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12-8

Well due to the CBS player being at it again which means I'm having to jumped episodes rme, I'm actually pretty caught up. More or less. lol.

Well looky looky!!! Newmans FINALLY got interesting. This Claire storyline suuure has brought some interesting developments now that we are dealing with fallout or Act 2 (Act 1 being the intro/reveal which was surprisingly well paced). Cole is back! Nikki is off the wagon! Jordan (oooh I'm loving me sum CZ) is on the loose! Claire could be dead baby Eve! Victor having an adversary that ain't taking his lip. Now I'm wondering if Nick being hurt and trying to hide it will turn into a new storyline a la hooked on drugs. Who knew this would get this interesting since I was saying a few weeks back where the Abbotts were since they were more interesting.

Speaking of the Abbotts...due to the missed episodes...I'm a little confused. Is Kyle still working with Tucker and Audra? Definitely feels like Kyle vs Billy is still on. And now Jill (welcome back in the flesh) wants Billy over at Chancellor-Winters?

Speaking of the Winters, so much going on. All the storyline leading up to Nate's potential return to Chancellor-Winters. Those were some good scenes leading into Devon/Nate reconciliation. It was also good to see Devon/Victor scenes because I always forget their history. Meanwhile, ooooooo at VB's side-eye when she saw Lily had keys to Daniel's place. It might be moving slow for me, but I'm loving that Lily/Daniel/Heather storyline. And now...Lily is off screen because Mamie is in danger. Uh oh.

Another triangle I'm liking...Christine/Danny/GigglyHeffa. If looks could kill, Christine would have been dead that episode when Phyllis walked into Crimson Lights and saw the Danny/Chris kiss. And I thought it was adorable to see Danny make dinner for Christine. And dance with her. It just takes me back and I just swoon.

At this point...does everyone BUT Chance know about Summer's feelings for him? 

On 12/7/2023 at 3:55 AM, DramatistDreamer said:

An office, a cubicle, a chair, whatever.
The crux of my argument is that they really don’t need a hospital set to keep Nate connected to the medical field, a little imagination could keep him connected to the profession he devoted so much time, effort, money and intellectual focus to something that requires such a specialized set of skills. It’s weird the way that he has been shifted out of medicine and health care and for what? Some vague marketing job? Going hat in hand to the same pseudo corporations begging for an opportunity? Man, they really did sever him from any attributes of his dad and especially his mom, didn’t they?

Haha, that was my donation. An actual fully fledged storyline would be a totally different matter. There is a character from Frasier, an insurance claims adjuster who takes a fall in his apartment and when they take her to the hospital and the doctor starts to say something like “Oh-oh” or something like that, the insurance claims adjuster jumps all over him and says something like “What?! Did you do something wrong? Because I will sue blue, buddy boy!” Fraser’s totally taken aback by this ruthless display. That’s the thing that jumped into my head, lol. 

Hehe...every time I see Lily/Daniel/Heather, I think of you because it slowly seems to be going down the way you suggested.

And the side-eye VB gave last week when she saw Lily had a key to Daniel's place...lol. 

On 12/9/2023 at 5:48 PM, janea4old said:

Per @JAS0N47 
https://www.jason47.com/days/staffdatabase.html

When Ron Carlivati came on as headwriter, 
the show brought in story consultants to work with him.

Ron became headwriter 
with episodes of airdates beginning July 19, 2017.

Sheri Anderson and Ryan Quan both credited as
story consultants for airdates beginning July 19, 2017.

Sheri Anderson served as story consultant,
credited for airdates July 19, 2017 - January 7, 2019.

Ryan Quan began serving as story consutant,
credited for airdates July 19, 2017 through the present - he's still there.

Ron and Ryan are still credited for what is airing this week, but that will change later in December when the strike episodes begin airing.

Thank you for this. I was literally wondering last week when RC started headwriting at DAYS. Wow.

12-8

Look at Finn!!! He must be trying to figure out a way to save Eric. I might have missed some episodes since this CBS player is at it again.

Well Friday cliffhanger indeed!!! I liked that Eric figured out that everyone knew. I liked the beat played of Donna overhearing Ridge, Brooke, and RJ talking about Ridge winning. I will always like seeing Bridget. And even Thorne. Even if it was a throwaway line, at least we know where Felicia, Kristen, and Rick are.

That said...my kingdom for a B plot.

On 12/1/2023 at 9:45 AM, Gray Bunny said:

Love the rundown. I had to laugh at the "CLOCK IN, GIRL!!! That house ain't going to pay for itself." comment. Well done. 

I definitely agree about the divide in this group, and how it can only go on for so long before people start getting cut from the show or the show itself gets too dark to be enjoyable (see: last season's RHONJ). 

I think La Dame and Gizelle both see the bigger picture here in that the show could unravel (and people could get fired) and they need to mend fences and play nice with one another. For instance, after Season 5, you could've written off any type of friendship between Karen and Gizelle, yet they're back to laughing it up and throwing innocent digs instead of deep cuts. Clearly, Gizelle made a mess for herself with the Candiace/Chris debacle which I don't see Candiace forgiving anytime soon. And I'll watch and wait to see if Gizelle conjures up any maturity in regards to playing nice with Wendy, since Wendy is still the target person to get iced off the show out of the group. 

I'm not impressed with the new girl either or what she's stirring up with Wendy's family, whether Wendy already knew about it or not. 

Well, Ashley does have bills. Now. *sips tea*  

When you say it like that about La Dame and Gizelle seeing the bigger picture...which I also feel they do...that makes me look at that confrontation scenes with Roommate a bit differently. Perhaps that was why Gizelle stayed mostly silent. Another layer. Again, as her BFF Gizelle has said and done (that intervention in the first episode) to get her BFF to see things a little clearer, but ditzy. La Dame does not have to handle her with kid gloves and mad respect that she still did, but La Dame was clear tough loving. So Gizelle let La Dame do what she has been trying to do as well.

Now Candiace. Ooooo...that is going to be a hard one as proven by Candiace's line last week about her black A$$ still there. I hollered. 

For now...I feel the truth about NeckHo and Wendy is somewhere in the middle I am afraid.

RHOP

Well I've been enjoying the season throughout so far. However, this episode did feel like typical (good) RHOP episode. It was well structured. The girls were bouncing off each other perfectly. There was fun shade. And there was also a concentrated effort to keep it moving without things getting toxic. And even when the clearly divided group separated to do their own thing...it was still light. The only thing that I disliked honestly was that Production...per usual...are false advertising again. We still haven't gotten to the girls out at the gay club where Wendy showed out. Nor have we gotten to Candiace vs Ashley yet either...both of which were shown two episodes ago. 

The main thing I've loved and have continued to love is the Dragging of Robyn Juan's Roommate. She has had it coming. And when she was brought back, I fully expected it to happen. And it has happened to her every episode so far. But this week it was really and truly IN FRONT OF THE GROUP. And it needed to be done. FINALLY. What was sad was the level of her delusion even as she was spilling tea that anyone can see clearly that Juan is still cheating on her. The only odd note I had with it was the fact that Gizelle has really and truly been trying to get through to her since the season started...actually being a real friend. But this episode as La Dame and Candiace came for the Roommate (and Wendy's reaction gave what we were ALL thinking), Gizelle was...silent. I could see it, but perhaps there was a way they all could have bridge the gap. I mean...when the Roommate finally broke down at the end of the episode...it was CANDIACE AND WENDY that were comforting her. CANDIACE AND WENDY??? People she had hurt and not cared about?

Wendy vs NeckHo was kept to the beginning of the episode really and that was it. Nice and brief. I am of the opinion that NeckHo was thirsty to get on the show and DID use her sister's friendship to Wendy's sister and thus connection to Wendy to get on the show. However, Wendy did probably know of NeckHo by her sister's connection to NeckHo's sister. It is reminiscent of La Dame/Wendy petty feud in Season 5 ironically. Hopefully, it takes a good turn.

Speaking of La Dame, she continues to be the best part of this season so far. Trying her best to bridge the gap between the divided group. And some of that won't happen without people confronting their issues...something that Candiace said best last week. Her black A## ain't going nowhere no matter how Gizelle ignores her. She will have to film as will Candiace. Time to deal...or leave. And also...La Dame brings the funny.

LA DAME. Definitely another great year for her. And this week, she stuck it to Robyn Juan's Roommate. And it was about time. For years, that Roommate has been in everyone's business. And last season, she might not have been on Gizelle's side against Candiace, but she did not stop her either...and kept her mess hidden behind a paywall rather than on the show. Time for accountability and I still felt La Dame still gave her more grace until Candiace and Wendy. Then again, perhaps that is why Gizelle was silent than the confrontation...and speaks to the history of the cast members. Gizelle has been trying to get through to Roommate, but can only go so far due to their close friendship. La Dame DOESN'T have that problem and can go places that Gizelle cannot in talking to Roommate.

GIZELLE. Curiously quiet outside of the group scene when her, NeckHo, Roommate, and Ashley were shopping for outfits for the Cowboy dinner. Part of me were thinking she was playing softball with Roommate, but I truly felt she was letting La Dame say what she herself wanted to say herself. Because so far this season...outside of avoiding Candiace and showing her 'relationship' but Bubble Butt Guy...all Gizelle has really done is trying to get her BFF to see her husband is trash.

ASHLEY. I think I am over TikTok Ash...especially since Monica on SLC does it better.  And she was doing so well so far with the return of pot-stirring ways. But since there were more mentions of Michael Darby vs Candiace in court, I'm sure we are about to get more from her. 

CANDIACE. If I'm not mistaken, her and Roommate are feuding in rl. And given Roommate has been trash-talking Candiace the last few episodes, it was funny that when confronted Roommate was weak sauce. I found Candiace explained herself clearly and most importantly TO THE ROOMMATE'S FACE. I loved Production provided the reciept, too. So it appeared Roommate wants an issue to deflect. So I hope at some point Candiace gots RAT-A-TAT-TAT. LOL. And even with all of that, Candiace STILL tried to comfort her as she broke down over everyone confronting her about Juan.

WENDY. Was giving reactions for days. I liked she was able to explain herself and how she was feeling when the groups separated. Most people would have gotten into it with Messy Mia for making that crow joke, but she explained. That said...Wendy was trying to use a lot of words to explain her non-connection to NeckHo. My only sore point with her this week. 

MIA. Messy. lol. But...I liked her scene with La Dame, Candiace, and Wendy aka the Dream Team. I wish she would clean up her air...juuuuust a little bit. They have potential to be a ki-ki. 

NECKHO. Still don't like her, but I'm giving grace. For now.

ROBYN. JUAN'S ROOMMATE.

As Ms. Porsha Williams would say...YOUR A$$ IS IN THE HOT SEAT, BITCA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I said I would live for them dragging her this season. And so far, this season, I've enjoyed EVERY second of it. I feel no remorse for her. NONE. Yes, she broke down at the end, but that was her OWN making. Stop with the deflection and do some inner work. Cuz the signs Juan don't want you are there. She even dropped that tea when she told ALL the ladies that Juan constantly deletes his phone messages daily so she doesn't see them. WELL, ROOMMATE...WHY? Hmmmm.

But...a good episode for me after a long day at work...

RHOM

Well...some tea dropped today.

It seems Ana (from Season 2) is going to be showing up. And it appears she gets into it with Alexia and Marysol.

SLC

Did I mention I'm caught up? lol.

But yeah, I made it through the last two episodes of SLC. And after a bit of a dip, it's been real interesting as the girls head off on their cast trip. 

For the first time since Season 1 (almost) I felt Little Girl was being herself and authentic and not just a bootleg version of RHOP Ashley Darby. Some things can't be faked. And the death of a loved one really will hit you. And that was just what happened to her. Try as she might to keep it all together, Little Girl did lash out. At Lisa. At an event that perhaps she shouldn't have gone to. But I can relate to having to keep your mind busy when you are dealing with the loss of a loved one. I can also relate to the moment when you just lash out. And she did that with Lisa. I could also relate to Lisa's confusion on how to deal with Little Girl since she apparently had no point of reference. So that was an even argument. Sadly, as Lisa likes to do...she lost it and had a trautrum. Le sigh...she continues to lose me as a fan sadly. Not helped by how she was on the cast trip so far. Which brings me to...

...THE CAST TRIP!!! And that was MORE like it. They were beautiful scenic moments. There was hilariously HW moments. And of course, there was drama courtesy of Heather showing her slip (c) Mariah Huq. Since the start of this show, Heather has always been about wanting to be Lisa's BFF and in with the In-Crowd. And so much so, it was part of the reason Bad Weather fell apart. Her and Little Girl treat Lisa like she's some kind of toy or Queen. So Heather is always one-upping anyone who is in her way of Lisa...and Little Girl easily can get into Lisa's good grace more so than her cousin. So the table (pun unintended) was set for mess. And honestly, Hades must have frozen over cuz I was Team Little Girl. And her telling Heather to STFU was a thing of beauty. It also got Heather to drop her mask and show what smart people here have pointed out since the Season 1 reunion...she's just a more subtle version of Jen. And when caught...she rages just like her. A spade IS a spade. 

I was with Monica and Angie K/Meredith...who had a funny moment watching the fight and bonding over the fact it was NOT them. Add on to Meredith's Tub Drama that was clearly manipulated by Production and Part 1 of the trip was wacky HW fun. 

MEREDITH. I know @Cheap21 didn't like all the tub mess at the start of the season so I wonder if the payback from Production would be worth a giggle? Cuz a cast trip where everyone BUT her got a tub (and that shade of Little Girl being late to dinner cuz she was in hers) was hilarious. Even more hilarious? Her melodramatic reaction to it. So unintentionally funny.

MONICA. Surprisingly very light these two episodes other than her great reactions. That is...until the shocker at the end. So...did Meredith set her up to drop that Angie K tea. And who had Angie K's info? Hmmm. I mean...Meredith DID have a PI at one point investigate everyone. But Meredith acted dumb...or was she? Could they be why Monica falls out with Meredith AND Angie K? I guess we will see. 

HEATHER. Fake a$$ bitca. When Little Girl is NOT my favorite and I'm sticking up for her, you have fallen even lower than her. Heather worked so hard this season to get back into fans' good grace. It was not successful with me, but she was not on my s*it list. But her pot stirring between Lisa and Little Girl was more about the fact that the focus was not on her. And sadly she does know the buttons to push with Lisa to get her to react. Like I said above...how like Jen she really is.

LISA. So one step forward, two steps back with her I swear. Over it at this point. For moments like when she was asking the girls for advice on how to deal with Little Girl and the grief she was going through...which led to a misunderstanding since Little Girl told Lisa first off camera that her friend died...there are moments like when she's on the trip letting Heather blow up her ego and taking her side in the Heather vs Little Girl fight. 

ANGIE K. From arguing with Meredith to toasting with her during the fight, it's shocking the turnaround she's had this season. She's gone from not liked by me to getting to know her. But this mess around her funds coming...she will be activated again. And it looked like next week it's back her vs Meredith though. 

LITTLE GIRL. You don't get many moments with me, but I felt that grief for your friend. And while I felt you overreacted to Lisa at the event, grief does make a person feel a way. And the fact that I STILL don't think you were being dramatic on the cast trip (unlike your cousin), I loved you letting Heather have it when she and Lisa tried to ambush her at the dinner table. Jealousy truly is a disease. Hopefully your cousin will get well soon.

Well, that's about it. Can't wait to see the Angie K/Monica/Meredith tea drama explode. 

RHOM

So far...RHOP...and then SLC (which I will get back to momentarily hehe)...and now my REAL babies RHOM!!! Oh, how I've looked forward to watching it in real time with the rest of you. So I'm so sad that my December work schedule has completely gotten in my way. And I'm on Episode 4. 

But...am I loving it?

So far...yes. As most of you know I was worried about RHOM's transition back to Bravo. Seeing the Peacock episodes, it looked so colorful and vibrant and breathtaking. Cinematical actually. So far for me...there is STILL slight worry. The confessionals don't look the same. And...especially on Episode 1...I felt the transitions were too gimmicky for me. But I am just happy to see them as they air so I guess I should just STFU. lol.

And so far...everyone (even Julia to my surprise) have come to play. I loved that the first episodes have been about fallout from the reunion. Especially for Alexia...who is looking like she will be having another telenovela year. But...redemption? Because as much as I have always loved her and loved her in Season 4, Season 5 was a bad look for her. So it was good to see her work on getting redemption from the fans cast this year. And starting with Julia of all people was inspired? Speaking of Julia, there she is calling out Marysol's pot-stirring in the first episode. She was giving S7 RHOA Cynthia and I don't mind that given how I felt about S7 Cynthia. lol. And then you have Lisa and Larsa with their new man and still giving story. And last but not least...I've become an actual stan for DOCTOR Nicole...showing off all that wealth and luxury. Oh, I died watching her boat shop. And then...finally...Guerdy...

If Season 5 was Lisa's year due to the divorce. It feels like from what I've see online, this season is going to be all about Guerdy. And just like people are dragging Juan's Roommate as I type this, people have been dragging Larsa for weeks now due to her part in this. And the thing is...just like I mentioned when I was discussing SLC Monica vs Lisa, here with Guerdy vs Larsa...it looked like it was just going to be a petty feud (Larsa feeling Guerdy is being fake and two-faced; Guerdy saying Larsa IS fake) has turned into something else (Guerdy's cancer diagonsis). And yes, Cancer is a trigger for a LOT of people...including me. So it seems like I might be angry at some point at Larsa who actually won me over last season. And then Martina just went through cancer, too...Larsa truly is self-absorbed, ain't she?

As for Episode 3, I feel...

ALEXIA. I mentioned that Alexia was on her apology tour this season. So far, so good. Perhaps if this was the ole Las Cubas, she would be able to move the way she wants to, but this is a NEW Miami. However, as moves go, she did good. She made up with Nicole, Julia, and Adriana. And those are good moves since they have influence over the group...and also could be coming for her throne of Queen of Miami at some point. And she hosted the first main group event at her house. But Alexia wouldn't be Alexia if she was not having some drama. And it's with Todd (they do WHAT in the bedroom?). Right now, it's a small boil, but it looks like it will grow because Adriana knows AND they are appearing to be using her as a scapegoat, too. And Adriana...is the REAL queen of messy drama. So...hehe.

LARSA. Last season I liked that she felt more involved with the drama. And that appeared to be moreso this year. The relationship with Michael Jordan's son alone is giving her buzz. Moreso because he appears to be down for being filmed and a bit messy...just like Larsa. lol. And she came into the season ready to feud with Guerdy. What she was not expecting was...Cancer. What I was not expecting was her tone deafness. I was actually enjoying the potential for a petty HW feud. But when she went and told COMPLETE STRANGERS (and THEN the ladies) about Guerdy and the cancer...something that was told in confidence TO her...NO. That was just...wrong. And it sounds like she will be doubling down. NO, MA'AM. Heated.

JULIA. GO ON MIAMI 50CYNT!!! lol. New hairdo, new personality for Julia. And I'm not hating. She also brought to mind Garcelle on BH. Garcelle on her first season, just sat back and observed, 2nd season she experimented a bit to see what worked in the group, and then 3rd season was producing a la Kyle. Julia was not producing as of yet, but she was getting her messy on with Marysol. Battle of the Sidekicks? hehe...I guess we will see. And she made sure to have a story through her relationship with Martina. I do wonder if they would touch on the online tweet drama. But I guess we would see.

LISA. Lisa has always been a lot. And it looked like she was going to be a lot this season. LOVE it. I also love her with Jody...who I noticed had a glow-up between the reunion and now. And he's looking FOINE with that little onion butt.  And them wearing matching clothes at the party was adorable. I love seeing Lisa happy. Perhaps it's because Lenny has been messy. Or it's because my personal life was a mess, too, this year so coming out the other end of it with someone on tv is a delight. That said...I agree that her friends do need to hold her accountable for her mentioning Lenny so much when she's trying to move on. But...in time. And there is still mess with Lenny so she has a storyline I want to watch as well.

NICOLE. QUEEN. I could watch her be rich all day long. And I've been loving that. And she will always have story due to her (may he rest in peace) father. Which I am looking forward to seeing the next step. Nothing much on her yet, but she's been like that for two seasons now. More background at the start of a season and then she emerging. Can't wait.

GUERDY. Guerdy, Guerdy, Guerdy. Where do I begin? First of all, I want a husband like Russell. Fine. Well off. And most importantly, is there for me. And she's been there with her every step of the way. And I love that. And if she did not have to deal with cancer, she would be having mess with Larsa. And I've been liking her journey. Loved that she is definitely and showing it all. And I really loved she went to Julia and Martina to see what she could expect. And I loved her general navigation of it all. 

MARYSOL. Can we have the old Marysol back? lol. Cuz I've over the silly drunk who wants to hate on Adriana and not move on. Didn't Lea Black call her out on this mess in the old seasons? So I was loving Miami 50 Cynt gathering Marysol all the way together at Alexia's party.

ADRIANA. YOU BETTA GIVE ME THAT RAVEN HAIR, GIRL!!! She's gotta her fi-ya hehe back and her hair and I love it!!!  And I fangirled seeing her with Mr. Gloria Estefan again. If only they could have gotten Gloria herself on camera. I would have lost it. lol. I loved she has her own group with Nicole, Julia, and Guerdy. And I love that she has made amends with Alexia. But here she goes again being messy about Todd. smh. But...that's my Brazilian beauty. 

Welcome back, Miami!!! I can't wait for more. When I get time. 

10 minutes ago, Cat said:

Not much talk about Miami here.

LOL!!! Great minds.  Look above. 

On 12/8/2023 at 5:25 AM, Cat said:

 

So I need to catch up on SLC. I'm trying, but I'm on the struggle bus with this show. About to jump on the Olive Branch With Thorns episode -- is it worth persevering? 

I do have thoughts on these looks, though:

Angie -- "My stylist said this is what all the Real Housewives wear to reunion."

Heather -- Grecian goddess. She looks stunning.

Lisa -- Yawn. Still channelling the rich hippie chick look. And is that dress a wool knit?

Mary -- Hello, Gizelle Bryant! LOL, to be fair, I love her style. Mary takes risks but rarely seems to get it wrong. 

Meredith -- The color, the fabric, the balance of covering up (arms) with exposure (cleavage) is perfectly judged. It's a win for Meredith who used to let the outfit wear her.

Monica -- An unsurprising dress for a newbie at her first reunion, but the color choice is unusual and pops with her hair and skin. Monica is playing all her chess moves perfectly at the moment.

Little Girl -- I can't. What is this, hunny? A place-mat for my kitchen table? Also she's had so many facial tweaks that she's become completely generic-looking. 

Hmmmm I would say everything from that episode up to the Sound Bowl episode is Gold to see the continuing shift alliances, more about Monica's relationship with her mother which is toxic sadly, and Monica (especially at the sound bowl event) utterly destroy Lisa with her words. Other than that, I would look for clips on the Churning (where they wear bonnets) to get the jigs of the drama. And then just jump to last week's episode...the start of their vacation cuz it was GOLD as well as a wacky start to the cast trip and typical GOOD Housewives moments and vicious drama between Little Girl (who actually has been good that episode and the episode before when her friend died) and Heather. I don't give Little Girl moments, but I was actually Team Her against Heather this past week cuz Heather was completely stirring that pot. Oh, and DO look for the Mary/Monica scene Monica had before the trip. It's hilarious!!!  Outside of what I mentioned, the middle of the season does drag a bit. I liked it in terms of seeing wel...everyone's lives a little bit more (I actually really resonated with Angie K and her foine husband's date night for personal reasons & Mere and FoineSeth are also a hoot during those eps), but such a contrast to the start of the season (Episode 1 up to 9) and this past week with Episode 13...I believe.

As for reunion looks, you had me LMFAO in the middle of work yesterday when I read your comment on Mary. I got looks.  I like Mere, but I feel that it will look better once I see it on screen...like a lot of HW reunion looks I see and don't like, but when it is on screen, it POPS. And I totally agree about Monica. She did that.  

SLC

You better give face, Mary!!! lol. aka REUNION LOOKS...

MEANWHILE...

55 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Thanks for the compliment. They better not steal my ideas or I’ll sue though.

Don't you mean steal your ideas again.  

11 minutes ago, janea4old said:

Yes! Charles Mesure is playing the mysterious man at the end of Dec. 1st episode. I won't say more since you haven't seen more yet.
 

His twitter https://twitter.com/CMesure/ 

 

Mesure retweeted this scene from Dec. 1st:

 

Thank you for the link.   One of my favorite actors and he was hot stuff on the remake V years ago.

Well, given how Dec. 1 ended, I feel safe to speculate he's the long discussed Pikeman. But thank you for the discretion.

11 minutes ago, janea4old said:

Yes! Charles Mesure is playing the mysterious man at the end of Dec. 1st episode. I won't say more since you haven't seen more yet.
 

His twitter https://twitter.com/CMesure/ 

 

Mesure retweeted this scene from Dec. 1st:

 

Thank you for the link.   One of my favorite actors and he was hot stuff on the remake V years ago.

Well, given how Dec. 1 ended, I feel safe to speculate he's the long discussed Pikeman. But thank you for the discretion.

12-1

Finally caught up enough. It does help that the holiday threw off CBS's player so they were are deleting episodes early. lol.

I made it to the reveal. And...??? I admit that I'm intrigued. 

First of all, I'm so happy to have CZ on a soap again. And she's been playing it to the hilt. I've been loving her. And anyone who can go toe to toe with Victor in the cuss out department was win. And that last camera frame at the house with Jordan in the walls...I got shivers. It was old school Y&R gothic and I didn't mind it at all.

Second of all, credit where it's due we at least did get some build-up to Claire and the mystery of who she was. So whoever thought otherwise...well...no. Still, I'm not sure how I feel about her being Eve. I vaguely remember Victoria, Cole, and Eve. And it's a shame we can't get flashbacks (though I love the Eve flashbacks since I was not around and only read of her) cuz it as HT Victoria. I definitely feel invested and the dark and gothic tone (and music) drew me in. But is there any wiggle room to make this plausible? At least when they did the changeling storyline on OLTL back in the day with Jess/Natalie there was enough wiggle room to doubt (and thankfully it was corrected before the show ended). It is inspired writing for sure.

And I liked the week of the reveal, the show focused squarely on it. The first time in a good minute that I didn't mind the focus on the Newmans. And then they slowly brought everyone else back in. Bring me to...

Happy to see we might still be getting Billy vs Kyle. And that Billy clued Jack in. But I live for seeing Abbott drama. And it looks like old Diane is coming back with her getting involved in Audra/Kyle/Summer...which I felt was dropped too quickly anyway. And while I don't like Ashley and Tucker basically switching roles, I can't hate on TSJ and ED's chemistry. They had a nice coda where you could just feel the sexual tension.

I feel they are doing a disservice to Chance/Summer. Not that I don't want it, but having Summer being all neurotic and quirky about it when AL can sell vixen (look at her in the intro) and fire. I do like how everyone else is sloooowly seeing she has it bad for Chance. And I still don't want to see Chance not be a cop or anything involving law enforcement. Say what you will about him, but him being a do-gooder has ALWAYS been his throughline through all of the actors who played him all the way back to JD. Though Chance as businessmen would lead to more scenes with Jill which I would LOVE.

So...Nate finally made it back to Chancellor-Winters? I might not like the 'twist' of how he got fired when he seem sincere about Victor's health, but that's where he should be. So...good job Mamie with the maunvering. 

Speaking of final exits and given @Cat mentioned Sister Circles...given the years we all have talked about Quad, her place, and that season...this sneak peek might be some confirmation that karma is coming for Quad.

Hold up @Cheap21 so M2M: DMV is not coming after all?

Ugh! I swear they never give M2M spinoffs a chance.

18 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

They are only talking facts.  

12-1

I honestly can't believe that after having so much flow over the last few months and multiple stories, that now EVERYTHING has stalled to have the characters whine about Eric maybe dying.

Okay, I can believe it, but ugh!

I have been enjoying seeing so much of JG though. She's been selling Donna's connection and love to Eric.

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HOLD UP ONE MOMENT!!! IS THAT WHO I THINK IT IS!???

7 hours ago, Cat said:

@DaytimeFan @Gray Bunny @Taoboi @Faulkner 

Luann and Sonja keeping busy with a last-minute endorsement deal with Uber Easts.

There's an Alex McCord diss in there, too. Or is it a nuRHONY diss?

 

Yasss!!!! Thank you for the tag, Cat!!! I hollered seeing it. The Countess...like Mariah Carey herself...the gift that keeps giving!!! And Sonja looked GORGEOUS!!!

2 hours ago, Cat said:

On another note, Luann has amazing legs and a movie-star figure. I am always amazed at how stunning she looks.

THIS.

I still can't believe this is the snobby woman you all have told me of and I've seen clips from the earlier seasons of NY. 

5 hours ago, Gray Bunny said:

Get it girls! Speaking of, I attended my second Countess LuAnn Cabaret show this weekend in Chicago (I saw another superstar this weekend as well... Mariah Carey), and it was another fun, boozy night of songs and laughter. No real tea to share, other than they're hoping Bravo picks them up for a second season of Crappie Lake in another town. 

During the audience Q&A (unfortunately I didn't get picked to ask a question like the last time), someone asked what Lu thought of the NuRHONY girls, and she turned around and asked for our feedback on each castmember. Jenna got the biggest applause by far. Jessel, Ubah, and Brynn got good applause. It was a mixed reaction to Erin. Sai got a BOO'ed across the board, to which LuAnn said she agreed with us. 

Seats in the front! Can't wait for the next one

Yassssssssssss!!! I wondered how your second showing went. And great minds!! I had mentioned Mariah Carey (jealous of you! Said with love. ;P) above before reading your post. 

Sounds like another great time. 

On 12/1/2023 at 2:30 PM, lucaslesann23 said:

The YR writers return on Monday.

Thank you for this. 

With me playing catch-up on GH, I have been wondering when the writers would return. Because GH has been good since the strikes and I felt part of that was the fact that stories were actually moving with beginnings, middles, and ends. And I would hate to see it go back to stalled storylines. 

Wow!!!

On 12/2/2023 at 9:49 AM, kalbir said:

Crimson Lights has been around for nearly 30 years. I can't remember if that set has been renovated much over the years.

I want to say it's been renovated at least once. Hmmm before KA came back or post it?

3 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Moon lights as a stripper at night!

He has the booty for it. lol.

I would have kept him as a cop though. 

SLC

So the other day, it was RHOP. And now...it's SLC's turn.

But a little tea...

It sounds like their reunion was one for the books. I'm definitely curious to see the fallout. Mary mentioned in her Teddi Terri Dimarco interview that everyone was against Monica, but Mary had her back. Which of course means Mary is at the reunion!!! lol. But also...that picture above with Mary makes me wonder about her status as well as Monica's status with Meredith. It appears there was an edited out part of the Mary/Little Girl dinner and Little Girl did eventually apologize to her so they might have made up?? I think that is true because there are pictures of Mary with Little Girl. I don't know how I feel about that. But I am happy to see all of these pictures of Mary interacting with people (like even with Kyle from BH of all people). Things that make you go hmmm.

As for the season...I'm up to this past week's episode and...I'm still liking it. It has definitely mellowed from the start of the season. I haven't minded it much. It has been like a nice calm before the storm that will be their cast trip (which is the last four episodes apparently). It definitely has allowed for more family scenes for the ladies...for better or for worse. 

But...the focal point has been Monica. Well, the feud between Lisa and Monica. What has started as a petty feud (Lisa losing the ring) to a feud with some substance (is Lisa too materialistic that she's self-absorbed/is Monica just jealous of Lisa's money) has saddened into silly, not nice high school drama and trying to ice Monica out. And I don't like it. Monica, for me, has been a breath of fresh air. And the fact that she has Lisa's number and calls it CONSISTENTLY has Lisa pressed as heck.

That was clear at the sound bowl event. Something that happened because Lisa was jealous that Monica did and has done since the season started...Monica can own up to when she's wrong and apologize so she mended her friendship with Angie K. Lisa clearly sees Angie K as a minion so she was butt hurt and causing a scene. A scene she started that Monica FINISHED. 

And that was clear again at the Churning. Heather played peacemaker and Monica was game. And she did apologize. But Lisa started it again. Not that Heather helped with that pointed game. And Lisa did not need to say it the way she said it and not expect Monica to defend herself. Monica keeps Lisa TRIGGERED. 

Last time I mentioned SLC, I explained why I liked Lisa aka Fabulous Ice. I was happy she found a balance between the two persona she showed on this show. But playing catch-up, I'm very NO. I would rather see her being Fabulous Ice. I have been enjoying the drama with her son and his mission and how it makes the other cast members feel as well as how it humanizes Lisa herself in a way. Because right now, she AIN'T Fabulous Ice. And if anything she's acting like Jen Shah with all of those outbursts she has been having and getting in people's faces constantly. Lisa has deluded herself into thinking she's the Queen of SLC (when we all know it's Meredith  ) and the truth is that is not the case. Worse, an upstart is upstaging her so she has no choice but an ice out. 

Good luck with that. As for how the ladies are looking going into the cast trip...

MEREDITH. After a roaring start with the rivalry with Angie K, she has taken a backseat to Lisa vs Monica. If anything I felt she's been giving comic relief with the middle parts of the seasons. Her dynamic with Seth (mmmm Seth) continues to be quirky fun to watch. The scene with her trying to set up (and failing) her podcast. Bath continues to be a running joke. And her at the Churning was a hoot. And her friendship with Lisa is back on track. She has been being a housewife at least. Best of all...none of it avoided her son.

HEATHER. Well, I can say this much...her latest book event was soooo her. Lisa singing (that Monica shaded). The choir from last season. Heather bringing her humor. That said...it just looks like she's throwing anything at the wall to see what sticks this season. It's clear she is not the fan favorite anymore. Either that, or she is really just boring. At least she is still giving scenes with her daughters. But...she's too insecure. Talking about Lisa's son's mission in one breath and then getting upset Lisa has not involved her in any part of it in another breath. Being such a Pick Me for Lisa's attention still...and that was clear at the Churning. Just ugh. 

LITTLE GIRL. Could the wind be turning? Could I actually LIKE Little Girl? Uhhhh...NO. But I thought it was interesting during Meredith's podcast that worked that Little Girl came across as someone that was looking for Husband Number 3. Poor Justin. Like Heather, she also appears to be throwing things at the wall to see what sticks. So while all this marriage drama appears fake, Justin's feelings about it do not appear fake. So...things that make one goes hmmm. And we know I live for any moment where Mary drags Little Girl...whether it was edited or not. 

ANGIE K. Someone says around the Sound Bowl event, Angie K must have found out she got a snowflake due to the fact she calmed down. I happen to believe them. In the middle of the season, she has only had ONE scene with Meredith directly. Other than that, Meredith and she do not acknowledge each other Almost like the first third of the season hasn't happened. But the thing is...she continues to give. The middle person in the Lisa/Monica feud has given insight for sure on who she is. And her little date night with her FOINE husband also explained things a little more...as well as brought up more questions for me about them. So she has grown on me.

LISA. I just can't defend her in this feud with Monica. I could understand at the beginning when it was still a petty feud. Now? Nope. At the skating rink, she was too nosy. At the Sound Bowl event, it was her that started from the moment she walked in. And then on top of that, she pulled from Jen Shah's playbook and tried to step up to Monica's face like she was an ATL housewife named Porsha. Girl, NO. And then using Heather's game at the Churning to verbally attack Monica and thought she was not going to get some blowback. After Monica gathered her all the way together (Monica's intelligently sounding and worded mini-monologue on streetsmarts was GOLD, Monica's intimation of Lisa is hilarious) at the Sound event. When Monica called her out at the skating rink. I mean...why try when you can't keep up verbally with someone who can also keep up with you physically? She has been nasty. And self-absorbed in a not fun HW way. Even the mission storyline is starting to fall flat in humanizing her. Monica might be jealous of Lisa for having money, but I feel Lisa is jealous that Monica can get attention just by being...herself.

MONICA. THE STAR. Watching Monica have drama with her mom...AND made her walk home. Watch Monica with fun confessionals. Watch (and LOVE) Monica around Mary. Watch Monica gather Lisa effortlessly. I just been loving Monica. I am worried knowing that the last episodes are on the cast trip. And the cast trip sounds like it will be a gang-up on Monica. If the Churning is a sign...well...

So...still enjoying this season. But it has not been 'all fire go' like it has been since the start though. HOWEVER definitely a bounce back from that awful Season 3. 

Monica is totally giving Season 5 Kenya on RHOA. And Mary...is still love.

It's been a minute since I've seen a DAYS promo and YT works for me so thank you for that. 

Well...HELLLLLLLLL-HO, Johnny. Wavy shoulder-length hair works for him. Cuz WOOF!!!

I hope Nicole makes to do a Sami-style slap if that isn't a fantasy sequence. 

On 11/24/2023 at 9:29 PM, Soapsuds said:

Julianne Moore - ATWT Frannie/Sabrina

Ummmm....I'm in!

On 11/25/2023 at 10:39 AM, DramatistDreamer said:

Whoa that is one racy trailer, it makes Tudors series look like a Disney channel show!

Seeing this made me wonder why Moore had never been asked to portray Mary, Queen of Scots. I know this series is not about Mary, Queen of Scots but the fact that Moore’s own mother was Scottish, Moore probably has a good handle on the accent, not to mention, Moore’s famous red mane. Perhaps Moore had been waiting for a role that was more out of the box? Least expected?

It looked so scandalous when I watched. I can't wait!!!

Julianne Moore definitely knows how to play evil well.

On 12/1/2023 at 10:10 AM, janea4old said:

I waited until a couple of days after the dialogue references to that baby aired in the USA (on Wed Nov 29) ... before referring to it here in the unspoiled thread for Dec. 1st. 
And still I'm not giving any spoilers.  The baby was discussed on Wed. Nov. 29, but the claims that were made about what happened in the past, we don't really know yet if those claims are true or not.

As it should be. Most of us here do a wait period, use spoiler tags (those who know how  ), or do vagueness. But we also keep in mind that a discussion thread is just that. A discussion thread. 

For example, just now watching the 27th, but I have some idea the reveal is this week and what it sounds like it entails, but I still want to see the how, why, and reveal of it all. Since I know what the reveal entails, I don't mind seeing what people think on the discussion thread since I am sure as of when I posted said thread Nov 30th, it had been seen by everyone BUT me cuz we know I take forever to watch my soaps. I am happy to see that I'm actually caught up on all of them to this week BUT DAYS but I don't have access so I wouldn't be. 

In any case...it's all good.