Chris B

The Eve retcon was huge IMO and the most bizarre of them all. Eve was central to so many key Victor/Nikki moments and at the time Cole was introduced, it wasn't that long ago. It's odd that they took one element of the story, of course Cole potentially being Victor's son, but nothing else. Eve had such rich history with Victor and Nikki and it was all wasted. You can even keep her on her death bed, but imagine how much more interesting it would've been to see her show some regret over her past actions.

Poor Heavenly is working overtime to keep it interesting. Toya is working as well, but she's trying too hard. I'm curious how you'll feel about her as it goes on.

Allegedly she wanted more money than was offered to her.

I couldn't allow myself to get excited about this. I feel Brad Bell did an excellent job bringing Sheila back the last time. He did a great job of making the horrible stuff done to her on Y&R work in a way that freed her up to be a real long term character again. After that intro it went from an amazing return to a total dud. I get she would've had to leave because of her run for government, but it was so disappointing to see her do nothing. They could've brought her kids back or pursued a serious romance with Eric or anybody really. Sheila was vital to making B&B a success and her return felt disrespectful to what she could do for the show if she was properly utilized. Until Brad Bell steps down I'm at the point where I just can't invest in anything on this show. You know no matter how exciting the casting or pairing, the execution will always be lazy and go back to the merry go round of triangles and repeated stories.

Considering how early in development this seems to be, I think we'd be lucky if the show got a pilot order. It's also possible the script is so amazing they'll go ahead and give a series order based on the script, but I can't see them doing that for a soap reboot in primetime. Most likely we won't hear anything about it though.

It would likely be produced like a regular primetime show.

Okay this was an impressive way to show the reunion looks! Whatever company produced Real Housewives of Durban did an amazing job! It was much more interesting that I expected.

I feel like that’s a good description of how I viewed the show just from promos and media coverage. I remember things like when Kelli Martin’s character died and a big helicopter stunt. In that way it seems like it paved the way for the type of over the top stories and stunts you see on Grey’s Anatomy.

I’d never seen this show, but of course know of it due to popularity. I had been debating between starting this and NYPD Blue, but this thread getting bumped up was a sign so I started this! I’m only two episodes in but I’m loving it so far. They seem to have struck gold with this original ensemble. I will say it’s very jarring to see George Clooney on a tv show since I know him primarily from movies. I grew up watching The Facts of Life, but I was watching that as he became a movie star so this feels different. Looking forward to seeing this slice of history so many seem to love! Would y’all say it holds up until the end?

Okay I just listened to the Friends of Dorothy podcast with Heather and she never mentions the name Leah, which makes Leah’s media tour even more odd. She only mentions the OGs by name. She does mention being assaulted at one point, but she doesn’t even hint to who did it. Leah must come off really bad if she’s this defensive about it.

There have been two times when someone has mentioned Leah (not knowing they don’t like each other) and Heather will change the subject, but she’s never said anything bad about her by name. When discussing why she left the show she simply says it wasn’t what she expected and she thinks she’s better off not participating. She doesn’t mention conflict with anybody, which is why it seems odd Leah keeps making it seem like Heather is going to the press about it.

@TaoboiQueen Mary still look a mess! I wish whoever does Jen’s hair would work with Mary. I’d love to see her mix it up with a variety of cute hairstyles that flatter a black woman. I think she could be gorgeous!

Bershan did an Instagram Live with FacesByBravo and I’ll try to recap it. She was pretty good about not revealing spoilers, but it was still interesting. Backstory in her: Years ago she found out she had breast cancer and she didn’t tell anybody and beat it in private. Then two years later she was diagnosed with Stage 4 cancer and given 3 months to live. She said she immediately told her family and friends and regrets not saying anything the first time. She beat it and says she has now been cancer free for 13 years! A business client asked her to speak at an event about her experience and that led to her becoming a wellness coach. Prior to that she owned a restaurant near the Waldorf Astoria in NYC. How she joined RHONY: Reading between the lines (bc she mentions not filming with Heather), it looks like she lucked into the gig. I’m going to say Heather’s leaving is why she was hired. She had done an unrelated pilot for Bravo that wasn’t picked up and instead Bravo asked her to do RHONY. She thinks she doesn’t have an Apple or cast photo because she started late. She said once she arrives she’s fully involved and is filming confessionals. Her intro to the show is Ramona who she knew socially prior to filming. She said she came in with preconceived notions based on watching the show, but once she got comfortable and got to know them it was fine. She’s closest to Sonja and Ramona and wishes she’d gotten to know Luann better. When asked if there is a villain this season or someone who will take the heat from fans she said no. She said pretty much everybody gets into it with everyone, but the NYC ladies keep it moving. Basically everybody has ups and downs. It was a great interview! If she’s anything like she seemed she should fit in well. She also told a hilarious story about her OWN reality show which makes me want to find it. Apparently she took a cast member with her to Africa and paid for her flight and hotel and the lady started treating her like [!@#$%^&*] once she arrived lol. The way she told the story let me know she’ll be great if there is conflict.

I’m glad Dallas is over. Idk how they got 16 episodes but New Jersey is only getting 13. I do think overall this season was decent, but it was too long. If they cut 3 episodes (and the entire Oklahoma trip) it would’ve been much stronger. It just felt like they were bending over backwards to stretch the material to fit the 16 episode order. On the other hand you have New York, which can get an entire interesting episode out of one day of filming. Ramona even said that despite Covid this season will have more episodes than last, which doesn’t surprise me. Those women know how to deliver. With that said, I am excited for the reunion. I thought that trailer was iconic and much better than the promo for RHOA. A good level of drama was shown and I love that they didn’t explain Brandi and Kary being on the tv screens which only made it more bizarre and hilarious. Brandi’s lighting made me SCREAM! That was better than I could’ve imagined and exactly how that miserable woman deserved to go out. I’m just happy New York is about to start. I’m ready for reliable and easy to watch housewives.

I’ll join in on the Carly love. This is the most interesting she’s been since I started back in 2019. I was so bored by Sonny and Carly as this happy, boring middle aged couple. I feel like he’s shining in a new environment and she is also very convincing trying to hold her family together and running the business. I often find myself watching these scenes and thinking of Sarah Brown. Not in a negative way suggesting Laura Wright isn’t doing a good job, but finally I see the Carly that Sarah Brown created. Im catching up on last week and I notice Scott asked Liz about her parents and her sister Sarah. I know we’ve all been waiting for her family for literal decades. I hope this isn’t another fake out. Her family is central to the history of the show and Liz is incredibly popular. I don’t think everybody needs their family on, but it would benefit her. They just brought on parents for Chase, a newbie who really didn’t need them. If he can get a full family then surely Liz can.

Another RHOA production scandal! Look at how this was edited. How they thought nobody would notice is beyond me. It’s like they’re going overdrive to create the story or perception they want and it’s getting kinda weird. Why is this specifically happening with ATL? I feel like for Kandi to start speaking out it must be bad. She never complains.

@TaoboiAndy LOVED Mama Elsa. I remember she was afraid to fly so Bravo got a private bus to drive her to New York so she could do WWHL and the reunion. She even had a spin off called Havana Elsa about her coffee business. I remember ordering some of it at the time. Her health issues which caused her to film less in season 3 is also why they demoted Marysol. I liked Marysol, but she was more of the HW than Marysol. She may not have had as much screentime, but she had the impact. ETA: The RHOA reunion was EXCELLENT! The trailer was TRASH and they released no sneak peaks so I assumed it would be boring. I decided to watch Kandi's Speak On It and she revealed a lot of tea. - In regards to the complaints about the season, she blamed production and not the cast. She said that they'd been filming for weeks and that was all cut and they were told to act like it didn't happen because it wouldn't appear on the show. - At the reunion she spoke much more than they showed. She said she spoke up in defense of LaToya and Kenya, but her mic was turned down. She said Drew lied about her Native American costume and Kandi called her out for that, but it was cut. - When Drew's team member busted in LaToya's room it was a BIG deal. LaToya was pissed and went on a major rant cussing out Drew and Ralph for that. Kandi said Andy told her "this isn't that type of show." To me, that is so offensive and I'm sick of the way they treat the black housewives. What Drew's team member did is a major violation and she had the right to be upset. - She said she felt like the editing protected Drew, as well as Andy because Ralph wasn't held to the fire the way they did Apollo and Peter back in the day. She said more, but it was a very good companion to the actual reunion. I love that she kept going in on production and making it clear she felt they did a horrible job this season.

If they did a Passions reboot or spin off I think it would be hugely successful. That show has so many secret fans who are now the perfect age to be valuable to advertisers. I just don't know who you could get to write it. As crazy as JER was, his show was very progressive in terms of representation. I'd hate to see it return and lose the diversity it had. For me, the most obvious services for soap spin-offs is Peacock and Paramount Plus. Instead of those little spin offs on the DOOL app, they could do similar things on Peacock, which is looking for an audience. DAYS has so many characters off screen you could easily do mini-series and spin offs in a primetime format. Like the Last Blast Reunion. That could've been 8-10 hour long episodes and it could've been done on a small budget and likely would've driven DAYS fans to Peacock. Same for the Chabby spin off in Paris. Literally you could easily come up with any number of spin offs, you could even do a supernatural spin off and they'd be able to do all of them for a good price. Another one that is a no brainer would be a B&B spin off. You have so many characters at Forrester International. You could do a New York or Miami set spin off.

The way B&B writes and treats its black actors, like many soaps, is pitiful so even though she isn’t a great actress, I won’t knock her excitement. I wish any black actor on soaps the chance to spread their wings. So many ARE talented and are wasted in the background supporting the white characters in lead stories while waiting for their chance to have a generic C story in the background.

I actually think Jersey looks fantastic! They didn’t overdo it and even with their quirks I think everybody looks great. Teresa, Melissa and Jennifer are my favorites. @CatThe fact that anybody would even develop a show around Teddi’s eating disorder camp is insane! Lord! Who is next?! Kelly Dodd?

If she can get a pilot, they must be taking pitches from ANYBODY lol. I was shocked to see it to be honest.

Has anybody mentioned that Shannon Beador recently filmed a pilot for Peacock? She posted on her Instagram about it. I wonder what other Bravo-verse things they may be working on. I do think something smart to consider if PK and Dorit do end up back in the UK is to do a housewives show and let Dorit lead the cast. People have been dying for a Real Housewives of London and by using Dorit it would give the show a chance to potentially crossover either on Bravo or Peacock in the US.

Oh I hate to tell you, but the stuff about the Moon family is true. I heard about that lawsuit months ago, but I think because it didn't pick up steam she was able to present it like a "blind item," but thats a known case and the documents are out there. I never mentioned it because it doesn't mention her or any of the women in the family. Even her husband is barely mentioned, it's mostly her husbands family that is mentioned. Unlike the Erika or Jen Shah stuff, this has in no way implicated Tiffany in any wrong doing so it hasn't changed my opinion of her.

Yes and it was a fantastic story! I loved the nod at the end that he *was* Jock but left so he didn't cause his family more pain. That was a story that shouldn't have worked, but did. In general what hurt Dallas is they didn't build for the future. They were so concerned with making sure Larry Hagman and Patrick Duffy were happy that they didn't care about anything else. A character like Jamie was great. She was a Ewing, experienced in the oil business (could've been useful at Ewing Oil) and had great chemistry with Cliff. Killing her off TWICE instead of developing her more was insane. Then as yall have mentioned, they did nothing useful with Jenna. Donna literally spent her entire final season in another state! There is just so much they could've done but they didn't even try. Of the new characters I feel the strongest was Cally. The actress took a comical role and added depth that made it believable that she would be with JR. I also feel like Lucy had potential in this time period, but they never even attempted a story with her. Lucy has to be the most wasted character of all time. I wish she had gone back to Knots Landing.

Tamara Tattles hasn’t been 100% with he tea lately, but her new post is juicy. Link: https://tamaratattles.com/2021/04/19/exclusive-rhoa-tea-2/ According to Tamara Tattles, Bravo is as disappointed as us in the latest season of RHOA and they’re in a sort of RHOC situation where they don’t have any good talent on deck and they don’t know what to do. They’re rushing Potomac out sooner to save their Sunday night lineup. As of now LaToya isn’t expected to be back. Kenya is on the bubble because of the issue with Marc not letting Brooklyn film. Sheree, Phaedra and Eva are the only pass housewives they’d consider returning, but it’s not set in stone any would actually come back. Her source also said the reunion is “trash.” Hopefully they can put their thinking caps in. They still have plenty of time before filming. It’s amazing that Atlanta has so much big talent on various reality shows, but the show that out Atlanta on the map can’t get anybody. To me that speaks to casting and their overall production team.