1 hour ago, BetterForgotten said:

So, easy to ditch when they’re ready 😗 😗 😗

I hope it’s soon. I can’t stand Van. 

My top pics for Sasha's dad:

Bill Eckert

Holly's hubby she mentions in 2006

Sidwell

I find Van more believable as Lucas. I liked Ryan but he was never gonna come back long-term

3 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Yeah, that wording though. Hm. 

Well, if Carnes was offered a full-time, contract status, I doubt they'd change story too much. It's probably just not viable to have an east coast-living actor in a contract role. But, by Van's words, it sounds like he is actively filming with him. He only returned to New York this past Saturday, so....

5 minutes ago, John said:

My top pics for Sasha's dad:

Someone in Antarctica who she can go quest for in the frozen tundra, offscreen.

Making a pointless character related to popular characters (or needlessly recasting a forgotten character, like Wagger) doesn't make them less pointless.

Edited October 16, 20241 yr by Vee

Just now, Liberty City said:

Well, if Carnes was offered a full-time, contract status, I doubt they'd change story too much. It's probably just not viable to have an east coast-living actor in a contract role. But, by Van's words, it sounds like he is actively filming with him. He only returned to New York this past Saturday, so....

Sadly, Carnes is not interested in full time.

 

That said...that sounds good. VH definitely is not the first actor to do the bi-coastal. Probably won't be the last.

 

 

Just now, Liberty City said:

Ryan Carnes was offered to return and turned the role down, and was offered a regular gig. I'm betting this being "heavily recurring" is due to Van Hansis' residence being on the east coast.

That and budget. 

There's no place for gay characters on today's GH besides plot devices like Brad. There was never any real place on GH for gay characters. Somehow the most effective is still poor Jon Hanley, who died 30 years ago. Lucas has no real ties to anyone on the canvas (he's not going to get story from hugging Carly or Maxie) and is just a PR exercise. I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone by spring.

59 minutes ago, Vee said:

Someone in Antarctica who she can go quest for in the frozen tundra, offscreen.

Making a pointless character related to popular characters (or needlessly recasting a forgotten character, like Wagger) doesn't make them less pointless.

It would be nice if Holly had another reason to pop in, but I agree there's not much story purpose to tie Sasha to any old characters. If they want to do that, they should come up with someone from the show's first few decades, to help celebrate the anniversary. 

I think we all knew that GH was gonna do something like this to try and make Sasha relevant. It wouldn’t be the first time, or even like the fourth lol 

I’m surprised it actually took this long.

3 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I think we all knew that GH was gonna do something like this to try and make Sasha relevant. It wouldn’t be the first time, or even like the fourth lol 

I’m surprised it actually took this long.

The odd part is she has the connections to be relevant. She was married to Sonny's brother, who was killed by Heather. As others said months ago, she was nowhere to be found in that story. 

2 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

The odd part is she has the connections to be relevant. She was married to Sonny's brother, who was killed by Heather. As others said months ago, she was nowhere to be found in that story. 

It seems similar to Mac/Cody, Chase/Jackie, Griffin/Duke: tie the newbie to an established popular character. 

Just now, AbcNbc247 said:

It seems similar to Mac/Cody, Chase/Jackie, Griffin/Duke: tie the newbie to an established popular character. 

Very true. At least with Mac and Cody, Mac was still on the show and has been a constant for years. It doesn't work otherwise (and I'm sure some would say it doesn't work even with Mac and Cody).

8-15

 

Speaking of wording...lol. Don't tell me all of this found liver for Lulu section of the Lulu storyline has been because Cyrus pulled some strings. Plans within plans. That said I actually did like the Cyrus vs Martin scenes. The shade flew. Speaking of which, the KFC mention given how people felt about MEK's accent and the voice coach mention took me out.

 

Quartermaines, Quartermaines everywhere!!! I'm not hating on it, but I do feel two ways about it. I don't like that Tracy and BLQ are reduced to this silly Violet storyline and Tracy being as has been mentioned one dimensional. However, it does appear to be hinting at something else for BLQ that has made me curious. I cannot believe we are back to this ELQ storyline with the shares. I liked Ned's idea which was a sound idea for Generation Next who are mostly on canvas and a bit of cute foreshadowing given where the plot is going with Lulu. On the other hand, I would be more invested if I still cared about the Drew/Willow storyline...which no longer has any drop of investment in it (or for me). Even Nina appears to have vanished from it. So in a battle between Drew and Ned, I'm already Team Ned...which is sound because Drew is plotting behind his back just as much as Ned is plotting behind his. And even more delicious is the fact that when it comes out about Drew/Willow, Michael is going to feel stupid going along with Drew at all. So...#TeamNed.

 

I really truly liked how Q-centered this episode was. A nice break from the Sonny mess. 

 

I continue to love seeing Liz at all times. I loved seeing her all over the place. I love how we continue to see Dante's POV. And look at Isaiah getting into the doctor spirit.

 

That said...that ending. smh. I am finding my feelings are starting to feel mixed about what's coming to Sam. I admit to being surprised. After all, like a lot of you, she really has not been doing anything.

 

However I did like Sam/Dante before PM came along. I loved he gave them layers and their blended family. I loved the potential of Lulu waiting up and seeing how it would fall out. Not to mention what was going on before Lulu 'went to sleep.' I had already envisioned the catfights. lol. That said, it is probably the fact of how it is going down in real time as well as why. And I suspect the scene will make me see a bit of red. 

I think Lucas has plenty of ties and they actually invested in them much more when Carnes returned in the 2010s than ever before - Carly, Bobbie, the unnecessary Jerome/Sam stuff, etc. were all key to his story and interaction back then. My problem isn't with Lucas, who isn't extraneous but with GH and storytelling. At the height of Lucas' pretty heavy use in the Carlivati years it was still with dudes like Brad and Felix who I felt were beneath him, but since then it's been diminishing returns and random lip service.

Today I have no faith in them seriously investing in any LGBT characters beyond B or C-story or recurring players like Brad and Terry; if they want me to buy into that change they'd have to show me.

3 minutes ago, Vee said:

I think Lucas has plenty of ties and they actually invested in them much more when Carnes returned in the 2010s than ever before - Carly, Bobbie, the unnecessary Jerome/Sam stuff, etc. were all key to his story and interaction back then. My problem isn't with Lucas, who isn't extraneous but with GH and storytelling. At the height of Lucas' pretty heavy use in the Carlivati years it was still with dudes like Brad and Felix who I felt were beneath him, but since then it's been diminishing returns and random lip service.

Today I have no faith in them seriously investing in any LGBT characters beyond B or C-story or recurring players like Brad and Terry; if they want me to buy into that change they'd have to show me.

I would agree with this in another era (or maybe on a show beyond what GH has been for the last 20-25 years) but not as much here. Sam is going and Bobbie is gone, so that mostly leaves us with Carly, who is just an energy suck to the point where they can only keep her viable by throwing new men at her and more Jason nostalgia for a pairing that last had any real fan interest three Carlys ago. 

Lucas returning rather than effort being made on a new character is the easiest form of lip service - they can hide behind the fan value his last name once had and then assume people will lose interest in a week...those who ever had any interest anyway.

I also tend to wonder if casting an openly gay actor is a big red flag that they never had any plans to provide real story for Lucas this time around. The only times Lucas had shreds of storyline, straight actors were in the part.

Hmmm I wouldn't say that. While it probably very well will end up lip service, I thought it showed some commitment to have Lucas have scenes with Ava which I admit I felt he barely had scenes with her at all, but then again I had stopped watching GH regularly during RC's last year and through Passante. 

 

I do feel going forward he will have scenes with Carly cuz Korte to keep him relevant, but I feel he will continue to have some scenes with Ava as well. And probably Third Place being Maxie.

 

Now...will he have story? Now while people care because it is a gay character, most will focus on that question simply because Lucas is a legacy character. But I might be answering my own question cuz...FV.