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Well, their next game does have Zach Tinker so there's that!

Curiously, the last frame is a 2022 Zoom call between Kyle, Laura Dern and Lynch. Rumors are always swirling about TP but my assumption was anything substantive that could happen was delayed by the pandemic. There are new and fairly serious rumors that Lynch is debuting a secret film he's made during COVID at Cannes (which may have nothing to do with Twin Peaks). We'll see what occurs in future. @DRW50 From last year, though it may mean nothing of course:

Those look like video game models from Until Dawn.

Kathryn Hays was an incredibly beautiful woman with not only timeless grace, but a blunt candor and authenticity to her work and persona that you couldn't fake. We loved her for a lot of reasons. But to me the enduring mystery is something older. The aura and heart in her work obviously fascinated Irna Phillips, who created the enigma of Kim Sullivan we now constantly struggle to decipher today, given the lack of classic episodes available to us during her inception. Kim was Irna's doppleganger/fantasy self, the unwed woman or mother, a woman who had affairs, was fallen yet still the heroine, something which usually seemed unthinkable for Phillips' seemingly moralistic view of many of her characters. To her, Kim was the 'lady in the mirror.' That's the story I am still eager to know more of. Hays' class, warmth and loving strength onscreen was immortal and I'm glad we got to see her again on the Locher Room before it was too late. I thought she had a lot more years. I guess what she had was just enough. Knowing her, she'd never want us to complain. RIP.

Trina was framed while SM was in the role. And Spencer has been doing dumb shít for Esme for months.

Incredibly sad.

Oh, dammit. She had so much grace and class, but also incredible grit onscreen. I'll try to reserve my longer comments for when this inevitably becomes a bigger discussion either in this thread or another one. I'm so glad we got to see her on those Zoom interviews. You know time is going to keep taking these people a lot of us grew up with from us, but it never gets easier.

Not exactly unclear who she's talking about.

Tonya Pinkins talks extensively about AMC and her career here at SOC.

I didn't see this up, so: Tonya Pinkins talks to SOC. She also talks at length about AMC.

She said something along those lines, according to Wikipedia.

She deliberately went into semi-retirement until Falcon Crest in the early '60s.

Well, one, that doesn't really make sense because she's been on about two weeks. It was plotted well before Mikayla left the screen. And two, frankly I think the recast was very strong in that scene and IMO at least as strong if not moreso than SM.

Ron has been doing the offscreen conversation stuff since late in his OLTL days, when he and Frank Valentini were cutting a lot of narrative and scheduling corners with performers seemingly to keep the budget on track re: guarantees, etc. It's gotten far worse at every show since. DF and MM have chemistry. So did MM and JKJ. What else is new? It doesn't change the fact that she's always been mediocre at best in a role that has no personality there to speak of, and aged up even more for their daughter. She's been around almost twenty years and I'd still dump Belle in favor of Carrie and Christie Clark anyday. Beyond the heat with certain actors there's no character to Belle.

Me either. Wise words from Mr. T:

I do remember her appearing in Dr. Quinn in the '90s, which my mother watched religiously, in part due to Joe Lando lol. (This was a year or so before I started really watching OLTL and the ABC soaps, though my babysitter had watched it, Marland's ATWT and Y&R religiously) I looked that up again on YT just now - she was amazing. It's a pity she chose to retire, but I guess her health made that a priority.

Jane Wyman will always have my admiration for her amazing work in Douglas Sirk's films. What little I've seen of her on FC is quite formidable in a different way too.

I'm all for them adding an AAPL contract player, finally. He's very hot. I am not for him being used to push Trina off into the ethnic sidekick role for good and get her away from a hot lead Frank would prefer be with a white girl. Playing a spoiler is fine, but I've seen that other kind of game before and we all have. So we'll see what plays out.

People love to blame this on Obama, but it's been an issue far longer than him. And Obama, though he did make some mistakes, had the right idea on Fox - to freeze them out completely. But Jake Tapper and most of the regular media cried foul and Obama had to walk it back. They should've stuck to it and it should be done again, because Fox is ten times worse today (and it was awful then).

Oh, Ron. How many exorcisms is this now in the span of 6 months? I can't believe they botched a reprise of this so badly, even for DAYS.

They're clearly feeling the heat. Good.

I think there's a lot of pushback. But I think there's just also a lot of profound exhaustion on everyone's part - understandably - as well as profound institutional inertia. A number of Democratic politicians - not the bulk of the party, but certain folks - wanted to believe 'it can't happen here' to any number of things that have, in fact, happened, and just want to roll things back to the easier long-bygone times of relative bipartisan comity in Washington, where both parties come to the table, negotiate fairly and each side resumes their cliched roles of social conscience and 'principled fiscal conservative.' Except there are no more principled conservatives, and being social consciences is no longer enough. I don't think this inertia is Biden's fault, though I do think his rhetoric and action could always stand to be stronger in some areas, like most presidents over the years. He wants to do a lot more, but he's stymied by some people who are either truly corrupt (Sinemanchin, the GOP) or a handful of others who simply do not grasp or do not want to grasp the existential crisis we are now in. They want to go back to 'normal' as described above, and that means moving as little as possible outside the norms of what we are used to expecting from regular order in American government in terms of shaking things up or making bigger moves. But there is no going back. We have to do better, not just on action but on messaging, something a lot of Democrats are often inept at or approaching from a perpetual post-Reagan defensive crouch towards the media and 'fiscally responsible' GOP. And we have very little time in which to do better on these things before the hole gets deeper and tougher to climb out of. I don't think things are as apocalyptic as they are sometimes made out to be. But they are very urgent, and very serious. Certain things are cyclical in politics, like always, and will continue to keep cycling back and forth. But for other things the cycle might change, or stop. I think it's okay to take breaks as informed citizenry from following the cycle every second of the day. I keep a close eye on things, but I take mental health breaks for myself, for the trauma of the last few years, for my family's illnesses and my own struggles. If I tried to keep following everything Joe Manchin said or did everyday based on what he watched on Fox News last night, I'd lose my mind. I stay engaged, but I catch my breath and step away from time to time. I keep putting one foot in front of the other and that's all those of us on the outside can do, aside from helping, contributing or campaigning in our own ways.

I know! It's ridiculous and played by a well known TV host. It's like if John Tesh or Arsenio were Sonny's body man back in the '90s.