BTG: May 2025 Discussion Thread

[Vanguardian53]

It should be better for a show airing in 2025. But that's just my take.

[DemetriKane]

I couldn't agree more. It's all subjective.

[Soaplovers]

Considering that a soap opera hasn't been launched in over 25 years, I think the show is doing well.

In 2025, you're not going to get a soap opera on the level of soaps you watched before the 1990s for a variety of reasons.

- All scenes are filmed out of order.  No longer do shows do the live to tape process.

- No longer are there rehearsals before filming the episodes.

- Most of the greats retired/passed away without teaching a lot of the new generation how to produce or write a soap opera in the pre 2000 way.

Also, this isn't filmed where soap operas were filmed so the show is using local talent that is hitting it out of the park.  It reminds me of the CBN soap Another life that used local talent in the Virginia beach area.

Lastly, soaps take several months to get going.. and I think the show is in good shape after 56 episodes (at least compared to other soaps that started in the late 80s and 90s like Generations, SunSet Beach, Passions, etc)

[Toups]

LOL!! Kat seems to be a better at putting things together than the actual police.  She's definitely more interesting like this compared to her real job, whatever it is. 

Those Eva/Tomas could've been so much better with a better actor because their discussion about parents was pretty good.

[Taoboi]

Come on in! The water (and my comments which you know how I write from the HW Thread

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 ) is fine!!! I am sure my comments should help you along nicely.

 

And I think you know better than most, I can be fair.  But I can't remember if you were for or against slow burns...cuz Month 2 is full of them. As for characters, I do feel you will love Eva and the SilkPress. And Nosy Nurse since you love Housewives. I feel it's done a good job of giving old school soap, but modernizing it at the same time. Beats ARE getting hit. There's A story (The SilkPress storyline being the best paced so far), B plots, and even C plots. The show is still finding its rhythm, but I don't out and out hate anyone and everyone has gotten time to shine. ANNNND it is having the best May Sweeps so far from what I've viewing (I am behind on DAYS though and GH and I are on break mostly). 

 

But...I agree with others. It has been VERY subjective up in here so you should come in and make up your own mind. I of course, look forward to your thoughts.

[Vanguardian53]

This show was a gamble on every level. It just doesn't have months of time to pull in the audience. I stated this before it ever hit the airwaves.

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[Vee]

Vanguard spent the year before the show aired declaring that BTG was anti-Black 'guaranteed trash' for not using his fanfiction ideas. (Ask him about it, he won't admit it though it's in his posting history across his multiple accounts of the same name.)

He now spends most of his posts spamming old clips pleading for them to hire people from bad Tyler Perry soaps. There is a lot to fix about BTG IMO, but there is also better, more valid and serious critical discussion to be had with other posters who are actually not furious that the show is renewed til at least the fall of next year.

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[Vanguardian53]

I have no idea WHY you keep talking about me. But I'm right, and you know it.

[Liberty City]

Mm-hmm, 100% on point. And on account number two or three, at this point?

[Vee]

Oh, let's click the blocked message for a moment and see what you have to say here. What are you right about re: Beyond the Gates? Be explicit with everyone here on the forum about what you mean. Is it guaranteed trash, like you said months before it first aired? Simple yes or no question. And if so, why other than 'I am not writing it'?

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[Rmodelboy]

Tracy looks like Hayley who looks like June and they all look like Debbi Morgan

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[GLATWT88]

Ashley and Derek have to be some of the lamest 30-somethings around. How does Derek, a grown man, think it's reasonable to crash on his married friend's couch? You're too old for this. 

Ashley claims to be Type A, but she's missing work for a minor fight? Also, the acting has been rough the past two days...and Andre out here with the flaring nostrils having a whole emotional moment because Jen is out here being dramatic. Andre you're crying like you're the one fighting with Derek. I like this man less and less. These three stay PMO.

I'm excited for this Articulette reunion. This girls better be carrying some bones about Anita and Vernon. 

Not Tomas being mad at Kat because she's on track to figure out who ran down Laura. Tomas straight threw Kat under the bus too. He's playing both sides and wants the cake and to eat it too. Not to say, Kat hasn't been relentless about Eva, but she wasn't wrong to be suspicious and now with Leslie's manipulative lies why wouldn't Kat be suspicious. 

 

[ranger1rg]

-- Much better show than yesterday, although that was a low bar to surpass.

-- Kat as detective is fun, and I appreciate that Jacob isn't made to look like an idiot while Kat gets it all right.

-- The Anita/Tracy stuff was OK, although awfully cliched so far. I understand the Supremes stuff, but they need to do their own thing, too.

-- Tracy and Anita recited those lines about being together and finished in unison with "Articulettes strong." Sorry, that made no sense. The "________ strong" phrase didn't become a thing until the 2010's. No way were they saying it 25+ years ago.

-- Alex Alegria (Tomas) performs better with Eva than Kat.

-- Since Laura has an impeccable manicure while in the hospital, maybe she should take a couple minutes and do something with her hair. Why they're clearly styling her as "hospital patient," that doesn't jibe with those nails.

-- The Derek and Ashley stuff is SOOOO BAD that I'm captivated by it. Every scene is like watching a trainwreck. Are they letting middle schoolers write for that couple?

      Ashley responds like a 12 year old to everything. It's embarrassing. When Jacob told her to text Derek, she said "What if he doesn't answer?" Jesus. Every response she has comes off like an emotional release from a teenager.

      Derek continues to be the big lug who means well but just doesn't get it. He's written with zero depth. Still, I blame the writing for what we get from him more than I blame the writing for Ashley. Jen Jacob just isn't cutting it, and she's making a ton of wrong choices.

-- Any couple living in that 2x4 apartment would struggle. It's insane for Ashley to yell things like "It's MY place and these are all MY things." Girl, you live in a hole and don't even have a double bed.

 

[Jdee43]

I think at this point I'd rather see Ashley recast more than Derekt. They need someone more charismatic and authentic, who doesn't come off as "acting," especially if they have to carry this horrible writing.

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[GLATWT88]

Ashley's whole reaction has been embarrassing. To the point, I don't understand how Andre isn't completely put off by this behavior. But then again, Andre was out here breaking down with Ashley about this whole situation. *Screams into a pillow* It's so embarrassing! 

Derek gives off dumb jock vibes. He seems so unaware and confused by everything. Like how at your big age don't you think scrubbing something like stainless steel with a scouring pad is a bad idea? And why would you think to ask a married buddy to sleep on his couch. Both this characters are insufferable. Andre right up there with them, but I think that's more a me thing.