Everything posted by Soaplovers
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Another World Discussion Thread
It seemed as though 1991 had three characters that were recast during major story (Vicky/Marley, Paulina, and Grant). Now Grant had to be recast, but I often wonder how stories would have been different had Anne Heche and Cali Timmons remained as Vicky/Marley and Paulina. Cali's Paulina had a manipulative persona while Judi's Paulina was more tough on the outside/soft on the inside. Anne's Vicky was more crafty while Jenson's Vicky was more chip on her shoulder.... Anne's Marley was more composed while Jenson's Marley was more frantic. The main things I could think of that wouldn't have changed storywise was that Marley/Jamie wouldnt have broken up (since AH and Russell Todd had chemistry), and I don't think Ryan/Vicky would have had to deal with Grant as a spoiler. And I think some of the story given to Vicky in terms of Grant would have remained with Paulina.
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Ryan's Hope Discussion Thread
I grew up in Chicago.. and in a lot of ways Chicago was similar to New York City in terms of their being various neighborhoods within the city. You tend to stay in your neighborhood for various things such as shopping, bars, and sometimes even places of employment. So I could buy Ryan's Hope being so narrow in focus because the family had immigrated to America, open their bar, and had regulars that had coming into Ryan's Bar for decades. That is how urban areas.. or were at that time.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
I think the reason Steve/Betsy worked was because Betsy was connected to vet characters such as David, Ellen, and Kim so viewers got to see them while Betsy was heavily featured. The Dobsons came in at the end of the Don Hughes stint on the show.. long after his more dramatic period was concluded (i.e. his marriage to Joyce). I was surprised that they didn't make more use of Joyce.. a character that the Dobsons should have excelled at writing. Based on the 1980 episodes I watched, the show wasn't bad.. it just didn't have the energy of GL and I don't think ATWT ever was a soap that had the wacky off beat vibe of GL to be honest
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
RHOSLC: While it's horrible that Monica had a horrible unbringing, my belief is that anything that happens before you're 18 is your parents fault.. and anything after 18 is your fault. Monica should be in therapy and cut ties with her mother instead of having her mother around her kids. Also, I know people that had mothers/fathers like Monica's.. and they didn't cheat on their spouse with an inlaw, didn't get defensive anytime someone gives feedback, nor be so judgemental. RHOBH: Sutton is confused why she can't have a 2nd date... but I have a feeling she talks to her dates the same way she talked to her assistant... and if so, then I don't blame the men for ghosting her. RUGT: I mean why is anyone surprised that this franchise has gotten toxic? You invite the likes of Brandi, Ramona, Kenya, and Gizelle onto these trips... of course, each season will be toxic. Btw, I was rewatching season 1 of RHOBH and the one thing I noticed that was done back then was that there were episodes where the women weren't together. They hung out with their own friends, their significant other, their kids, etc... unlike now where the women are together way too much.
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Search For Tomorrow Discussion Thread
I know Louise Shaffer in her Locher Room interview said her taking the part of Stephanie was a huge mistake, but that she needed the money. She said that having her take over what after Cheatam left was a huge mistake because it didn't give the audience time to mourn/adjust. She also did say that Cheatam infused Stephanie with a playfulness/a sexiness that she herself did not have... and mentioned that the big wigs just assumed Rae and Stephanie were rich bitch characters without realizing that both characters were a lot more naunced then just being a rich bitch.
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LIFETIME: "Ladies of the 80's: A Diva's Christmas"
Emma Samms still has health problems so most likely she couldn't do it even if she wanted to.. heck I would have tried for Pamela Sue Martin if you needed someone from Dynasty.
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Ryan's Hope Discussion Thread
It would have made sense for Mary to have left Jack and taken Ryan with her instead of killing her off. The show had been setting up marital issues between Mary/Jack for months and he was basically having an emotional affair with Siobhan already. And later on, the show could have either recast Mary.. or just had Kate Mulgrew come back as Mary for visits (she did come back twice in the 80s).
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
RHONY: Erin seems to be confused alot..maybe she isn't lying... maybe she's just plain confused. Ubah needs therapy and we need to provide shelter for Mr Connecticut because we know she'll turn abusive. Jenna is treated with kid gloves...but I think she does the woe is me as a defense mechanism. Ubah points out how Jessel, Erin and Sai didn't want Jenna on the show...me thinks she also didn't want Jenna on the show. And Jenna was hesitant to do the show and was given outs that the others couldn't get in order to do the show..so I can see why the others were resentful and probably knew they would look the bad guys if they called out her exercising those 'outs'. Jessel and Pravit are the modern day Alex and Simon Mccord.
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The soap opera writers' discussion
It was a 2 week strike and it was about residuals for the burgeoning home video market... and it only lasted 2 weeks because the Guild accepted the low ball offer from the studios because 'home videos were an untested market'... and as we all know the WGA lost out on money because of giving in too quickly.
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Edge of Night (EON) (No spoilers please)
I also thought Ms. Sloan captured the essence of Nicole better than Ms Bentzen did.. and also carried herself off as more mature even though she was 29/30 when taking over the part.
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SOD is ending it's weekly print edition
I'm surprised that the magazine lasted in print for as long as it did.. when the quality started to decline in the early 2000s. And I had heard stories about the toxic office environment with Stephanie Sloane, Hinsey, etc. The thing that really made me think that SOD was finally going to go away from being a print edition was the Locher Room interview with Sloane, Hinsey, etc... and I kept to thinking myself 'you're all living in the past and it's no wonder why SOD looks so poorly put together and a relic of the old days'. I think that coverage in the magazine should have been more about interviews with actors on current and past soaps, more in depth opinions on the current stories on the 4 soaps, and maybe even a look back at past popular stories on current and old soaps.. maybe interview the headwriter/stars that recalled that story, etc.
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Secrets of Midland Heights
I'm guessing that Lorimar/David Jacobs/CBS were aiming to make this into a Peyton Place type of primetime soap for the 80s. Putting a show aimed at the teen/young adult crowd on Saturday night was not smart, and it didn't seem as though there was anything that would make people want to check it out (i.e. no hook). It seemed like the producers figured maybe there were too many characters/plots for people to keep track of and they redid the show as Kings Crossing focusing on one family moving back home to start over. A more soapy version of the 70s show Family.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
Yeah she is. She's an adult and could have maybe tried a different technique in order to make UGT 4 pop. I'm sick of viewers giving her a pass. @Cat I do think Aylan got in her cousin's ear between filming the season and the reunion. However, the reason Aylan works on her show is because she does show her whole life. We saw her with her husband, with her son, and with building her modeling business. And she also had a ying to her yang (or a yang to her yin) in Stansbury. Stansbury and Aylan are what made Dubai a good show in season 1 because you knew that both women had awesome traits.. it's just that neither one would listen to what the other was saying. Sadly.. Ubah didn't have much to show nor did she find a yin for her yang.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
RHONY Ubah- she needs to talk to her cousin because she was a fail as a housewife. And she should be mad at Sai..not Erin for the boyfriend slip and why was she joking about slapping her boyfriends? She has the makings of an abusive partner. Erin - she stirred the pot, was defensive, lied, and made mountains out of molehills...she's housewife material. Jessel - she defended herself well..but I have a feeling Andy isn't too happy that she only moved to NYc for the show..if rumors are true. Brynn- please don't have a kid...you're not mature enough to raise one. Jenna - she needs to stand up for herself...maybe Brynn can help her with that. Sai - backtrack queen. I hope part 2 is better
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
I think they should low ball.. she didn't deliver at all. She brought nothing and shared almost nothing
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
RHONY: Sai is deeply insecure and she lashes it out instead of actually fixing what ails her. Rumors have come out that Sai got her current hubby while he was married to someone else. If true, it certainly explains why she's so obsessed with Jessel/Pravits marriage. Brynn is emotionally stunted and until she deals with her traumas and grows up.. she isn't going to be in a serious long term relationship.. though I do wonder if she really wants to be in one.. or if she thinks she should be in one. Lastly.. I loved Nancy Drew growing up so I loved the birthday cake Erin really didn't do too much in this episode.. and I won't ever call her a Karen since that is a derogatory term. Jessel was basically most of the material/drama for the season so it isn't any wonder she got the chair closest to Andy at the reunion. I can't help but like her. Jenna was sweet to lend Jessel her apartment all in the name of supporting women.. yet is on a reality show known for tearing down other women. Irony at it's finest. I still think she and her son are a little too close.. it's kinda creepy. Ubah wouldn't be so offended by the question Sai's husband asked last week if she wasn't so bothered by being single. It's my experience that those that truly are content being single don't really care if people ask why they're single. And she's too into herself to truly have a satisfying long term relationship. Overall.. it was a character building season and if there is another season.. maybe the drama will be in larger doses.
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Dark Shadows Discussion Thread
My mom was a teen during DS's original run and when I started to watch the reruns on Scifi channel back in the day... she always said Angelique had those mysterious eyes that made her understand why people fell under her spell. Even though she played Angelique most of the time, because she was bought back in different ways.. the character either remembered moving beyond her obsession with Barnabas, or was still knee deep in it. And she played a convincing ingenue in the 1841PT story quite well. Such sad news
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
If they keep this cast then they might as well cancel the show.
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Twin Peaks
I thought once Catharine came out of hiding after disguising herself as a Japanese business man was when the show couldn't figure out what to do with her. And when the Andrew Packard/Josie arc was done...she didn't really do much for the rest of the second season. She, along with Madchen amick both played unexpected break out characters..and Twin Peaks wouldn't have been the same without them.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
RHOC: Heather manages to skate by yet again...same with Tamra. I'm not blinded to Heather like most viewers are. I sense what we see on the show is a fake Heather...and that the real Heather is more like her mom of screen. I think everyone knows Tamra is two faced..but like Taylor Armstrong said on WWHL once...they're afraid of her (at least Gina is). We need another cast tune up for season 18 because this cast isn't working. I think we need to focus on one of the housewives and cast a few of their friends. RHONY: I have heard rumors Sai got her current hubby by being the other women when he was married before. Not sure if true, but could explain why she's so invested in the Pravit travel story. Which by the way, my manager does the same thing as Pravit..and once points and perks are obtained..he and his wife go to Europe with those perks and points. Regarding the Reunion preview, Brynn looks to finally be fiesty and has dropped the sex kitten act..for a bit.
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Dynasty Discussion Thread
The reboot did correct the problem of Fallon's airtime... problem was that the actress cast as Fallon was one note. They needed to do what the original Dynasty did when casting Fallon... cast someone against type. PSM was known as Nancy Drew, and having her play Fallon was a genius move because people had fond memories of her from Nancy Drew. The reboot needed to cast someone that had played a warm and likable character in the past to play Fallon.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Apparently Jacqueline Courtney was on Irna's list as well because of how she was portraying Alice in the early weeks of the show. She had said that she had chosen to play Alice like a typical mid 60s teenager that was perky and full of energy.. which Irna didn't like. She claimed a director told her about this so she adjusted how she portrayed Alice and wasn't written off in those early months like a lot of other performers were. I did see Alice in a fall 1964 episode and she seemed a bit like Rachel with liking two guys and having a party in the basement and wondering how she would get alcohol so would have been interesting if we had seen more of that Alice in the 70s.