3 hours ago, Vee said:

It's crazy how Gio/Emma are not being treated like an A-story youth couple. I won't go into my typical schtick about how much they'd play these two 20 years ago, let alone 30. Neither actor would get any sleep, you'd have to bring the Monty coke tables back.

This is crazy to me because of all the shows, you could always count on GH to recognise when something was hitting with the audience and then run with it. You can say whatever about how it helped turn GH into the Sonny show, but once they saw they had something with Sonny and Brenda, they had them on constantly. Same with Robin and Stone, or even Georgie and Dillon.

About Ava and Nina, I don't mind either of them at this point, but I wouldn't really miss them if they were gone. I do feel like GH also used to be better about cutting the dead weight and not letting people linger around for years doing nothing. Letting people like Mac and Ned hang around is one thing, but most of these people who showed up in the past decade could leave and it have such minimal impact on the show.

Edited October 11Oct 11 by AdelaideCate007

22 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

-- So more scenes with Sonny and the D.A. Maurice Benard might love that actress, but the struggle was real for him today as he worked overtime to remember his lines. 

-- Portia is pregnant, but I guess we'll never hear abortion mentioned. You know, the way we would in real life. 

 

 

I don't why Sonny has to damn near stalk this woman to get her attention.  I would be super mad if I was dragged around town to go to a fake meeting with Sonny stuttering.  And I openly hate DA bot.

Portia has the means and lifestyle to at least have her late in life baby. I don't think abortion would be her first thought.  I didn't get the sense she didn't want the baby but was more unsure about the paternity.  Plus, it's GH and they LOVE babies.  I don't think anyone's had an abortion since Lulu in the early aughts.

2 minutes ago, AdelaideCate007 said:

This is crazy to me because of all the shows, you could always count on GH to recognise when something was hitting with the audience and then run with it. You can say whatever about how it helped turn GH into the Sonny show, but once they saw they had something with Sonny and Brenda, they had them on constantly. Same with Robin and Stone, or even Georgie and Dillon.

Right? This is a soap! They let Gio cook and he has become a decent actor and still had his natural charm. Emma came on a little bit of a cliche, but they wisely made her driven by her own sense of social justice and not just a bitch to spite Anna and Robin. They slow burned them right off the stove. And from everywhere I have been, they both have gained popularity with several segments of the current audience.

Part of the reason soaps always used to take advantage of this was to ride the train until one or both of them don’t renew their contracts and leave for the big time. The other part was they are cheap! They burn them up when they cost the least!

38 minutes ago, AdelaideCate007 said:

About Ava and Nina, I don't mind either of them at this point, but I wouldn't really miss them if they were gone. I do feel like GH also used to be better about cutting the dead weight and not letting people linger around for years doing nothing. Letting people like Mac and Ned hang around is one thing, but most of these people who showed up in the past decade could leave and it have such minimal impact on the show.

It's become the Frank Family Welfare Program. But I'd say that much more about characters like Sasha, pre-Drew Willow, Michael Easton, Roger Howarth, Chase, Curtis, Jordan, Molly, T.J., etc. It took everything short of an act of God to finally get Sasha, Howarth and Finn out. I do think Nina has run her course whereas I think Ava could still go on in the proper gear, but it is insane that you have so many of these other pointless characters who have been here either a decade or over (or close to a decade) and their history amounts to very little. It's Uncle Frank's house.

And yeah, they're squandering/sidelining Gio and Emma atm the same as they did Sprina. But with less racism!

Edited October 11Oct 11 by Vee

7 hours ago, Vee said:

He's 'dead' and Nikolas is gone, so there's not much to currently mention unless she and Laura get into a nauseating heart to heart or something. But I also always hated that relationship, much as I hate most things about Britt. Or as Spencer used to call her, 'Bwitt!'

Because their relationship is part of her character's identity.  When Jason came back, there were scenes in the which he talked about Britt, both when Anna told him about her death, and also later.  When Luke and Laura came back in 1993, they had scenes in which Luke talked about Robert and Robin discussed how her father had always said they would return some day.

Edited October 11Oct 11 by StevieM

9 minutes ago, StevieM said:

Because their relationship is part of her character's identity.  When Jason came back, there were scenes in the which he talked about Brit, both when Anna told him about her death, and also later.  When Luke and Laura came back in 1993, they had scenes in which Luke talked about Robert and Robin discussed how her father had always said they would return some day.

Is it though?  I remember some bonding, but would never correlate Britt with Spencer.  It's certainly not part of her (useless) identity.  

Even if it was, I certainly wouldn't have Britt wax poetically about Spencer.  That's not relevant in today's GH.

GH completely blew it with the Sprina storyline. They had gold but kept holding back and then holding back some more -- teasing us as if they had unlimited time when we all knew NAC would be gone when his contract expired.

The same thing is happening with Gio and Emma. It's drip-drip-drip -- again as if they have unlimited time. It's insane, and they're blowing it again.

50 minutes ago, StevieM said:

Because their relationship is part of her character's identity. 

Eh. Not really.

29 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

The same thing is happening with Gio and Emma. It's drip-drip-drip -- again as if they have unlimited time. It's insane, and they're blowing it again.

Again, I think it's a question of their priorities which I mentioned a few posts back. Which are completely fúcked.

8 minutes ago, Vee said:

Eh. Not really.

Same.  The Spencer/Britt relationship is silly.  But actually more viable than the Britt/Rocco relationship.

1 hour ago, ranger1rg said:

GH completely blew it with the Sprina storyline. They had gold but kept holding back and then holding back some more -- teasing us as if they had unlimited time when we all knew NAC would be gone when his contract expired.

The same thing is happening with Gio and Emma. It's drip-drip-drip -- again as if they have unlimited time. It's insane, and they're blowing it again.

NAC could have stayed on the show for ten years and I don't think the show would have done more with Sprina than they did. 

Clearly some of the same factors are not present with Gio and Emma, but one still is - Joss. Joss was meant to be the chosen one for the powers that be, even if that now somehow means Debbie Does WSB. Emma, who is mostly related to people who people who will never have a major role on the show again, was not. I think she was meant to be there as a bitch or brat, maybe with some vulnerability, but not a central heroine.  

32 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Emma, who is mostly related to people who people who will never have a major role on the show again, was not. I think she was meant to be there as a bitch or brat, maybe with some vulnerability, but not a central heroine.  

I actually think Emma is great as a spiky, sometimes bitchy heroine or slightly grayer character, who I think can and should get into more trouble or with sketchier people, and darker men, to amp up the drama for her and Gio and create real obstacles and rivals. I don't want them to soften her up too much yet because then she becomes Robin Jr., I'd want her to keep making and getting into some trouble. But she also comes by all this naturally - Bruner's dry wit really sings especially when she comes across people she doesn't like (such as Joss).

That being said, yes, Frank is taking another run at making Joss happen so Gio and Emma are getting the rock. Which as we all keep saying, is soap opera malpractice.

Edited October 11Oct 11 by Vee

2 minutes ago, Vee said:

I actually think Emma is great as a spiky, sometimes bitchy heroine or slightly grayer character, who I think can and should get into more trouble or with sketchier people, and darker men, to amp up the drama for her and Gio and create real obstacles and rivals. I don't want them to soften her up too much yet. But she also comes by all this naturally - Bruner's dry wit really sings especially when she comes across people she doesn't like (such as Joss).

That being said, yes, Frank is taking another run at making Joss happen so Gio and Emma are getting the rock. Which as we all keep saying, is soap opera malpractice.

That's a good concept for Emma - not sure of the last young woman along those lines. Maybe Maxie, but I never thought Maxie was well-written outside of a few individual moments.

I wonder if they even had any plans for Emma or if they just liked the actress and gave her a part. 

Maybe at the time she was cast they were going to have Emma/Gio/Joss. I could see that happening when Vaughn goes to model jock straps in the great beyond.

7 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

That's a good concept for Emma - not sure of the last young woman along those lines. Maybe Maxie, but I never thought Maxie was well-written outside of a few individual moments.

I would make sure she's not too domesticated too quickly, which would probably turn some people off; her intro irked some folks but it didn't annoy me because I always saw Emma as trouble. I'd just quad her, Gio, Trina and Trina's new man (who I've dreamed up once too often already as Justus' scheming secret son, blah blah blah) out and have them fray their friendships and then swap partners for awhile. Emma would hook into the more ambitious, sly male while Gio and Trina would do their thing. But ultimately the endgame would be back to Gio and Emma. Emma has a good heart but grand or at times selfish visions, and the will to execute them which would make her liable to scheme. (There is Spencer to consider down the road for all parties, but I wouldn't want to deal with that headache right away.)

It was obvious from the jump they planned to put Emma with Gio; I think she had scenes with him on her first day. But I don't think FV anticipated them or her becoming bigger than Joss, which is clearly a problem for him.

Edited October 11Oct 11 by Vee

The show has been so invested in Eden McCoy for years.  Since she was a literal child.  I don't hate Joss or McCoy, but she's limited.  She doesn't have any spark to care about her.   I'd say she's serviceable as a B character, but you can't build a teen/young adult scene on her.  The show pushes viable leads like Trina and Emma out of the way for Joss and it's never really clicked.

She's always giving me young JMB Lulu vibes where the show would just throw anything at her and it finally worked with Dante.