4 hours ago, GLATWT88 said:

Those character interactions wouldn't have been prevented if the secret was revealed to the audience through Martin's dream. Maybe we would have understood why Martin doesn't want to tell his family or maybe even empathize with his course of action a little more. We could have seen Martin struggle with his decision to hold the press conference. However, keeping the secret hidden from the audience this long, has taken the life out of certain scenes. The scene with Kenny and Smitty was so brief and revealed nothing. It could have been so juicy had we known the secret and we saw Kenny taunting Smitty about it. Both men having a real face off. The men gathered at Bill's office as many have mentioned before was pointless. All that to have Martin have a breakdown so nothing else would be shown just to keep the secret under wraps. Now we have had multiple scenes with Smitty and Jacob and Vernon and Bill that don't go anywhere and regurgitate mostly the same thing all for the sake of this secret not being out to the viewer. Ted who knows his son's secret is MIA and being played by Leslie. This would have been a great time to build that father/son relationship we really haven't seen from Martin and Ted. I mean Vernon is pretty much the paternal role in Martin's life. 

My understanding in the beginning and based on conversations that Martin had was that he wasn't fully aware of his dream or what happened that night. Otherwise, why would he go talk to his mother and say he's been having weird dreams and not sure what they're about. When Nicole told him to seek help, he knew not to because Vernon had just told him he couldn't talk to anyone about it. He had conversations with Vernon that implied he didn't know what happened. When he first confronted Kenny, he wasn't sure what the whole "What color is your money?" thing was about. I think it would have been interesting around now...maybe a week or two ago, Martin would have at least had the realization of what this dream was all about. The secret wouldn't need to come out to everyone, but it would have kept some momentum going. Right now, we are in this weird limbo of reveal and nothing really moving for the sake of keeping the secret still secret.

It was a little ridiculous for all these men to get Kenny where they wanted him to then botch the plan and have Kenny parade all over town like he didn't have a hit on him. It's fine that Randy didn't go through with it...but is Joey a criminal or is he cosplaying as one? You mean to tell me Big Bad Joey has never had someone offed and that Randy, his right hand, has never had to do something this questionable? There is where sometimes I feel the creators are too close to their characters. Maybe someone didn't want to make Randy an intentional murderer, but at least make Kenny's escape something more believable. I know there aren't many sets, but this could have been done in a more interesting way. 

 

 

Thanks for this. I co-sign To ALL of it.

 

5 minutes ago, janea4old said:

I think Brandon Claybon is doing a great job.

Same! He and MM were darn good today

1 minute ago, All My Shadows said:

Yes. I’ve been watching only here and there for a while now, but this was set up in Week 1, and I feel like by Week 2, most of us here at least knew that Martin killed someone either accidentally or in self defense. All we learned today was that they were racists. In the beginning, my expectation was that there’d be some hidden twist in the event itself, a connection to another character or story that we didn’t see coming but still makes sense. What carries on from this is wondering if Smitty will stand his ground and really leave Martin and will they all get off for Kenny’s murder. What we learned today has no bearing on either thread.

I thought there would be another element that would cause ripples or have other ramifications. I think if they were going the route they did, it would have been better to reveal part of the dream to the audience right away. The part where Martin is beating someone with a lug wrench. It would make us have some sort of doubt about what Martin had done and why, because it comes across as really aggressive. It also would have worked to raise suspicion of Martin, because his behavior has been quite impulsive and abrupt. Finally, we learn that he was just defending himself. 

I always assumed there was an element of racism since Kenny showed up and would say certain remarks. 

I will also have to disagree with some of yall and say BC was not that great. He had moments where he was fine and moments where he was not good. 

15 minutes ago, janea4old said:

The ongoing anguish was the point, and also Smitty being angry that Martin didn't warn him about Kenny.   If Martin had told Smitty right away, there would not have been everything Smitty is feeling now.

Smitty was already in anguish about being lied to and dismissed consistently by Martin. The audience knowing the secret wouldn't change this. The press conference also seems dumb in retrospect, because it led to Martin going home to tell Smitty first like he should. There would have been deeper ramifications had Martin still decided to hold the press conference and reveal everything. He would have to be held accountable in some way, there might even be a trial, Smitty would be further hurt that everyone had to find out before he did. But instead, Martin is now involved in a further murder (although I am still skeptical about Kenny being dead). 

I have no idea what's going to happen next (and I'm glad that I don't know).
But my speculation is that Martin will eventually have that press conference -- at some point.

46 minutes ago, janea4old said:

I have no idea what's going to happen next (and I'm glad that I don't know).
But my speculation is that Martin will eventually have that press conference -- at some point.

Oh sure, the mighty Dupree are going to rally around Martin and at the end of his press conference they're going to chant Murderers Together. Family Forever. Duprees Strong!

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I wonder if Martin will eventually have to stand trial for murder.  In the case of the first thug, that would be self defense.  In Kenneth’s case, he is an accessory to murder as are a lot of other characters.

Eventually, the disposal of two dead bodies will come up.

I wonder if Martin will eventually have to stand trial for murder.  In the case of the first thug, that would be self defense.  In Kenneth’s case, he is an accessory to murder as are a lot of other characters.

Eventually, the disposal of two dead bodies will come up.

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I wonder if Martin will eventually have to stand trial for murder.  In the case of the first thug, that would be self defense.  In Kenneth’s case, he is an accessory to murder as are a lot of other characters.

Eventually, the disposal of two dead bodies will come up.