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Snatch your kid's phone, because this ain't helping Missy Reeves.

Why is she who shall not be named not allowed? Did she post here in the past?

Oh this is getting messy

That looks like it hurt too. I know he was thinking "we're supposed to be acting."

Facts! We stan an eccentric queen that changes her hair up every episode even tho half those styles aren't it sis.

That photo has got to be edited. She did not show up to a red carpet with that hair.

Surely not, but I'm sure it didn't cross their mind to have racially diverse dolls since the show lacks so much in diversity. Similarly, I think the lack of diversity comes from the top and stems from an irrational fear of scaring off the last remaining viewers. As if having black characters front and center is going to drive away white viewers.

I'm guessing they only got white dolls. No Black characters will be having sex on BB or that theory about Steffy being with a black man again is out (maybe she'll hook up with a woman) since they're only getting two blow up dolls from what I understood from a previous post and they'll be switching out their wigs depending on the character they represent.

🤣 I'm actually scared to ask. I know forums can get crazy.

[!@#$%^&*] confirmed two of the actresses, but I'm curious who's the third. It's a bit disappointing but [!@#$%^&*] said that they mended fences and are cool now. I would like to have more details . Edit: Not sure why that name is coming out like that, but ok

Haha! I just realized I was misunderstanding CT as Connecticut not Central Time I was wondering why only Connecticut was a day behind :)) It would seem obvious to offer another feed for the time zone, but either way these daytime irregularities are interesting to me.

Thanks. Is it known why AMC was a day behind in CT? I wasn't aware how crazy affiliate programming can get especially for daytime until I started watching soaps and got on these boards. I'm in the NYC area so all my stations are O&O. When I started watching soaps on my own in 2003, aside from GL being on at 10am (which actually most CBS O&Os already made the move anyway by this time) all other soaps were scheduled at their 'usual' timeslot. I even remember PC being on at 12:30 after the news and it wasn't until it was at the very end that it was moved to the late night timeslot. Even before I started watching on my own, I remember SB and AW and PAS always being on at their regular time in the 90s. I think the first time I was really thrown off was when I stopped watching soaps for a while and one day when I was home from work I decide to check in on Days at 1pm and something else was on. I thought it had been cancelled and I didn't know about it since it had been quite sometime since I even watched or followed any news regarding soaps. I quickly checked online and found out that it had moved to noon which was so weird at the time as I always remember it on at 1pm. Similarly, GH was on at 2pm on ABC which was also odd, but it's since returned to 3pm. @soapfan770 Interesting seeing ATWT at 10am and YR at 3pm. CBS did quiet a bit of shuffling

Was the ABC trifecta AMC, OLTL, and GH the most respected soaps by affiliates as far as scheduling and timeslot. I feel like you don't really hear about many affiliates having aired those three out of pattern or if they did not at an unusual or unreasonable timeslot like some of the other soaps.

It looked like ratings were pretty strong in early 1999, I'm not sure whether the story was popular with fans but it did have a positive impact in ratings. The highest numbers for GL for the 98/99 season all happened around that time (Jan-Mar 1999). In fact the last time GL scored a 4.3 or higher was in 97 during the Annie story and one more time in November 97 and those were rare. That 4.6 is impressive for GL for 97.

Thank you for that info. Those were some underwhelming ratings for Jeva weddings then. Meanwhile, Danny and Michelle's 1999 Wedding scored a 4.2, GL's second highest rating that year, and highest overall ranking that year- coming in 5th in HH for the week. However, GL was performing much better in the earlier part of the year as I mentioned before. Nonetheless, it says something about the couple that it was able to rank 5th overall.

Did any of the Jeva weddings boost GL's ratings? The question came to mind when I looked at my avatar and recalled a thread about soap ratings in the 80s and how supercouple weddings were a big pull (the supposed big ratings for Steve and Betsy's wedding on ATWT which may in fact not have been that big and Patch and Kayla's wedding on Days). I'm not some Jeva stan even though I have them on my avatar, I actually just really like the photo and the colors. I think Josh and Reva as characters and actors are great but I wonder if they had any real influence as a supercouple. This is what I found: 1989 Wedding Ratings (This is the only wedding I didn't find ratings for the week of the wedding, but I did find ratings for the week before and after. Wikipedia shows GL ranking 7th overall for the 1988/89 season. The week before and after the wedding, GL also ranked 7th. One thing I noticed for Patch and Kayla's wedding was that the ratings for Days climbed leading up to the wedding and peaked for the week of.) 1999 Wedding Ratings (According to Wiki, GL averaged a 3.5 for the 98/99 season. To put it into perspective, GL had a rating between 3.9 and 4.3 from January to mid-March in 1999 with only two weeks below a 4.0. It then remained mostly in the mid-high 3's. The two weeks leading up to the wedding GL scored a 3.6 and the two weeks after scored a 3.5 and 3.8. It also scored a 4.0 the week in June where Max learns Drew isn't his sister.) 2002 Wedding Ratings (According to Wikipedia, GL averaged a 3.0 for the 2001/2002 season. In early 2002, GL was scoring above or at a 3.0 until NCAA preemptions in early March brought it below a 3.0 (for the first time I believe) it rebounded to a 3.0 for two weeks after but then spent the rest of the season in the mid and high 2's. Not even the wedding helped.)

I agree about your sentiments regarding Contessa @Taoboi. I feel that Contessa seems like an afterthought on M2M ATL but her friendships with the LA ladies seems more genuine and actually highlight her presence.

Omg! This is some pippin hot tea that I've been served. I am really surprised or not but wow

What was the original air date for today's repeat?

Wow! I had no idea all this was going on behind the scenes. Was there a gap between being with Beth and then being with Mandy? Was it known that they were seeing each other?

I still haven't listened to the podcast but I plan on it. I think at times it was easy to be appeased and think well there's a black character or there's a black family, but it wasn't enough. I hate to say but look at primetime it's just as guilty and I hate to use it as an excuse, but primetime well into the 90s and 2000 still cast shows with all white main casts like Friends, SATC, Will and Grace which took place in the most diverse city in the world. Soaps are built around core families and to think that there hasn't been a long lasting black family that has been fleshed out, extended and prominent for decades like a white family is disappointing. I love soaps, I think it's such a fascinating genre and an incredible form of storytelling. I do not hold any hope for remediation in the treatment of black characters/families and that's because I don't hold out much hope for the genre itself anymore. Well into the 2000s, 2006/7 maybe, I think there was still a faint possibility that the genre could have been saved and I use saved very lightly, but when little was being done besides restricting budgets, cutting casts, and doing the minimum to just get by and make a profit the end was inevitable. There's way too much competition now, more than ever and the soaps are incredibly poor in quality and writing. I have tried to watch all 4 since the shut down and its excruciating. I think there have been some incredible black actors and black characters on soaps but all were handled poorly if we are being honest. I do see some great young black actors today like Sal and Lamon on Days and I think part of that comes from knowing that as a black actor (like in many other realms) you need to work so much harder. They honestly give it their all with the horrendous writing on that show. Not discounting some wonderful vets on Days and young actors too, but watching some of their scenes last week has probably been the most interesting part, I hate to think that talent will be wasted. I think in retrospect it's easy to see how wrong things have been. Things that were forgiven or maybe we didn't think were a big deal, now we see from a different perspective and realize how unfair or wrong those things were or maybe accepting crumbs just is no longer acceptable.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/general-hospital-former-star-vinessa-antoine-gets-candid-about-shows-lack-of-diversity.html/ The actress gets candid on the soap opera’s diversity Diggstown is the first time that a black woman has headlined a Canadian drama series. On the lack of diversity on General Hospital and the genre as a whole, the actress was candid in letting her thoughts be known. She explained, “Personally, from my experience and seeing how things are done, I think that there is one particular soap, The Young and the Restless, that based on their track record, has been able to put those storylines in the forefront. The era in the 1990s with the late great Kristoff St. John (Neil) and Victoria Rowell (Dru). That was a very beautiful and interesting time. I haven’t’ seen it repeat itself. I do feel that if there’s one soap that could do it [again], it would be Y&R.”

Thanks for the information. If you look at it from the number of affiliates airing GL in the wrong timeslot, it may not seem like a big deal because there are 100s of affiliates. If you look at it by market and affiliate reach then it's more clear why the timeslot change may have played a role in ratings. The top 10 US markets make up a little over 30% of TV homes. That's roughly 1 in 3 TV viewers. 8 out of 10 of those Top US Markets aired GL at 9 or 10am (exception being D.C. area and Houston). If you include Miami, Orlando and Detroit from your list, all which are in the Top 20 markets (two in the top 15), and add them to the 8 - that's already over one-third of US homes getting GL at a rather unusual timeslot of 9 or 10am. That means that just from those 11 stations, 33% of TV homes in the US have GL on at 9 or 10am. This doesn't include other stations that aired GL in the morning as I didn't count all of them or the fact that Sacramento (a top 20 market) didn't have GL on at all. Also, from your list Pittsburgh and Portland (Top 30 markets) and off the top of my head Baltimore (Top 30) have GL in the morning. I wouldn't be surprised if 50% of TV homes or more had GL at 9 or 10am or in the case of Sacramento not at all. I'm by no means stating that GL would be a ratings success if the affiliates all had it at the 2/3pm timeslot, but when it's on at an unfavorable 9 or 10am timeslot in at least 40% of TV homes. It's going to have a significant impact on the ratings. That 500k margin from 8th to 3rd place is difficult to bridge when your timeslot is hurting rather than helping you. Also, it's harder to reach a younger demo at 9/10 for a soap opera. I'm many of those markets GL didn't have a lead in or lead in for any other CBS soap, which is always helpful especially when viewers would watch an entire lineup or get curious to what was happening on other soaps from promos or general curiosity. Despite all of this and what many have said about GL's ratings, I thought GL performed solidly in the early 2000s.

That's something I always wondered about. Why did affiliates mess around with GL's timeslot so much. I know as early as 1992 some affiliates had dropped GL or already made the move to an early morning timeslot. In fact, most major markets had GL on in the morning instead of its intended 3pm slot. However. GL's ratings were pretty good in the early 90s and the demos were on par with ATWT and BB (It would beat both several weeks in demos in 94). I know CBS had a pretty full lineup with 4 soaps taking up a large block of affiliate programming at very competitive timeselots. In the NYC area GH was the lead in for Oprah on ABC, which may have hurt GL in this market. GH is still the most popular soap in the NYC area and I think largely in part of it's timeslot and years of being lead in for Oprah. Around 2005-early 2007 GL would on average have less than a 500k difference in total viewers than GH which would often rank third overall. Some weeks there was less than a 200k difference when GH would have drops. Yet, by this time GL was already on at 9 or 10am in most of the major markets. The only thing I can assume is demos. GL's total viewers throughout the 90s and early 2000s were pretty consistent with the competition (exception being YR and BB), but it was never that far off the soaps that ranked 3-7. However, the demos for GL weren't the best. I did see that it would beat out ATWT and BB in the early 90s in 18-49 some weeks, but by the 2000s, the demos just weren't there. Again, not sure if it had to do with timeslot changes or other factors.