pdm1974

Did the story with Ava and Mr. Burnell ever get resolved?

I feel year 9 just got so wacky and out of hand I'm not sure anyone could turn that ship around. Passions did have some of my favorite dialogue of all time though... Grace- "I haven't had thing to wear since the house got sucked into hell!" Some of the actors should have gotten awards just for keeping straight faces.

I agree, and it was sort of disorienting when Cruz's mother was suddenly 20 years younger. I don't remember the recast lasting past this story either. I forgot how they eventually wrote Ric out. Did he just quietly leave town?

Thanks! That would be interesting to see!

I feel like the show didn't start of as a parody of soaps but as a supernatural soap that JER loved to write. But as the years went on, especially at the end, I feel he went all out parody. Remember Juanita who blamed Pilar for her whole family getting mowed down the cops? She was totally off the charts camp/telenovela. It was fun to watch but no way could you take it serious.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQMfUf7dE8

Travis was really bad as Ethan, but the writing hardly helped. I did think Eric's performance was an improvement though because I think he really "got" the campiness of the show. As an actor on such an over-the-top crazy ass show, you just really needed to embrace the kookiness to shine.

Does anyone know what the actual ratings were for this show when it aired?

Was the 4.8 the highest that SB ever rated?

Ah, that explains why that family came and went so fast. It could have been interesting if it had been allowed to developed. It definitely gave Cruz's mother an opportunity for a storyline of her own. I remember the daughter, too...Tawny. She was never given a chance to do much either. It felt like the entire story for this family got wrapped up in about two weeks. It was definitely an odd time story-wise on SB. I always thought the set for the Lockridge house looked tiny especially compared to the one for the Capwells. Did the Andrade family have their own set in the beginning? I read somewhere that in the show's bible Rosa had other daughters in addition to Santana and Danny. It would have been interesting to see one of those brought on especially when Rosa returned towards the end. I always liked the relationship between Rosa and the Capwell children, especially Mason. She had been the surrogate mother to all of them after Pamela disappeared and Sophia was thought to be dead. It would have been interesting to see if Rosa's children had any resentment regarding their mother having to spend so much time raising these rich kids.

The younger characters were definitely the highlight of Loving in its last few years with some really solid actors. It's a shame that it didn't translate into higher ratings with younger viewers.

Developing the character of Ric was definitely a missed opportunity to expand Cruz's family. There was that blink and you missed it storyline with the Richards family were it was revealed that this old, evil, rich man was really Ric's father, but that went nowhere fast. Also, I thought it was odd that Cruz's sister Carmen was never mentioned again.

I think the show really shot itself in the foot by killing off Sally. She had the potential to be a leading heroine for a very long time. The recast didn't work, but another actress could have worked well.

Characters came and went sometimes with lightning speed on SB. One of favorites that I thought should have stayed around long-term was Minx's long-lost daughter Cassie. The character had such an interesting backstory, and the actress was great playing the slightly unhinged character. Not only did she have the Lockridge tie-in, but she could have been a great ongoing villain.

I agree about Dynasty this season. I enjoy my camp and catty lines, but the show has seemed to be going for just out and out comedy lately which is just not clicking. I thought the second half of season one was some great, very tightly written soap. I loved all the twists and cliffhangers. This season seems to be limping along. I never understood that whole Culhane/Ava story. Cristal 2.0 is a bust. There's no real conflict with her or why Blake is even into her. Maybe they should scrape the character idea completely. The highlight is the character of Sam for me, but I'm missing Steven. I'm hoping there's plans to bring the character back. You need that kind of more grounded character to even things out.

Speaking of Carmen Duncan, she's the only Iris I really knew since I watching the show as a kid during her era. I always found her character fascinating and was disappointed when she was written off. I think if they would have kept her as a bitch on wheels and a thorn in Rachel's side it could have worked long-term in a Vicki/Dorian from OLTL kind of way.

I wonder if it could be profitable being shown on the ABC app just as CBS has original programming on their All Access App. I think streaming is where most of TV is heading eventually anyway.

Also, shows now need to only produce 35 episodes a year to be considered for Daytime Emmy consideration. A nice even 40, one hour shows, with a smaller focused cast, could be great.

I would love to see a company like Netflix with real cash reboot it even if it was for much shorter number of episodes per season.

Also, I think a few more years later and the shows could have been much more successful online. Now, most people don't think twice about streaming their content on demand, but even back as soon as 2013 it was still sort of a new concept for most. I'd love to see (I know it's a dream) to see either AMC or OLTL rebooted again online now.

Isn't Jason Tam from OLTL gay? I always thought he was so freaking cute!

I LOVED Seven Years. It was such a great insight into daytime TV during the 70s as a whole. I really loved reading about when he decided to turn Rachel from the villain to the heroine. Many of the stories that Lemay wrote in the 70s impacted the show for the rest of its run.

I did watch the revival online after being a fan of the original and while it couldn't replace the original, I did think it had some potential. The David/Angie connection was one that would have been interesting to see play out. I also loved Miranda and AJ. The Cassandra story was beyond depressing. For those of you who watched it, what do you think were the pros and cons?

I feel that if the show had focused on it's successful young demographic and not gone off the deep end (don't let me start talking about Vincent/Valerie), but the show could have had more staying power. It was attracting the viewers soaps needed to ultimately survive.

I believe Lemay slowly phased out the Matthews family and replaced them with the Corys/Frames. The Matthews family was sort of brought back in the late 80s with Aunt Liz/Russ/Olivia/Josie. I always enjoyed the antics of Aunt Lize and Irene Dailey.

I watched Passions on and off from the beginning. I just remember the "days" would drag on and on...sometimes weeks worth of episodes and constant fake outs of reveals. Still, it has it's fun moments. I think it should have stayed on the supernatural track to stand out from the other shows.