Yeah… I think it’s time for Gio to give Dante a punch.

There’s never been a reason for this tension between the two of them. It’s been unnecessary from the very beginning.

I actually felt a little bad for Molly too lol I hope this thing with Britt is just a temporary roadblock or something. #Brody didn’t work the first time, I don’t think it’s gonna work now.

As for Laura, this is what happens you’re besties with crime bosses, Mayor Collins 😂😂😂

2 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Yeah… I think it’s time for Gio to give Dante a punch.

😂😂😂

Gio should be getting closer to Chase and calling him Dad. it would drive Dante nuts.😂

1 minute ago, Soapsuds said:

Gio should be getting closer to Chase and calling him Dad. it would drive Dante nuts.😂

And Dante would deserve it too 😂

The whole Dante thing is clearly just there for an obstacle. If they cared about Dante we would see maybe Lulu pull him aside and ask what’s really going on. It would give him a chance to say he lost her, then he lost Sam, and he’s afraid to let Rocco grow up and get into trouble and lose him too. And even better would be him maybe admitting that he’s still angry with Brook Lynn and Lois and it’s being displaced on Gio. And he doesn’t know what to do with Gio at all because he keeps messing up.

You know, psychologically explore these characters like they used to! Also DZ is a good actor that doesn’t deserve to be trotted out just to be an asshat. Much like Liz is an awfully important character to just stand behind that desk waiting to snap at Britt.

All of these 20-second scenes are hard to take.

18 hours ago, Vee said:

I would consider a few ideas for Michael, including someone new (like a driven Asian doctor in the Patrick or Monica mold). Serena is a good option but one who I think might be a bit too pat and obvious initially - two core kids. Maybe if you play up the business aspect between them with her being a cosmetics tycoon/philanthropist like Dominique or Lucy. I do also think there is room for Michael and Willow to have hate sex lol, or for her to keep trying to land him again before she inevitably flames out for good. Then there's the Zoe Ward thing Guza almost did but who never made it onscreen. In the case of Serena and Zoe you have characters who are essentially new, blank slates. Same goes with creating someone from scratch.

I like those ideas too. I just think Michael needs a love interest that isn't a tortured heroine, which he's been getting since Abby, Starr, Sabrina, etc. I would pair him with a new character who is a Lucy Coe-esque/Sarah Brown's Carly-esque type ambitious schemer, in my opinion. Someone who could motivate him professionally and sexually too. And you can have Carly not like her because she sees "herself" in this girl 30 years ago. While Sonny, who sees something more positive in her, would be more supportive but would call Carly out on her dislike of her, reminding her of how she was.

Meanwhile, you can have Willow being jealous of her with her and Michael going back and forth for a few months until hate sex occurs.

18 hours ago, carolineg said:

Yeah, I have been saying for a while now that Scotty could easily take Martin's place. He obviously wouldn't be related to Laura, but he could even take Martin's place as a confidante or talk to for her. The history with Lucy and Tracy makes it much easier to sell a romance since 5 minutes will be devoted to it a month and there's at least history there to make it believable with minimal effort.

Outside of looking the part, I don't see it. Paige Herschell isn't a strong enough actress to take on that pivotal of a role. Although as I believe @Vee has been saying for years, Serena would be a good love interest for Michael in theory.

Well, I did say decent Serena. 🤣 But I think Michael/Jacinda is a stopgap until Michael/Willow see the light or they bring back Sasha with baby Daisy.

53 minutes ago, Forever8 said:

But I think Michael/Jacinda is a stopgap until Michael/Willow see the light or they bring back Sasha with baby Daisy.

Both are which are terrible ideas for long-term pairings IMO, but definitely something the show would do.

57 minutes ago, Forever8 said:

I just think Michael needs a love interest that isn't a tortured heroine, which he's been getting since Abby, Starr, Sabrina, etc. I would pair him with a new character who is a Lucy Coe-esque/Sarah Brown's Carly-esque type ambitious schemer, in my opinion. Someone who could motivate him professionally and sexually too. And you can have Carly not like her because she sees "herself" in this girl 30 years ago. While Sonny, who sees something more positive in her, would be more supportive but would call Carly out on her dislike of her, reminding her of how she was.

My friends know my longtime idea for Michael (going back to Chad's earliest years) was actually putting him with... Maxie. It came out of Chad being such a good straight man and a bit Bambi-eyed, particularly in the early 2010s, and would create a sort of unusual sort of fish out of water situation for Kirsten's Maxie as having to perceive herself as 'the older woman' while also being the screwball comedienne. And they'd get involved first in an unwise ONS and then business. I held onto that concept for a long time lol. I still think it might work someday with Rory Gibson who's very different but it is definitely not front of my mind anymore. Today the idea of putting Michael with a driven physician who matches his intensity and doesn't need him the way all his other love interests have (and may have a dark past or ties to the Asian Quarter, etc.), or someone like Serena or Zoe is more my speed atm.

I would consider remodeling Serena as a Lucy-type in business but I would want her to be less of a flighty schemer than her mother, especially since I would be introducing her adopted sister Christina under some other name as a lead and she would be the real troublemaker (an activist writer and possibly cracked therapist). Serena would be sort of the light-sided counterpart. I would also want her to be competent, and they too rarely show Lucy to be that today which is a shame. But maybe Serena could swoop in to help her mother take back majority control of Deception from all these interlopers (BLQ, etc.) who keep putting her down every time there are literally any workplace scenes. That shít drives me nuts.

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11 minutes ago, Vee said:

Both are which are terrible ideas for long-term pairings IMO, but definitely something the show would do.

My friends know my longtime idea for Michael (going back to Chad's earliest years) was actually putting him with... Maxie. It came out of Chad being such a good straight man and a bit Bambi-eyed, particularly in the early 2010s, and would create a sort of unusual sort of fish out of water situation for Kirsten's Maxie as having to perceive herself as 'the older woman' while also being the screwball comedienne. And they'd get involved first in an unwise ONS and then business. I held onto that concept for a long time lol. I still think it might work someday with Rory Gibson who's very different but it is definitely not front of my mind anymore. Today the idea of putting Michael with a driven physician who matches his intensity and doesn't need him the way all his other love interests have (and may have a dark past or ties to the Asian Quarter, etc.), or someone like Serena or Zoe is more my speed atm.

I would consider remodeling Serena as a Lucy-type in business but I would want her to be less of a flighty schemer than her mother, especially since I would be introducing her adopted sister Christina under some other name as a lead and she would be the real troublemaker (an activist writer and possibly cracked therapist). Serena would be sort of the light-sided counterpart. I would also want her to be competent, and they too rarely show Lucy to be that today which is a shame. But maybe Serena could swoop in to help her mother take back majority control of Deception from all these interlopers (BLQ, etc.) who keep putting her down every time there are literally any workplace scenes. That shít drives me nuts.

I always wanted Christina to come back as perhaps nicknamed "Tina" or even Chris" and have her be in the healthcare while you'll see the nature/nurture side of Lucy/Julie of her too.

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3 hours ago, Vee said:

Both are which are terrible ideas for long-term pairings IMO, but definitely something the show would do.

My friends know my longtime idea for Michael (going back to Chad's earliest years) was actually putting him with... Maxie. It came out of Chad being such a good straight man and a bit Bambi-eyed, particularly in the early 2010s, and would create a sort of unusual sort of fish out of water situation for Kirsten's Maxie as having to perceive herself as 'the older woman' while also being the screwball comedienne. And they'd get involved first in an unwise ONS and then business. I held onto that concept for a long time lol. I still think it might work someday with Rory Gibson who's very different but it is definitely not front of my mind anymore. Today the idea of putting Michael with a driven physician who matches his intensity and doesn't need him the way all his other love interests have (and may have a dark past or ties to the Asian Quarter, etc.), or someone like Serena or Zoe is more my speed atm.

I would consider remodeling Serena as a Lucy-type in business but I would want her to be less of a flighty schemer than her mother, especially since I would be introducing her adopted sister Christina under some other name as a lead and she would be the real troublemaker (an activist writer and possibly cracked therapist). Serena would be sort of the light-sided counterpart. I would also want her to be competent, and they too rarely show Lucy to be that today which is a shame. But maybe Serena could swoop in to help her mother take back majority control of Deception from all these interlopers (BLQ, etc.) who keep putting her down every time there are literally any workplace scenes. That shít drives me nuts.

Lol. The Maxie/Michael pairing. I could still see it with Rory, but he's much more intense than Chad and there is no way Maxie (if she comes back) is getting away from Nathan. I have a hard time seeing Rory's Michael with Willow again as well. Definitely need to hire someone new.

I know I have probably asked this question, but has Christina ever been mentioned on GH? I assume she exists outside of the PC universe although I can't recall anyone talking about her. Probably when Lucy first reappeared.

4 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Lol. The Maxie/Michael pairing. I could still see it with Rory, but he's much more intense than Chad and there is no way Maxie (if she comes back) is getting away from Nathan.

I know I have probably asked this question, but has Christina ever been mentioned on GH? I assume she exists outside of the PC universe although I can't recall anyone talking about her. Probably when Lucy first reappeared.

I think she's been mentioned exactly once during the course of the messy PC revisit in 2013, possibly only in reference to either Lucy and Kevin mentioning having two daughters. I wouldn't swear by it, but nonetheless AFAIC PC is canon despite the murky situation surrounding it to this day. Which I think at best you can reference in a line or two of funny dialogue. (And at some point in future I would like to make reference to Livvie Locke, and possibly even give her a kid.)

I cannot imagine Maxie being chained to that inanimate steel ingot for the rest of our days. That pairing was so dull even the first time round. The Spixie revisit has been lovely and more mature, and I would much prefer keeping them together and giving them a proper wedding.

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14 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

And Dante would deserve it too 😂

I really cannot believe that they are going back to the Dante vs Gio angle again when it was already forced to begin with.

13 hours ago, titan1978 said:

The whole Dante thing is clearly just there for an obstacle. If they cared about Dante we would see maybe Lulu pull him aside and ask what’s really going on. It would give him a chance to say he lost her, then he lost Sam, and he’s afraid to let Rocco grow up and get into trouble and lose him too. And even better would be him maybe admitting that he’s still angry with Brook Lynn and Lois and it’s being displaced on Gio. And he doesn’t know what to do with Gio at all because he keeps messing up.

You know, psychologically explore these characters like they used to! Also DZ is a good actor that doesn’t deserve to be trotted out just to be an asshat. Much like Liz is an awfully important character to just stand behind that desk waiting to snap at Britt.

+1

2 minutes ago, Vee said:

I think she's been mentioned exactly once during the course of the messy PC revisit in 2013, possibly only in reference to either Lucy and Kevin mentioning having two daughters. I wouldn't swear by it, but nonetheless AFAIC PC is canon despite the murky situation surrounding it to this day. Which I think at best you can reference in a line or two of funny dialogue. (And at some point in future I would like to make reference to Livvie Locke, and possibly even give her a kid.)

I cannot imagine Maxie being chained to that inanimate steel ingot for the rest of our days. That pairing was so dull even the first time round.

I think I do remember Lucy talking about two daughters years ago when everyone thought she was crazing talking about vampires. Anyhow, it's strange to me how far Lucy and Kevin moved apart into different orbits. I almost forget they were a root for couple on their own show.

Considering I don't think Christina was ever mentioned by name the show could easily change it. A total blank slate character.

I don't remember disliking the Maxie/Nathan pairing. I really didn't care one way or the other. I swear I thought they were pretty popular. Not Spixie heyday popular but had a following that wasn't just on twitter lol.

2 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Anyhow, it's strange to me how far Lucy and Kevin moved apart into different orbits. I almost forget they were a root for couple on their own show.

Considering I don't think Christina was ever mentioned by name the show could easily change it. A total blank slate character.

I don't remember disliking the Maxie/Nathan pairing. I really didn't care one way or the other. I swear I thought they were pretty popular. Not Spixie heyday popular but had a following that wasn't just on twitter lol.

Kevin and Lucy were a supercouple IMO. I think it's shameful what's happened. I'd still put them back together. I don't care!

I would just say Christina goes by another name now. Maybe Julie or Julia, idk. If it was up to me she'd use Chris/Kris but with Kristina around at present that's not viable.

Maxie and Nathan did have a fanbase, but there's no accounting for taste. I personally don't think that fanbase ever neared the heights of Spixie or anything pre-2010s, though and tbqh that's the baseline I judge by. Many of the couples since have been mid and low popularity at best. And I was not some huge Spixie fan back in the day - I was happy they were apart for a long time.

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8 minutes ago, Vee said:

Kevin and Lucy were a supercouple IMO. I think it's shameful what's happened. I'd still put them back together. I don't care!

I would just say Christina goes by another name now. Maybe Julie or Julia, idk. If it was up to me she'd use Chris/Kris but with Kristina around at present that's not viable.

Maxie and Nathan did have a fanbase, but there's no accounting for taste. I personally don't think that fanbase ever neared the heights of Spixie or anything pre-2010s, though and tbqh that's the baseline I judge by. Many of the couples since have been mid and low popularity at best. And I was not some huge Spixie fan back in the day - I was happy they were apart for a long time.

I would have put Kevin/Lucy back together years ago, but I guess Laura needs her absent husband. What's stranger to me is that Kevin/Lucy don't ever interact and it's like that entire time period was erased. I know the show rarely uses JL or LH and is limited in that sense. I seriously can't even recall the last time they shared a scene lol.

I don't know what Christina's middle name is, but that would be any easy name to substitute.

I always thought Spixie was close in popularity to Dante/Lulu. Not Patrick/Robin level, which would be the last true attempt at a GH supercouple in my mind, but viewers were heavily invested in the pairing. I still assume both Dante/Lulu and Spinelli/Maxie will be together in the end. Although at this point I am not sure if Dante even likes Lulu let alone loves her.