I think Trisha Mann-Grant is a great actress. 

But I personally don't want to see a villain all the time.  I can take villains in small doses.  Just because an actor is talented, doesn't mean their character should become on the show all the time.  I hated that when it happend with Sheila Carter and Kristen Blake DiMera.   
I just personally cannot stan a villain character.  I just cannot.

I can still admire the actor, and want her to win an Emmy, but I don't want the villain to be around long term.

Edited March 13Mar 13 by janea4old

3 minutes ago, janea4old said:

I think Trisha Mann-Grant is a great actress. 

But I personally don't want to see a villain all the time.  I can take villains in small doses.  Just because an actor is talented, doesn't mean their character should become on the show all the time.  I hated that when it happend with Sheila Carter and Kristen Blake DiMera.   
I just personally cannot stan a villain character.  I just cannot.

I can still admire the actor, and want her to win an Emmy, but I don't want the villain to be around long term.

What about a Roger Thorpe? Or Stefano DiMera?

I have no issues with a multi layered antagonist being on for a while. Or even dominating storylines. Absolutely no issue. Of course that can't be forever. 

Another case it will be if it was a badly written cartoon like modern day Sheila Carter. She is a lost cause.

 

Edited March 13Mar 13 by Maxim

56 minutes ago, EricMontreal22 said:

Ah, that's fair, because I totally missed that detail--because the times I looked around, she was the only one I saw.

No worries. It now gives me something to look for when I start my rewatch.  

 

12 minutes ago, Cheap21 said:

ALL the black ones are at least.

Hahahahaha!!! Not me seeing this as I get to the scene with Vanessa's OTHER black chocolate who according to online fans is Tommy from All the Queen's Men...a show I need to finish binging for the chocolate and Eva the Diva. 

Three weeks of Beyond the Gates and my thoughts so far:

Andre/Dani ❤️‍🔥 

Sean Freeman (Andre) is the show's hotness.

Tricia Mann-Grant (Leslie aka Silk Press Sheila) is the show's breakout star.

Edited March 14Mar 14 by kalbir

9 minutes ago, janea4old said:

I think Trisha Mann-Grant is a great actress. 

But I personally don't want to see a villain all the time.  I can take villains in small doses.  Just because an actor is talented, doesn't mean their character should become on the show all the time.  I hated that when it happend with Sheila Carter and Kristen Blake DiMera.   
I just personally cannot stan a villain character.  I just cannot.

I can still admire the actor, and want her to win an Emmy, but I don't want the villain to be around long term.

I agree. When I definitely love my villains more than they can weave in and out of story because you know when they do show up, there are going to be serious stakes. Yes, I'm looking at you, Mama Pope. lol.

 

It's why I liked when Kristen Blake first came back in 2014. Those first few years, she was weaved in and out of storyline with major results. It's almost sad now that she's permanently on the canvas because she had to be watered down or not taken as seriously as they could and should be due to her history. I would hate to see that happen with Silk Press Sheila. And I would hate to see intelligent characters dumbed down just to keep her though I now adore the actress. 

14 minutes ago, janea4old said:

I think Trisha Mann-Grant is a great actress. 

But I personally don't want to see a villain all the time.  I can take villains in small doses.  Just because an actor is talented, doesn't mean their character should become on the show all the time.  I hated that when it happend with Sheila Carter and Kristen Blake DiMera.   
I just personally cannot stan a villain character.  I just cannot.

I can still admire the actor, and want her to win an Emmy, but I don't want the villain to be around long term.

 

9 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

What about a Roger Thorpe? Or Stefano DiMera?

I feel exactly the same about Stefano DiMera.  Should have been occasional villain recurring very sporadically.  A storyline arc, and then gone for a few years.  Not having lunch at the Brady Pub.  Mascolo was a great actor, but I thought his character was way overused and then inappropriately normalized to the canvas.   Stefano hated his children. It's stupid that even now they talk to his picture. Awful writing.

I never saw whatever show Roger Thorpe was on (yes I know famous but I never watched it).

Edited March 14Mar 14 by janea4old

Just now, kalbir said:

Three weeks of Beyond the Gates and my thoughts so far:

Andre/Dani ❤️‍🔥 

Sean Freeman (Andre) is the show's hotness.

Tricia Mann-Grant (Leslie aka Silk Press Sheila) is the show's breakout star.

Agree. Especially with Tricia. She has officially hit my ED's Kristen sweet spot and you know how much I love Eileen Davidson. 

 

 

1 minute ago, janea4old said:

I feel exactly the same about Stefano DiMera.  Should have been occasional villain recurring very sporadically.  A storyline arc, and then gone for a few years.  Not having lunch at the Brady Pub.  Mascolo was a great actor, but I thought his character was way overused and then inappropriately normalized to the canvas

Completely agree. I can still think of the times when he would vanish and reappear and JM did such a great job...Teenage Me knew to be filled with dread and excited. Heck, he even got his own promos when every time he returned.  And I hated him being watered down as well. Or anyone NOT Victor thinking they could take him down. 

We've only had couple of weeks of episodes. I'm sure Silkpress won't be on all the time. MVJ will know how to ration her best so she is kept fresh.

So far I haven't felt her character being too much on. I've felt that with Dani... But not with Silk... Maybe because she is not only a villain... But kinda funny too. She just doesn't drag at all. For now.

That's just my POV. 

I prefer seeing Silkpress and amazing acting... Than watching Martin struggle with the material in every scene. Or the boring Derek and Ashley.

But... I also want to see more Anita. Please. 💖

Edited March 14Mar 14 by Maxim

I'm really excited to see how Leslie pivots to ensure Eva stays in her grasp. 

Leslie could eventually be blended into the canvas like Phyllis Summers who is still kind of a villain but is also a weird kind of normal.

1 minute ago, Maxim said:

We've only had couple of weeks of episodes. I'm sure Silkpress won't be on all the time. MVJ will know how to ration her best so she is kept fresh.

So far I haven't felt her character being too much on. I've felt that with Dani... But not with Silk... Maybe because she is not only a villain... But kinda funny too. She just doesn't drag at all. For now.

That's just my POV. 

I prefer seeing Silkpress and amazing acting... Than watching Martin struggle with the material I'm every scene.

But... I also want to see more Anita. Please. 💖

The great thing is that there is so much more about Leslie that we don't know and for them to explore. 

 

Ted when he saw Sherry

Not all soap villains are created equal. Roger Thorpe, Iris Carrington, Damian Smith, Alex Olanov, even the earlier Kristen Blake, etc. are not the same as Sheila Carter, Stefano DiMera or the later Kristen or James Stenbeck.

If care is taken with what Dana gets up to or commits, or she gets some rehabilitation, she can run on contract for a long time.

Agree with others that Episode 14 has been the best written and directed of all, thus far. Phideau's directing was great.  Tate's dialogue was also great as was the pacing of Dunn's outline.

Bill and Ted should have been brothers; think of the years of story (back story too).

Nice twist at the end re Eva...

The flashbacks and fantasy sequences reminded me of Jim Reilly and Bill Bell style. Other episodes feel like The City or Ron's OLTL.  I like the former although not too many flashbacks please.