On 7/5/2024 at 10:12 AM, j swift said:

Once again, why is Kayla more concerned about the cancellation of Body & Soul than the fact that her husband almost went to jail and her daughter is visiting a dangerously mentally ill man?

And, what's your take on the meta-humor of the Body&Soul cancellation?  Kayla said it was an issue between the producer and the network.  Are we to infer that the writer (as he will henceforth be known) is taking a side in the backstage HR issues at DAYS?  If so, is he sympathetic to the man who hired him?  Because the suggestion that I got was that Body&Soul could not survive without its producer. 

But, why would the current producer allow an implication in the script that was unfavorable to her appointment?

The only time Kayla is really used by the current writers is being at the hospital otherwise she is off screen and I never really understand why because Kayla could be having scenes with both jada and Stephanie on the show and the current scripts go through Ron because headwriter not Janet Drucker she is only Executive producer on the show 

On 7/6/2024 at 2:50 PM, Soapsuds said:

Oh and I'm really hating New Tate. 

nuTate isn't a bad actor. He just isn't Tate.

He's too old for the role -- or, I should say, for the writing. DAYS failed this actor by not SORASing the character. I don't think there's a way for ANY actor to make this stuff work.

3 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

nuTate isn't a bad actor. He just isn't Tate.

He's too old for the role -- or, I should say, for the writing. DAYS failed this actor by not SORASing the character. I don't think there's a way for ANY actor to make this stuff work.

The writing for Tate is awful. He's acting like a 2 year old brat. 

I'm anti Tate and Holly.

Ron sure knows how to ruin couples with his writing.

13 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

nuTate isn't a bad actor. He just isn't Tate.

He's too old for the role -- or, I should say, for the writing. DAYS failed this actor by not SORASing the character. I don't think there's a way for ANY actor to make this stuff work.

 

9 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

The writing for Tate is awful. He's acting like a 2 year old brat. 

I'm anti Tate and Holly.

Ron sure knows how to ruin couples with his writing.

They're missing the mark with Tate. He should be messier, like Holly lol. That needs to be the primary source of conflict between them, not Theresa and the Romeo & Juliet stuff.

Edited July 7, 20241 yr by AbcNbc247

1 minute ago, AbcNbc247 said:

 

They're missing the mark with Tate. He needs to be messier, just like Holly lol. That needs to be the primary source of conflict between them, not Theresa and the Romeo&Juliet stuff.

He should still be pissed with Holly.

Ron making them Romeo and Juliet isn't working. The writing doesn't support it.

I feel like the emphasis even with the Romeo & Juliet angle is off. People should be mad at Holly for taking the drugs in the first place, not for "lying and getting Tate locked up" -- she was in a coma for 95% of the time he was in trouble for that incident, and it was like 3 days after she woke up that she came out with the truth. She woke up completely disoriented, found out she'd been in a coma (and overseas and back!) for months, then panicked for a pretty short period of time before she told the truth. Yeah, she should've spoken up the minute she realized what had happened, but it's not like she deviously let it go on for months longer.

I kind of wish that the source of Tate & Holly's conflict was Tate's hatred of EJ for locking him up.  He could be encouraging Brady to fight with EJ.  He could've been part of the plot to expose Eric as Jude's father.  And, plant stories with Leo to undermine EJ in order to keep him from publishing gossip about their clandestine kisses.  Meanwhile, Holly would feel some allegiance to EJ because he makes her mother happy, and provides a stable home for her, so that could more naturally cause conflict.

The Theresa hatred of Holly feels like punching down.  It's giving less protective mother, and more jealous nincompoop.  Especially given that they rarely shared enough screen time for Theresa to express her feelings toward Holly. 

The thing that I am most interested in is how they are going to find an excuse for Holly to stay in Salem, if Nicole leaves with Jude.  Because saying that she should spend her senior year at Salem HS makes no sense if Holly spent 2/3s of her junior year in a coma. 

Edited July 7, 20241 yr by j swift

I think Theresa vs Holly works in the sense that it's less about their actual interaction and more about Theresa seeing Holly as too similar to her younger self and not wanting her own son to be subjected to a girl like that. 

I do think some of the conflict should be coming from the couple themselves (like with Tate having it out for EJ, for example) rather than completely external, though. But it feels like this has been a few different short stories stitched together without clear transitions.

Well, to illustrate how dissatisfied I am right now with DAYS ... I completely forgot to watch one day last week! Geeze.

But, I've always found Johnny & Chanel boring. I came to find Paulina & Abe boring. Holly has turned into a pretty simplistic brat if you ask me. I quite liked Original Recipe Tate but don't at all like NuTate! I don't dislike NuGabi but I also don't feel attached. Brady's plan to ship Tate off to a sports camp seems so somehow aggressive. Meanwhile Tate & Holly's plan for him to hide out in plain sight locally is totally nuts. 

I ought to be excited about the Baby Jude reveal and I'm just not. It's somehow ... flat. Maybe Nicole telling Eric Monday will turn the screw. 

I'm getting clips together to celebrate the Hayeses next week. I've got their first wedding, awful quality. Their second wedding, great & Brenda Benet is in it & she & Doug have this great fight before the ceremony. This is my favorite 

https://rumble.com/v55wqr1-days-12-12-91-guy-who-sang-davy-crockett-julie-and-chip.html

Is today’s episode not uploading for anybody else either? 

3 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Is today’s episode not uploading for anybody else either? 

You have to restart the device you use then it comes up for today's episode 

After today's episode with all of the Connie stuff and how she mentioned Gabi and Melinda and them needing to be dealt with I'm preparing for Melinda's death by Connie killing her 

On 7/5/2024 at 2:24 PM, j swift said:

Wow!  Big fan of nu-Gabi, she did very well with the reveal and she's got the right amount of spunk without seeming smug.

She is a huge improvement, and for the first time I like the character.

I don't know what it is, but CB's version of Gabi always came off as whiny and at times unserious. Watched Friday's episode I did not see that, it was like watching a different version of Gabi, one thats better IMO. I approve of this recast. 

On 7/7/2024 at 7:41 PM, j swift said:

I kind of wish that the source of Tate & Holly's conflict was Tate's hatred of EJ for locking him up.  He could be encouraging Brady to fight with EJ.  He could've been part of the plot to expose Eric as Jude's father.  And, plant stories with Leo to undermine EJ in order to keep him from publishing gossip about their clandestine kisses.  Meanwhile, Holly would feel some allegiance to EJ because he makes her mother happy, and provides a stable home for her, so that could more naturally cause conflict.

The Theresa hatred of Holly feels like punching down.  It's giving less protective mother, and more jealous nincompoop.  Especially given that they rarely shared enough screen time for Theresa to express her feelings toward Holly. 

I think you're making Ron's writing more than one dimensional here, and you know he doesn't do that. I love the idea of Tate being pulled into the Jude paternity reveal, because at the moment the story feels so isolated compared the rest of the show. 

Edited July 9, 20241 yr by MichaelGL

I know that part of the reason I miss Camila is familiarity. Known her since she was a teen. But, we know that familiarity, comfortableness, is a big deal to soap fans. 

And, I am of the opinion that both Camila & Lindsay left because of that arsehole so I resent their being gone. 

Since @AbcNbc247 missed the show this am as it appeared to upload late I will let you guys know it's a good episode.  I had no problem loading the episode on Peacock.  No need to restart your device or anything.

The bad-

Jada/Bobby.  Blah, blah, blah.  He overheard crazy lady Connie? say she killed Li to herself on a park bench.  He did not tell Jada the entire truth yet.  Still just giving bits and pieces of the story so Jada will come back.

The meh-

Li Shin returns!  To play out how he died and be an imaginary character in crazy lady's head.  This is at least as stupid as Gil killing him randomly.  Now just he randomly got killed by a bit player stalker.

The reason to watch-

The entire denouement of the baby story.  Gabi blurts out the truth, Nicole finds out, etc. etc.  Cliffhanger is Nicole/Eric.

It's pretty much the climax of the baby story today, so if you care I would go ahead and watch.