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16 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Holy [!@#$%^&*] that’s crazy! And they wrote them out after it was resolved? Seems like a waste.

Again my only exposure to JJ was his last run so I’m in the same boat with you. The constant crying hasn’t started back so at least there’s that.

I was waiting for your thoughts! So happy I’m not alone in thinking there was more of a spark between Ric and Liz. Ric looks at Liz like she’s the most important person in the world when they’re together. But honestly in general I find Hearst to be a more alive performer than JJ.

Ryan Carnes quit in early 2020 after Brad went to Jail. Brad got out later that year. Lucas (Played by Matt Trudeau) was on from Dec 2020-Spring 2021 then dropped off the canvas.

Before his return in sept 2024, Brad was last seen as Epfiany's funeral 

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52 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Wait Brad stole Lucas’ nephew’s bio kid to pass off as his own with Lucas?!

Stole, no. Nelle more-so offered Jonah to him.

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1 minute ago, Liberty City said:

Stole, no. Nelle more-so offered Jonah to him.

Gosh I missed so much of the Nelle story. I just remember people posting they were ready for her to go on here. I’d love another young villain for the characters in that age range to deal with.

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22 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Holy [!@#$%^&*] that’s crazy! And they wrote them out after it was resolved? Seems like a waste.

Somewhat; the story fizzled once Wiley was returned to Michael. Nelle made [some] attempts to kidnap Wiley from Michael, and Brad ended up going to prison and Lucas divorced him. Then COVID hit and when the show came back, Ryan Carnes did not (for unknown "official" reasons), and the role was recast from November 2020 to March 2021, when Lucas effectively left the canvas and moved to Boston.

Selina Wu got Brad out of prison (if I remember correctly) and employed him at her illegal casino nights at The Savoy.

Just now, Antoyne said:

Gosh I missed so much of the Nelle story. I just remember people posting they were ready for her to go on here. I’d love another young villain for the characters in that age range to deal with.

Nelle, like many other villains / storylines, went on for too long.

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9 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I am not trying to change your mind or anything, but JJ's last stint did him no favors.  It was pretty dreary.  I think you might like JJ's run as a kid/teen/young adult.  He was quite charming, IMO.  Although if you are more familiar with GV's Lucky it might be too different.  The 3 Lucky's almost feel like entirely separate characters for me tbh.

Yeah GV was my Lucky. When Sam, Liz, Jason, and Lucky all ran into each other in the hall at the hospital there was this air of tension obviously but it didn’t really work for me because I can’t see Sam ever being with JJ’s Lucky and she was quite hot with GV.

3 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

Somewhat; the story fizzled once Wiley was returned to Michael. Nelle made [some] attempts to kidnap Wiley from Michael, and Brad ended up going to prison and Lucas divorced him. Then COVID hit and when the show came back, Ryan Carnes did not (for unknown "official" reasons), and the role was recast from November 2020 to March 2021, when Lucas effectively left the canvas and moved to Boston.

Selina Wu got Brad out of prison (if I remember correctly) and employed him at her illegal casino nights at The Savoy.

Nelle, like many other villains / storylines, went on for too long.

Stretching out a villain for too long seems to be soapswide issue these days.

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7 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Stretching out a villain for too long seems to be soapswide issue these days.

They took it one or two sweeps periods too far. It seemed like it was never-ending, which while can be fun, was just... not happening.

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Just now, Antoyne said:

Yeah GV was my Lucky. When Sam, Liz, Jason, and Lucky all ran into each other in the hall at the hospital there was this air of tension obviously but it didn’t really work for me because I can’t see Sam ever being with JJ’s Lucky and she was quite hot with GV.

Oh, no.  It's literally impossible to imagine JJ's Lucky with Sam.  Sam was very good with GV's Lucky.  I think GV's Lucky was a more typical hero and family man (with flaws, obviously) while JJ's Lucky is a bit more cerebral, a great mixture of Luke/Laura, and just an entirely different type of Lucky.  It's hard for me to buy JJ's Lucky as a cop or spy or whatever he's doing now-I could see him a bit more interested in the tech side of things as he was really good with computers as a child.  Like Spinelli, but less quirky. 

GV is sexy and I would consider JJ's Lucky more jaded and not supposed to be hot or sexy exactly.  He wouldn't find interest in someone like Sam. 

Making Lucky such a deadbeat dad has already boxed him in right now.  I think JJ can definitely handle the material and work to be a better Lucky though.

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1 minute ago, Soapsuds said:

It's not obvious?

Sam

After I wrote that, I was like oh wait, duh

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30 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Holy [!@#$%^&*] that’s crazy! And they wrote them out after it was resolved? Seems like a waste.

Oh yeah. The fallout was so rushed from what I remember. And then Lucas just faded away when there was so much potential because he took that loss hard. Hard enough to consider going after custody if I remember correctly, but I might be wrong.

 

31 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

I was waiting for your thoughts! So happy I’m not alone in thinking there was more of a spark between Ric and Liz. Ric looks at Liz like she’s the most important person in the world when they’re together. But honestly in general I find Hearst to be a more alive performer than JJ.

Oh yeah next to a certain HW show that premiered yesterday, I was looking forward to this reunion so I was LIVID with my system going down. Cuz something always happens to my tv system during the former show's season airing. ALWAYS. 

 

When it comes to my memories, I hold JJ and GV in high regard (and thought JY was pretty to look at, miscast) as Lucky even when the writing didn't do either one of them any favors. That said...I thought Lucky/Liz's fantasy scene was very well done, and I felt that chemistry. But the real reunion...there were moments, but there was just more chemistry in their flashback than I felt in their interactions. I felt Liz had more of a spark with Jason in the brief hug they shared in the same episode than Liz and Lucky. And then as another counterpoint, yes...Ric anytime he is around Liz, RH plays that throughline of love with her. You can see it. You can feel it. And the fact that I was not around for most of the history (though I know of it or have seen some clips) so I know he's a dangerous man and I can still see and feel it between the two of them speaks volume to Hearst as an actor. 

 

While I'm happy to see him in other storylines and probably getting with Ava, I cannot help but smh for a minute at the fact that THREE of the men Liz have been involved with with actual PC history are on canvas at the same time, and the New/Old Writers are not going to play with it just a little bit more. But I'm just greedy and want to see Liz on screen as much as I can as a Liz fan. :) 

19 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

When Sam, Liz, Jason, and Lucky all ran into each other in the hall at the hospital there was this air of tension obviously but it didn’t really work for me because I can’t see Sam ever being with JJ’s Lucky and she was quite hot with GV.

IKR!!! lol.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Oh yeah. The fallout was so rushed from what I remember. And then Lucas just faded away when there was so much potential because he took that loss hard. Hard enough to consider going after custody if I remember correctly, but I might be wrong.

 

Oh yeah next to a certain HW show that premiered yesterday, I was looking forward to this reunion so I was LIVID with my system going down. Cuz something always happens to my tv system during the former show's season airing. ALWAYS. 

 

When it comes to my memories, I hold JJ and GV in high regard (and thought JY was pretty to look at, miscast) as Lucky even when the writing didn't do either one of them any favors. That said...I thought Lucky/Liz's fantasy scene was very well done, and I felt that chemistry. But the real reunion...there were moments, but there was just more chemistry in their flashback than I felt in their interactions. I felt Liz had more of a spark with Jason in the brief hug they shared in the same episode than Liz and Lucky. And then as another counterpoint, yes...Ric anytime he is around Liz, RH plays that throughline of love with her. You can see it. You can feel it. And the fact that I was not around for most of the history (though I know of it or have seen some clips) so I know he's a dangerous man and I can still see and feel it between the two of them speaks volume to Hearst as an actor. 

 

While I'm happy to see him in other storylines and probably getting with Ava, I cannot help but smh for a minute at the fact that THREE of the men Liz have been involved with with actual PC history are on canvas at the same time, and the New/Old Writers are not going to play with it just a little bit more. But I'm just greedy and want to see Liz on screen as much as I can as a Liz fan. :) 

Having three major exes of Liz in town all at the same time with such varied histories with her literally writes itself. Couldn’t agree more Hearst always plays that throughline. I missed a lot of them together in real time as well. But I like what I like and see what I see lol.

Onto 10/7

Kirsten Storms looks amazing. PM was using her as Maxie really well to me and she was coming alive again, but she’s a day player under these new writers. Hopefully when Lulu wakes up she has more to do. She and VH had instant chemistry together. Van actually feels like he’s been on this show for a long time. It’s crazy how he seems to fit with all of these actors like he’s been playing opposite them the whole time. Good recast.

Actually enjoyed the Lucky and Aidan scenes but it doesn’t seem like either Aidan or Liz are really mad at Lucky for choosing to be a dead beat for a decade. Continuing to enjoy the new Aidan but it seems like most of the teens are no longer any sort of priority on the show and Aidan is already talking about going to school on another continent just like Jake so I’m not getting attached.
 

I love vets even if I don’t have long histories with them so I enjoyed the Holly and Felicia scenes. A lot of these actors have worked off and on together for so many years, you can just feel the connections between the character. 
 

I missed when Violet was on all the time so she doesn’t bother me. Also I liked Finn’s friendship with Tracy so her being involved with Violet doesn’t annoy me at all and makes sense.

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6 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Having three major exes of Liz in town all at the same time with such varied histories with her literally writes itself. Couldn’t agree more Hearst always plays that throughline. I missed a lot of them together in real time as well. But I like what I like and see what I see lol.

And don't forget...with ACTUAL PC histories. ;) So no need to prop a Friend of Frank some folks. ;);) 

 

Hehe. I know it's wrong, but Hearst really plays it oh so well. Even when Liz sat him down to let Ric down gently and firmly, Hearst simply went to subtext with Ric and I giggled. He is so smitten on her even now. 

 

But yes...it writes itself. 

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53 minutes ago, John said:

Ryan Carnes quit in early 2020 after Brad went to Jail. Brad got out later that year. Lucas (Played by Matt Trudeau) was on from Dec 2020-Spring 2021 then dropped off the canvas.

Before his return in sept 2024, Brad was last seen as Epfiany's funeral 

Yes, and Perry Shen said he was asked back very, very abruptly, which is presumably due to all the upheaval behind the scenes (and the backlash over the handling of the Blaze story).

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12 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Yes, and Perry Shen said he was asked back very, very abruptly, which is presumably due to all the upheaval behind the scenes (and the backlash over the handling of the Blaze story).

As I watched today I felt like I was getting an overload of Gay Gay Gay GIF by StickerGiant

I'm not complaining mind you.

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