Everything posted by janea4old
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Racism and racial representation on soaps
On Y&R, he was Jack's physical therapist, played by Darnell Williams (Jesse AMC).
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Y&R to air classic episodes
Update: Julia was at the reception, but I don't know if she was at the wedding. (Reception was following episode).
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Y&R to air classic episodes
Tuesday June 16 Global (Wednesday June 17 CBS) #6164 First aired in US on Friday July 11, 1997. Malcolm and Olivia wed. Phyllis secretly rejoices in her efforts to fake the second paternity test on Daniel. soapcentral recap (Describes Phyllis plotting, and Tricia craving Ryan, but says very little about the wedding) http://soapcentral.com/yr/recaps/1997/970707.php#fri Looks like that soapcentral recap actually came from an old "rec.arts.tv.soap.cbs" post here: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs/uozG4TnxBrE/NN51AnRDQfIJ Detailed wedding description and attendees, discussed in this thread: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs/-ycSa98VXSw/6vcvKrBat4cJ ^ That link includes some notes on the wedding reception which is actually in the following episode. Casting notes: Shari Shattuck plays Ashley. Sandra Nelson plays Phyllis. Sarah Aldrich plays Victoria. Julia (Nate's nanny) is played by Pamella D'Pella Special guest star: Christopher St. John (Kristoff St. John's real-life father) plays the minister.
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Y&R to air classic episodes
It's the same as the original. "Tales from the Vienna Woods".
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Racism and racial representation on soaps
In the removed (edited out) scene of Miguel asking Esther to dance, she calls him "Chief".
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Racism and racial representation on soaps
Y&R's Mishael Morgan https://www.instagram.com/p/CA_Q1HQB5N1/
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Racism and racial representation on soaps
Regarding the scenes in the rebroadcast of the Y&R Masquerade Ball -- the deleted scenes of the *character* Miguel wearing a "costume" for the Masquerade Ball - as Native American. Instead of speculating about the actor's ethnicity, here is info from the actor himself: Anthony Peña (Miguel Rodriguez on Y&R)- Real name Antonio Peña. Stage name Anthony Pena or Anthony Peña. IMDB bio: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0671535/bio He mentions his ethnicity in a facebook post dated September 5, 2012: https://www.facebook.com/antonio.pena.54379/posts/341033609321115
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Y&R to air classic episodes
https://www.soapcentral.com/yr/recaps/2012/120213.php#tue Not interested in the Lane wedding itself, but I'm always glad to see Olivia. I like that this episode celebrates Delia's birthday. The show spent so much time over the years with Billy and Chloe being psychologically disturbed because of her death. I like the idea of an episode that features Delia alive and happy.
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Y&R to air classic episodes
I was looking at this again. Thurs June 11, 2020, #9557, December 30, 2010 Surprised they are airing *that* Adam. I hoped to never see that face again. That person on screen, plus pairings of Kevin/Chloe and Daniel/Abby? And the disasters known as Daisy and Jana. It's like they came up with a formula for something I would be guaranteed not to watch.
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Y&R to air classic episodes
I guess I will let go of my prior theories. I see now that all of these couples have "romantic moments" in these episodes -- some have big moments and some have small little moments. Mon June 8 (July 18, 1986) Ashley and Victor - the couple featured in this epi. Nikki and Matt - other couple. Tue June 9 (June 7, 2001) Sharon and Nick - the couple featured in this epi. Mac and Billy - other couple. Wed June 10 (May 16, 2005) Lauren and Michael - the couple featured in this epi. Mac and J.T. - other couple. (Lily and Daniel are a couple but they are scared he'll be imprisoned, so no romantic moments today). Thurs June 11 (Dec. 30, 2010) Chloe and Kevin - the couple featured in this epi. Abby and Daniel - other couple.
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Y&R to air classic episodes
---------- Monday June 8, 2020: #3396 from July 18, 1986 Victor sends a car for Ashley to bring her to meet him at the *private* dining room at the Colonnade Room. He is wearing a tuxedo and she is wearing a beautiful golden gown. He speaks very passionately to her and says she is the woman of his dreams, the only woman in the world for him. They have dinner and dance. She opens a present he gives her, and it's a model boat -- an exact model of a real yacht he is naming "Forever Ashley". He says he can't wait for his divorce so he can marry her. They pledge their love and nothing will ever separate them. [other things happen with other characters] ---------- Tuesday June 9, 2020: #7150 from June 7, 2001 Nick had convinced Sharon to ride horses with him on the ranch and they had arrived at a tent-like structure somewhere on the Newman ranch property. In this episode, they enter the tent and it is richly furnished, as if from a far-off land. She wonders where it came from and who put it on the ranch. Nick had prepared the whole thing. He has arranged for some exotic costumes to be there for them to change into. After they change clothes, they enjoy a gourmet feast. Sharon says it's like a fairy tale. She thanks Nick for preparing such a romantic evening. He says they had considered going on a second honeymoon; but since that didn't happen, he is offering this special evening. They profess their love for each other and kiss. Nick tells her that he has arranged for someone to take the horses home, and there is someone watching Cassie and Noah. Special transportation will arrive to take them home later when they are ready. They have the evening free to be together. Nick claps and musicians begin to play, and Nick and Sharon dance. [other things happen with other characters] ---------- Wednesday June 10, 2020: #8134 from May 16, 2005 Lauren puts on a gorgeous gown that Michael had given her. Michael is in a tuxedo. He is taking her to a mystery location: Michael had arranged for the Colonnade Room to be set up as a special casino just for them. They enjoy wonderful food and drink, and then dance a sensuous tango, staring into each other’s eyes, ending with a kiss. At the gaming table, the dealer flips two cards up which say "Marry Me!" Michael takes a huge diamond ring out of a box. Lauren is stunned. [other things happen with other characters, especially Cassie.] ---------- Thurs June 11, 2020: #9557 from December 30, 2010 Kevin is at Jimmy's bar with Alison whom he has dated a few times. Chloe is home in her pajamas. Chloe decides she wants to be more than just friends with Kevin. It is New Year's Eve, so Chloe dashes off to the bar to see Kevin. She arrives wearing pajamas, a sweater, and slippers. Kevin and Chloe admit their feelings to one another, and kiss outside the bar at midnight. [other things happen with other characters] ---------- If if you compare the romance scenes, the Thursday episode is so different. Mon, Tues, and Wed are couples who are deeply in love and committed. And their dates are epic with glamorous garb and totally planned out. Thursday is a couple just beginning and it's spontaneous, and she's wearing pajamas and slippers. I don't care so much about their attire. If this was Bo and Hope on DAYS and they reconnected after a long physical separation, it would be powerful and epic no matter what they were wearing. I just don't see Kevin and Chloe as an epic couple.
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Y&R to air classic episodes
Thurs June 11, 2020 The first episode of the week of June 8th is from 1986. Back then, Victoria was a little girl, and Nicholas hadn't been born yet.
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The Black Lives Matter Thread
This image has been circulating on twitter:
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The Black Lives Matter Thread
Why did CBS let the police use the CBS studios lot? Someone on that twitter thread said the police used the lot as a place to stage the transport of protesters?
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The Black Lives Matter Thread
yeah, in the replies to that ABC tweet, a lot of people chimed in about Gabrielle Union. EDIT: I quoted the wrong tweet. The references to Gabrielle Union were in replies to NBC's tweet.
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The Black Lives Matter Thread
Y&R rebroadcast Traci and Brad's second wedding on Monday June 1st. A classic episode from 1991. Beth Maitland (Traci) was supposed to live-tweet on Monday June 1st But she didn't because CBS told her not to as follows: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well that was good but then .... she tweeted this, which totally misses the real issue:
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The Black Lives Matter Thread
Statements from the networks and the soaps: Black Lives Matter statement tweet from CBS: ^ CBS tweeted this. ^ This was retweeted by the following Y&R and B&B twitter accounts: https://twitter.com/YandR_CBS https://twitter.com/YRInsider https://twitter.com/BandB_CBS The same image was posted to the official Y&R facebook account here: <YR FB post link> and to the official B&B facebook account here: <BB FB post link> -- -- Black Lives Matter statement tweet from ABC: ^ Retweeted by https://twitter.com/generalhospital The same image was posted to the official GH facebook account here: <GH FB post link> and to the official GH Instagram account here: <GH Instgram post link> -- Black Lives Matter statement tweet from NBC: Nothing from Days (no reposts or retweets of the NBC statement). Nothing from https://twitter.com/nbcdays Nothing from https://twitter.com/daysofourlives Nothing from https://www.instagram.com/nbcdays/ And nothing from the official Days facebook account. (Of course I realize that such press release statements don't make much difference to human beings being killed and maimed and arrested by cops).
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Y&R to air classic episodes
I'm not trying to pull this thread off-topic. But due to what is happing in real life, CBS tweeted a Black Lives Matter statement and then the Y&R twitter and facebook accounts retweeted/posted the CBS statement. And that is relevant to this thread because Beth Maitland was supposed to live tweet Traci's wedding yesterday and didn't because CBS told her not to because ... Beth explained via tweeting... I won't further this here, because I assume this belongs in the off-topic area and I will bring this discussion to the George Floyd thread there. Simply posting her tweet because CBS told her not to live-tweet the episode. Beth also tweeted a personal opinion and I'll post that on the George Floyd thread.
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Y&R to air classic episodes
The chemistry between Victor and ED's Ashley amazing in the 1986 episode. But I can't figure out if Victor seems so passionate because of the writing/words of his dialog, or if it's the acting ability of the German voice actor whose voice is dubbed in. (I suppose they could have asked EB to speak his native German in the dubbing, but I don't think that's his voice?)
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Y&R to air classic episodes
Thanks to @BoldRestless for posting that episode in German! Fascinating! Monday June 8, 2020: #3396 from July 18, 1986 IMDB summary: "After receiving the results of Nikki's tests, a frantic Casey tries unsuccessfully to reach her sister. Both Victor and Matt charm their respective lovers during a lush dinner. Andy tells Lauren and Paul that Farren went missing. Soon after Farren returns and announces she's ready to face her past. JoAnna encourages John to have a face-lift." Clarification: Casey tries to reach Victor about Nikki's tests. Casey isn't telling Nikki yet. The part "Both Victor and Matt charm their respective lovers during a lush dinner" is actually this: Matt takes Nikki on a date to the Colonnade Room. The auto-translate from German to English is a bit garbled but they both mention champagne a lot. I wonder what they are talking about? Victor is dressed in a tux and invites Ashley somewhere private (I think maybe at his home?) and Ashley (Eileen D) arrives in a lovely gown and he speaks very passionately to her when she arrives. They have a fancy dinner and then he gives Victor gives Ashley a boxed present - she opens it and finds a model of a fancy yacht inside and the boat is named "Forever Ashley". This is a model of the actual boat he is giving her as a for "Christmas". (Not sure of the auto-translation. Did he say early Christmas present now, or did he say it's being commissioned and will be ready by Christmas? ) He says he has never loved anyone in this way. They pledge undying love. He can't wait for his divorce to be final. Nothing could ever break us apart, etc. FYI, I think that IMDB summary had an error? From the auto-translation, it seemed like Casey was trying to call Victor, not Nikki. Casey finally reaches him at the end of the episode. Casey tells Victor to meet her tomorrow at her office and don't tell Nikki. (Casey wants to tell Victor about Nikki's test results, and she doesn't want Nikki to learn the test results yet). ------------------------- Tuesday June 9, 2020: #7150 from June 7, 2001 soapcentral recap: https://www.soapcentral.com/yr/recaps/2001/010604.php#thu Another episode recap, which includes details of Nick and Sharon's date: http://tvmegasite.net/updates/yr/2001/yr060601.htm Nick surprises Sharon with a lavish date in an Arabian-style tent structure on the Newman property. Billy and Mac are a couple. Jill is annoyed that Jack had helped them reconcile. Jill is annoyed that Brittany failed to keep Billy and Mac apart. Mamie secretly brings little Nate for a visit with Malcolm, without Olivia's knowledge. After that, Malcolm and Olivia meet and discuss their upcoming divorce and Nate's upcoming family softball game. Malcolm is in a relationship with Alex Perez. Neil is interested in Alex but tries to not show it. Malcolm asks Neil for relationship advice. Later, Alex and Olivia cross paths and argue about Malcolm wanting custody of Nate. Paul tells Isabella she will need to move out. Christine phones her husband Paul from Hong Kong, and Isabella answers the phone. Michael phones Christine and tells her of a job opportunity in Australia, and she is interested. ----------- Wednesday June 10, 2020: #8134 from May 16, 2005 Soapcentral recap is a brief summary: https://www.soapcentral.com/yr/recaps/2005/050516.php#mon Detailed recap here: http://tvmegasite.net/updates/yr/2005/yr-05-13-05.shtml Lauren puts on a gorgeous gown that Michael had given her. Michael treats her to a fabulous night of dancing and gambling at a casino, and asks her to marry him. J.T. and Katherine arrange a ruse to get Mac to go to the loft apartment. J.T. surprises Mac with a margarita and tacos party for just the two of them in the loft. Daniel meets with Lily and tells her he plans to go on the run. In the hospital, Cassie remembers that she was driving, and pulls out her IV and sneaks out of the hospital to try to find Daniel. --------------------- What is the theme of the week? Trying to figure out what these three episodes have in common. Lavish dates?
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Y&R to air classic episodes
I was watching your playlist last night - the whole November 1981 Dina arc was great. And yeah Traci was the one with the most resentment against Dina. So different from 2018-2019 Abbotts dynamic with Dina. - another thought ... They really should show Nov 25, 1991. Such an amazing episode. It really shows Dina. So much happens in one episode, it's like a movie. And you can figure out what's going on even if you didn't know the backstory, because there's just enough explanation in the writing. The episode encapsules everything Dina's done to the Abbott family. ------------------------------------------------------ re: Monday June 8 #3396. July 18, 1986. Would you message me the link to the German episode, if you can, please?
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Y&R to air classic episodes
re: Monday June 8 #3396, July 18, 1986 I do want to see Susan Seaforth Hayes. I've only seen her on Days, I don't remember if I ever saw her on Y&R
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Y&R to air classic episodes
Monday June 8 #3396 IMDB says that 3396 is July 18, 1986 After receiving the results of Nikki's tests, a frantic Casey tries unsuccessfully to reach her sister. Both Victor and Matt charm their respective lovers during a lush dinner. Andy tells Lauren and Paul that Farren went missing. Soon after Farren returns and announces she's ready to face her past. JoAnna encourages John to have a face-lift. This seems like an odd one. The ones before and after this are Rose DeVille convincing Nina to sign over the baby she's expecting (Ronan). That would be more significant. Maybe 3396 is assigned to the wrong date?
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Y&R to air classic episodes
https://www.cbs.com/recommended/news/1009841/familial-feuds-and-bitter-business-battles-take-over-theme-weeks-on-cbs-daytime-dramas/ Wow that CBS press release has Tracy/Brad wedding January 11, 1991. That's way off, We know it's Nov 7, 1991. Any recent date errors they made in their classics/repeats press releases over past two months - were because they used a taping date instead of the airdate, or they were simply off by a day or two. How did they manage to be off by 10 months for this one?