@DRW50 asked me a question in the ATWT thread and it made me remember something that BTG did in Season One that, looking at it now...doesn't seem to make much sense.

When June first appeared and seemed to have some sort of mental health issue (which magically disappeared), she told her personal story, that turned out to be Jessica Griffin's story on As The World Turns. In that context, Jessica was treated as a fictional character on a fictional show. The next season, Hayley is mentioning Barbara Ryan Originals as though it were a designer brand that she always dreamed of wearing. Is Oakdale real or fictional? Are the residents of Oakdale real or fictional? What are the writers doing?

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by DramatistDreamer

They're shrugging it off. I knew they would eventually. I even said so a few months back, when the June reference last came up in the GL thread.

Mentioning ATWT as a fictional show back then as a gag was cute but a mistake IMO. It's better to keep the P&G/CBS soaps all in universe past and present together just in case. I said no one in the audience would really care if they decided to step across the other side of the line and kept these soaps canon to each other again, and I think that's probably true. And as DRW noted, it's far from the first time it's happened.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Vee

4-14

Let me take a moment to note...that I thought it was cute that Bill and Hayley were matching (though Hayley had on her leopard print to show her personality was still there). A cute little design detail. And well done since I didn't notice until halfway through the episode, but the duality of Hayley having to balance pleasing Bill with having to please Lynette, too. I see what you did there, Show!!!

A good episode. Though not as good as Monday's. I just think I will never be a fan of having episodes where all the plots move at the same pace and that pace is 'just a bit.' It works for the plots one likes, but if it's a plot you don't like...it's ugh. Broken record here...but pick a main story for the week...with other stories (B and C plots) around it and let it flow. At this point, it makes me think the writers are self-sabotaging by keeping all the stories at the same slow pace. Even though now that I wrote that...it's very B&B when B&B has nothing going on (not the case on the show right now).

For the plots I liked...

The aforementioned Hayley storyline. I continue to love that Bill has gotten his suspicions. And his making moves is putting even more screws to Hayley. I TOTALLY enjoyed they got Maurice Kerry's foine military body out of that shirt. (sidenote: so I guess no wife, but babymama after all then? per his backstory). I do feel Hayley's storyline has a flow to it again and is moving apace.

Anita's news. Loved the Sharon cameo. Loved Anita's talk to Dani. Same, Dani...cuz...shouldn't Nicole had sat with her? And of course...so far, so good on the cancer shrinking!!! One round down, two to go. It is great to have some hope in that storyline.

For the plots I don't liked...

Surprising, I was not caring for Chels and Naomi. Which is odd for me. We don't get enough scenes between the sisters.

Plasma ring storyline. A no-move day so ugh.

1 hour ago, Taoboi said:

Anita's news. Loved the Sharon cameo. Loved Anita's talk to Dani. Same, Dani...cuz...shouldn't Nicole had sat with her? And of course...so far, so good on the cancer shrinking!!! One round down, two to go. It is great to have some hope in that storyline.

Tamara Tunie makes everything work. Still, did you buy it that Anita would call this grand family meeting to tell them she was going to get her cancer results? I didn't. I don't think Anita would worry them like this in advance when there was a chance the results would be positive.

1 hour ago, ranger1rg said:

Those comment from Ted came out of nowhere. None of their scenes gave that to us, so it felt like a 180 turn in the writing.

Are they moving Ted back into Nicole's orbit? That's also a bad idea. She's also (poorly) juggling two men, and a third won't make that story work any better.

Yeah, sure seems like it. I personally think it's a major mistake because Ted actually hasn't done anything to actually win Nicole back and frankly, he doesn't really deserve her. Also if Ted and Nicole are back together, then where does that leave Kial? I thought he was brought on for Nicole but if that isn't going to happen then I don't see much use for Kial as a character anyway.

I actually don't think they have messed with Shanice's personality much myself. But I do think Ted's comment to Nicole came out of nowhere. I agree it was a 180 from how he has been behaving for weeks, which is purely falling for Shanice. It's been good for Keith Robinson tbh, he and EJ work well together.

21 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

Tamara Tunie makes everything work. Still, did you buy it that Anita would call this grand family meeting to tell them she was going to get her cancer results? I didn't. I don't think Anita would worry them like this in advance when there was a chance the results would be positive.

Honestly? Yes. How many Dupree family meetings did we get last year over something as simple as a pen dropping?

The Duprees do family meetings for a ton of shít that should be an email. It's so silly.