-- Sidwell is in the opening credits? Jesus.

-- Kai still in the hospital? And now they're making us wait to tell us what's wrong with him and why he "can never play football again."

I guess I should be happy that the bad football scenes will end.

-- Today's show was a dud for me.

Just now, ranger1rg said:

-- Sidwell is in the opening credits? Jesus.

Of course he is, when dead-eyed Wiley and the other random children also regularly make it in.

2 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

-- Kai still in the hospital? And now they're making us wait to tell us what's wrong with him and why he "can never play football again."

I think it's only been a day or so (reel-time) since he was admitted in?

This show badly need to move on from the Frank Valentini era. It’s stuck in this continuous rut it will never get out of. Hoping Beyond The Gates inspires change across the daytime soaps if successful. 

1 minute ago, BetterForgotten said:

This show badly need to move on from the Frank Valentini era. It’s stuck in this continuous rut it will never get out of.

It's like they're in a similar situation to Days, where they feel they need these temp. villains to drive story and move things along, but they honestly don't.

3 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

This show badly need to move on from the Frank Valentini era. It’s stuck in this continuous rut it will never get out of. Hoping Beyond The Gates inspires change across the daytime soaps if successful. 

I have a feeling a great many hopes & dreams are hanging on this new sudser!

2 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

It's like they're in a similar situation to Days, where they feel they need these temp. villains to drive story and move things along, but they honestly don't.

Hence why they have trained a lot of the (dumb) online audience to expect the longtime characters to never do controversial things.

36 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

This show badly need to move on from the Frank Valentini era. It’s stuck in this continuous rut it will never get out of. Hoping Beyond The Gates inspires change across the daytime soaps if successful. 

Given the major roles some of the writers who made GH what it now is will have at BtG I'm not sure if the shows will be as separate as we may hope. 

I do agree GH can never improve if risk-averse Frank is still there. Unfortunately, the ratings dropping as soon as they made any slight change last year probably just makes it more likely they will stick to what they have until they are canceled.

Will Cyrus go after Kai next?

18 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Given the major roles some of the writers who made GH what it now is will have at BtG I'm not sure if the shows will be as separate as we may hope. 

Michele Val Jean & Robert Guza Jnr are not the only creatives that [could] turn things around. But first and foremost, Frank Valentini & Nate Varni need to go.

18 hours ago, Vee said:

Hence why they have trained a lot of the (dumb) online audience to expect the longtime characters to never do controversial things.

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On 1/24/2025 at 10:04 AM, Liberty City said:

I sure as fück hope they do!

I am hereing that they will sometime in Feb Sweeps  i have a feeling its gonna start sooner rather than later.

MW and RH Spark as Ric and Ava.

23 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I have a feeling a great many hopes & dreams are hanging on this new sudser!

I agree with the posters who said Frank needs to go. It's been 13 years now! But others have said he brings the show in under budget so there's little incentive to get rid of him. 

This was a telling line... Carly said the most attractive thing about Sonny was that he could get her custody of Michael, so she ignored the dangers that he posed. Some self-recognition!

It's crazy how the story lines of 1996-1997: Jason's post crash personality, Jason going to work for Sonny, and Michael's paternity, still directly affect so much plot today. 

Edited January 25Jan 25 by Planet Soap

34 minutes ago, Planet Soap said:

I agree with the posters who said Frank needs to go.

I used to be a Frank cheerleader. That stopped, I guess, 2 years ago. The nickname for his taping style is "Fast & Furious". (It's not a compliment.) We know his "style" creates problems because we see them with our own two eyes each. We know he has a great deal of trouble letting anyone go. We know the cast is too big. Nathan Varni loves the big cast that they can rotate people in & out of. We know because Steve B said it in a podcast that Gary Tomlin praised the actors for working so fast that they got some godawful number of scenes/episodes done in a ridiculously short amount of time. Now, in our lifetime directors directing actors & acting is somehow an outdated idea. I still try to compliment when they do something right but most of the time I'm mad at my show for not being a helluva lot better than it is.

34 minutes ago, Planet Soap said:

It's been 13 years now!

That's even longer than Jill's last tenure, isn't it? I believe she set a record with 12 years EP at GH. Now, you're saying Frank has bested that? There's something to be said for shorter reigns!

 

34 minutes ago, Planet Soap said:

But others have said he brings the show in under budget so there's little incentive to get rid of him. 

My suspicion is that Disney is pleased with him. 

34 minutes ago, Planet Soap said:

This was a telling line... Carly said the most attractive thing about Sonny was that he could get her custody of Michael, so she ignored the dangers that he posed. Some self-recognition!

For those of us who are diehard Carly fans this period has been both amazing & hard for us to watch. I think LW's Carly is showing the most character growth she ever has! Love that but it is at the expense of watching her hold herself in such tight restraint. She's so worried about Michael that she is risk-averse & we're not getting to see full-on Mamabear & she's not acting on her intuition & she is putting up with almost everyone! The only good Carly thing is that she is pretty free of having to prop, support, lie for, etc. Sonny! She & Jason have even disagreed which is weird.  

34 minutes ago, Planet Soap said:

It's crazy how the story lines of 1996-1997: Jason's post crash personality, Jason going to work for Sonny, and Michael's paternity, still directly affect so much plot today. 

Show & character history is so important right now & I do love that. 

On 1/24/2025 at 7:33 AM, Darn said:

I'm all over the place...like that episode! Kristina's opening was a ho hum affair, what was even the point? This town didn't need ANOTHER place to sit down and banally speak about nothing. She's not having any first day mishaps, there's no big opening speech, no crowd, it's just...here's her new lounge! She looks so at ease on their opening day, just pouring drinks in her little ponytail. Her bartender got arrested? No skin off her nose! She'll just do it herself! You know, it's not like she's the owner or anything.

And why the hell isn't Lucky immediately going back to work! It's opening day! You just got the job! Yes, yes, Serial Killer Cyrus > Charli's but yeesh, at least let him show some urgency. Just a quick "oh shiz I gotta get back to work!".

LOL.  Loved your whole post.  I guess Kristina owning the same bar she was managing and bartending part-time for years isn't much of an event.

Jordan being so mid and constantly cool is her whole style (and a nice contrast to the over-the-top scenery-chewing that's done by the rest of her extended family).  I cannot believe they have her son playing a 30something doctor when she looks 20something.  She's the most beautiful woman in ABC Daytime since Renée Elise Goldsberry.  I'm glad they're treating her better than they treated poor, under-used Evangeline (who definitely belonged with Trevor St John's character, if the show didn't wimp out).

I hope Cyrus kills Gio & Kai soon.  I'm sick of Trina's aimless stories at the art gallery and art class with the quarterback.  They're worse than Liz when she was talking about painting the wind back in the day.  The actress that plays Trina could do a great job if they made the character (figuratively) dark.  It's doubly a shame they got rid of Esme.  Trina having a nemesis that corrupts her would be far more compelling.

I thought Cody & Molly were cute.  I hope they don't send Cody into a destructive spiral and turn him into another AJ.

2 hours ago, BrendaB said:

LOL.  Loved your whole post.  I guess Kristina owning the same bar she was managing and bartending part-time for years isn't much of an event.

Jordan being so mid and constantly cool is her whole style (and a nice contrast to the over-the-top scenery-chewing that's done by the rest of her extended family).  I cannot believe they have her son playing a 30something doctor when she looks 20something.  She's the most beautiful woman in ABC Daytime since Renée Elise Goldsberry.  I'm glad they're treating her better than they treated poor, under-used Evangeline (who definitely belonged with Trevor St John's character, if the show didn't wimp out).

I hope Cyrus kills Gio & Kai soon.  I'm sick of Trina's aimless stories at the art gallery and art class with the quarterback.  They're worse than Liz when she was talking about painting the wind back in the day.  The actress that plays Trina could do a great job if they made the character (figuratively) dark.  It's doubly a shame they got rid of Esme.  Trina having a nemesis that corrupts her would be far more compelling.

I thought Cody & Molly were cute.  I hope they don't send Cody into a destructive spiral and turn him into another AJ.

Count me in as a fan of this Jordan. Love her with Isaiah. It’s interesting how slow the show is taking their romance. Also enjoyed her going off on Drew the other day. At one point they were definitely Chem testing her and Drew but it never went anywhere.