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Not to mention that the whole "takeover" story missed two really big beat IMO...RJ and Donna. Both of them would have been caught in the middle and adding to the conflict. Yet, they weren't even mentioned.

The character of Ridge was always a bit unsufferable, but it's REALLT bad now. He just comes off as a total ass. Why woman, apparently, find him with his misogynistic so appealing is a mystery? I feel like Hope used to be better defined as the long-suffering good girl, but I don't know who the hell she is at this point. I've never been a big Steffy fan to be honest. Knowing all the things she's done in her past, she's far from sympathetic. RB is sooooooooooo NOT Taylor. She should have been a brand new character without the baggage of a character that she's at least 15 years too young to play. The worst for me is Brooke. She used to be the ultimate soap character, IMO. I was a huge fan. Girl from the wrong side of the tracks who made good but was her own worst enemy at times. The way she runs after Ridge BEGGING him to pay her attention is downright insulting to women in general.

Since the show had a definite end and wrap-up of stories, it would be fun to watch it all these years later.

I think it would have been fun to say that Hayley decorated it herself. Then, you could play the set design off as person who previously never had any money before this and has a tacky taste. Think the Jungle Room in Elvis' Graceland....lol

It really plays as if that would have been a better choice...to have Martin be the youngest child of Vernon and Anita. He's hardly had any interaction with Nicole and none with Ted. Then, Martin's kids would be Vernon and Anita's grandkids versus GREAT grandkids. But, that ship has sailed. They really need to have some scenes with Martin and his parents.

I feel like one thing we're missing is an in-depth scene between Haley and Naomi, since they used to be best friends...what a betrayal! I've always loved Cady, but it really seems that "character" was already there in Vanessa. I always wish she had been allowed to stay on as Jennifer on DAYS. IMO, she brought a freshness to that role. I'm pretty sure we've never seen Martin interact with his dad, Ted.

Tomas was VERY stiff, but I'm inclined to give the actor a tiny bit of a break. It was the first episode they really used him to any real capacity. Hopefully, he loosen up a bit as Martin seems to be....slowly...doing. Lord, Ashley and Derek...something has to change with that quick. It FF material for me. Still, overall, BTG, after just three weeks, is head and shoulders above all the other shows currently on. I really have grown to like Nicole. Dani can be a little grating, but I think she's truly losing her mind.

Didn't Bill...just in the last episode...tell Luna she needed to leave and be gone before he got back from a meeting??? Yet, she was still there...in a new outfit and just hanging out. WTH? A few weeks from now, no one when even talk about the lame "takeover." It'll be back to the same repetitive dialogue. Carter will be back to being Ridge's "best friend" and "just like family." That's been one of the shows issues for a VERY long time. There are no story repercussions. It's more like everything just resets right back to what it was before. I can't believe we had to see that damn stapler again.

I loved Thursday's episode, but I have to admit that this was the first episode of BTG that I felt a little...bored. I don't know if it's the writing, the acting, a combo, but for me, it feels like Ashley and Derek just suck all the energy out of scenes that they appear in. The characters are just so...bland. I still don't know why I should even care about these two people. Derek, especially. I mean, who is this guy, besides saving cats??? It almost feels like Derek and Ashley belong on some other show or a Hallmark G-rated rom-com with the perky perfect "Girl next door" heroine and the generically handsome white guy. They feel sort of shoehorned in to show "Hey, we got white people, too!" But, the characters are not developed or interesting...at all. I can't fathom why Derek is even fascinated by Ashley. I feel like what happened yesterday is what should have aired today if that makes sense. I'd also like to see Anita and Vernon dig more into their own relationship beyond their children and grandchildren.

I really, really wished CBS would have given BTG the timeslot right after Y&R to give it the best shot for its launch, and then moved B&B to air right after it. I really feel like B&B doesn't even try at this point. Everyone's dialogue just repeats...over and over and over. There's no nuance, no long-term impacts of any story, and the show has grown stale and old fashion. How can a show that takes place in the FASHION industry in LOS ANGELES not have a single gay or Latino character in 2025? Instead, we get boring characters like Elecktra (that name!) and Will to "lead" the young characters. Serial killers get pardoned. "Business stories" are a yawn. A horrible, horrible recast for Taylor (not the fault of RB), and a total misogynistic lead in Ridge. Brooke has been reduced to just begging Ridge for scraps. I feel like when I do check out some of the show it's just to hate watch it. BTG is a million times better!

THIS! What would have been good would have been if the Forresters threatened to call the police, and Bill said, "That's fine. But, then I'll need to tell them that Taylor shot me." And, we're supposed to believe that Bill got Luna a full pardon for TWO murders. If they had to get Luna out of jail, the best way would have been to somehow reveal that she wasn't the one who killed Tom and Hollis...only "thought" she did due to a mental break. A HUUUUUUGE stretch but would have made a tiny bit more sense.

I was surprised to see Robert Christopher Riley, who played Michael Culhane on Dynasty, pop up as a co-worker of Ted's who attended the gala. The way Nicole interacted with him for a moment seemed to imply there was more to come with him...maybe her love interest down the line???

I suspect the Joey/Doug casino story is going to somehow connect to a larger story on the show. Just a hunch.

The Dimeras are what ultimately turned me off the show and when I stopped watching on any regular basis. They started to take over everything, and so many of the characters were interchangeable...Stefan and EJ, for example. And, then Megan showed up, and Kristen has become a cartoon character. Chad was the only character in the family that was "human." I always liked his relationship with Theo, too, when they played that.

I suspect that Joey the casino dude has bigger plans for Doug the doctor once he gets him so far in debt, Doug will have to do anything he tells him to do...probably something medical related at the hospital if I had to guess. This was the first episode that I started to kinda feel Martin. The little bit of physical affection between him and Smitty was long overdue. I was pleasantly surprised at how good the actors playing their kids were. It's still hard to believe they have almost GROWN children. We really need a line, at least, that says something like...Remember, when we adopted them and they were only 11 and 12? It'd still be stretch, but it would help some at least. I could see Martin wanting to adopt only to create a "family image" that he wanted. Silk Press Sheila is sooooo good, but as others said, I hope they don't write her into a corner too fast. I love that gleam she gets in her eye! I would also like to know why NOW is the time she's plotting her revenge. Why did she wait so long? Ashley and Derek...oh, man. The most exciting thing about Derek is he had a ceiling fall on top of him. I'm still not sure what their purpose is on the canvas besides being "token whites." Smitty and Vanessa are connected to the core characters...and they actually have personality. So, they work in the context of the show. It's hard to know if it's really the actors, too, because in all fairness, they haven't been given that much to work with. But, every time they're on, I start to lose interest until we switch to other characters. Derek needs to turn psychotic, or we find out that Ashley is also working part-time as a hooker...something...ANYTHING.... to make them interesting!!

Chase raping Ciara on the Horton living room couch was such a HORRIBLE story twist. The character of Chase actually had potential, not to mention the story itself was so unnecessary and wrong on many, many levels.

Even though no one really dies on DAYS, killing Abigail was such a bad, depressing story. Billy Flynn had grown into arguably the best actor on the show. I really enjoyed Chad's relationship with Julie, too. Hopefully, he'll be well-used at Y&R.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought that Ted was seeing..or at least sleeping with...Leslie first. Then, he met Nicole at the medical conference and left Leslie for her. IF, a big IF, that's right, he didn't cheat on Nicole but had a short fling with Leslie before dating his wife. Leslie's pissed that Ted dropped her for Nicole, and she must have gotten pregnant around that time, too. Oh, Lord...Ashley and Derek. I didn't even understand why they were in the episode. Ashley has a little more spark than Derek, but still...the energy just dies when these two characters are together. They need some sort of an edge to make them interesting. I'm not surprised by Dani's reaction at the end. I get the feeling that Dani and Bill are that toxic couple that will NEVER truly be done with each other. They'll just torture each other over and over. If the show runs for years, I can see them actually getting back together at some point...and then breaking up again.

Martin comes off as perhaps the only reason his married Smitty...and adopted kids...is because it would give him a good public image. Smitty needs to tell Martin to shut the hell up. Wow...talk about selfish! I didn't see Chelsea's three-way coming! I wonder where THAT'S going to go! Ashley and Jacob continue to be snoozeville for me. Ashley is slightly better, but there just isn't anything to the Jacob character. Who is he outside of dating Ashley? If I was Dani, I'd be walking up in that country club with my hot new young man on my arm!

Agreed! And, also they need to give more younger characters with fresh, modern takes on storytelling a chance. I had Y&R on for a few minutes today, and it was Yawnsville compared to BTG. Just more and more and more talk about vague companies and who's going to control them. I swear that you could do a Y&R drinking game and have to take a shot anytime someone says CEO, COO, takeover, etc. Why do TPTB there think their viewers care about any of that? Sorry...I got sidetracked.

Good point about the age! Now, if he said he wanted to run in 4 years, that would be much more believable.

ITA. They could at least throw in a line saying that they adopted them when they were 11 and 12 years old, for example. Then, it would be much more believable. At least Smitty got to give Martin a quick kiss on the cheek. The lack of affection and tenderness between them has been striking compared to the other couples. If Martin's going to be running for president, he needs to work on being less wooden! LOL I LOVE Leslie. She is soooo messy, and I'm here for it. Jacob is SOOOO hot, and the actor has a nice ease to him that is missing in Martin. Ashley's growing on me, but they really need to have her in scenes with Naomi a lot more to tie her into things. Her boyfriend (Brian?) just falls flat. He still comes across as just generic handsome guy who we are just supposed to think is hot. How much is the actor, the writing, etc, I don't know, but if I had to pick the first character to fade into the background it would be him. He needs an edge...or something...to make him interesting.

Or....here's a crazy theory on my end. What if Ted is NOT TED, but his identical twin brother who has taken over Ted's like and the real Ted is dead? This could explain Ted not recognizing Leslie and why Ted needed an identical twin in the first place.

I know that they're still listed in the credits, but I wonder if Thomas and RJ really are still on contract at this point...sort of how Paris was listed for months with zero appearances.

Oh, I LOVED this side-eyed look from Anita, and how they all sat back down. OOOO...ITA. They should have brought in Ashely right when Laura was brought in for her accident. Ashley's first few episodes felt so out of place with the rest of things, and frankly, a bit boring. I wonder if some of including her was just them wanting to show some diversity in the cast. Her boyfriend...I can't remember his name...seems to just be generic handsome dude.