7 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I just read some wild threads on Twitter, and is this what fans really think? That Laura Wright has both the unlimited power and uses it to sideline every fan favorite except herself? Maybe I am naive, but she does not come across this way to me at all.

She seems like a hardworking actress that doesn’t take sh!t from online fans and goes to work and does her job, no matter the script or the costar. And let me be clear- I am not a LW stan. I appreciate her work, but if Sarah wanted back on as Carly I would gladly say welcome back lady!

The fans are truly wilding out, the show and network would be wise to make some statements sooner rather than later.

I don't think it would make a difference. I remember some fans used to send death threats out to actors during the Liz/Jason/Sam years. 

And of course Laura got those types of threats when she was at GL.

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13 minutes ago, Vee said:

I don't blame LW for any of this.

Nor do I.

If it turns out that this is it for Gregory, let’s just hope that countless characters don’t spend the rest of the year crying at a rock with his name on it lol 

It's a very loud, very deranged minority position. 

And, the new photos have "inspired" a new graphical bashing of LW. Bless her heart. She just shrugs it off & keeps going. I hate it for her.

13 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

If it turns out that this is it for Gregory, let’s just hope that countless characters don’t spend the rest of the year crying at a rock with his name on it lol 

I feel sure he is not going to wake up. The previews say that someone supports Tracy. So I figure she takes it hard.

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On 5/17/2024 at 3:59 PM, carolineg said:

Yes, I remember some truth bombs dropped at Carly, but mostly what I remember about GW's stint was the intro of Kate 2.0 and Robin having major HIV/AIDS complications to the point it seemed like they might possibly kill her off.

Well-deserved truthbombs.

 

Ahhh Kate 2.0...already forgettable for me.

 

Tbf I was focused on Liz and Ewen at that time. Sorry that went sideways quick. But...that's Elizabeth for you.

 

On 5/17/2024 at 4:10 PM, titan1978 said:

Well KMc was making no bones about her desire to leave at the end of her contract. She wasn’t happy about Robin’s AIDS medication being tampered with as a plot point during the Lisa Niles story, and was in general just ready for her next chapter to become a director.

We had our chance but JFP and Frons didn’t want Sri Rao on the main show. She preferred someone she could control, much like Frank. It got her fired though.

Thank you for the tea. I know KMc was growing to focus more on her direction, but that she felt a way about that plot point. 

 

 

2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

The bad blood between Genie and GH or ABC over her extended maternity leave helped to disenfranchise the character, followed by Guza and Tony Geary's clear contempt for her (and need to turn her rape into her rapist's pity parties and her son berating her) created a hole for her that she never got out of. Then we have Geary's contempt for any Lucky not named JJ, plus JJ's depressing return that pleased no one and kept him away from the show for good, plus JMB's lousy turn as Lulu followed by a poorly received recast, followed by all the tragedies with Tyler Christopher...

Pretty much everything went against Laura and her relevance on the canvas.

I have to admit I've never cared about Laura, and I don't think Genie Francis is that fantastic, and even I would agree she's been disrespected in so many ways when you think of what she did for GH.

The only reason she is there is lip service. 

I won't claim the treatment of Tracy is top-tier (especially the degradation of her when she was married to Luke) and is likely going to decline with Mulcahey's departure, but still, if you were a viewer in 1980 and someone showed you Tracy's relevance vs Laura's in 2024, you'd be shocked. (once you get past the shock of someone from 2024 being in your house to talk to you about a soap)

You're not wrong about any of this, my friend, lol!

Oh, and people need to leave LW the [!@#$%^&*] alone.

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2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I won't claim the treatment of Tracy is top-tier (especially the degradation of her when she was married to Luke) and is likely going to decline with Mulcahey's departure, but still, if you were a viewer in 1980 and someone showed you Tracy's relevance vs Laura's in 2024, you'd be shocked. (once you get past the shock of someone from 2024 being in your house to talk to you about a soap)

I don't agree at all that Laura is not prominent these last few years - she is mayor and has been central in a ton of key story in the last few years, shockingly so. We all (and by all I mean virtually everyone in this conversation) discussed it that positive evolution for her prominence just last year during the February sweeps period as one of the few consistent bright spots of the show in recent years. It's only the last few months she's been on a lot less. I find her pairing with Kevin boring as hell myself but it's been reasonably popular.

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1 minute ago, Vee said:

I find her pairing with Kevin boring as hell myself but it's been reasonably popular.

For reasons I will never, ever, EVER understand.

1 minute ago, Vee said:

I don't agree at all that Laura is not prominent these last few years - she is mayor and has been central in a ton of key story in the last few years, shockingly so. We all discussed it that positive evolution for her prominence just last year during the February sweeps period as one of the few consistent bright spots of the show in recent years. It's only the last few months she's been on a lot less. I find her pairing with Kevin boring as hell myself but it's been reasonably popular.

She's been around, helped by Spencer's presence, but I do think the core of the character has not been there in a very long time - probably since that fateful maternity leave (not that I am blaming a maternity leave, more how the whole thing ended up playing out backstage, allegedly).

5 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

She's been around, helped by Spencer's presence, but I do think the core of the character has not been there in a very long time - probably since that fateful maternity leave (not that I am blaming a maternity leave, more how the whole thing ended up playing out backstage, allegedly).

That all being said, they have still leaned heavily on Laura's new role as mayor to make her a major and active part of a ton of canvas-wide story happening all across the canvas, almost like she's a police chief. Not just in one sweeps period, but for years. That and the heavy use of the vets like Kevin, Mac, Felicia, etc. in recent years are the things I can consistently credit the last tiresome decade for getting right.

Truthfully, the OG female vet that has stayed consistently in story is Anna. She has had a new relationship or a story about her or her past consistently. Genie has been in and out of that since her return. I think her family being mostly gone hinders what she does best, which is emotional material. But truthfully, she was pretty centered until Spencer died and Nikolas was written out.

2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

She's been around, helped by Spencer's presence, but I do think the core of the character has not been there in a very long time - probably since that fateful maternity leave (not that I am blaming a maternity leave, more how the whole thing ended up playing out backstage, allegedly).

For me it was the year after Lucky died. She has even said they just flat out gave up writing for her after she wallowed in misery for months, which was realistic for Laura at that point but like everything Guza did, he didn’t have a way back from the edge. They wanted to keep stretching out Luke and Laura reuniting, so they did the Felicia story and Luke looking for Lucky without telling her.

I know others don’t agree, but I felt the show was not very good all around in 1999 through the end of Wendy’s tenure. I thought there were several forgettable and miscast characters- JY’s Lucky, Nikolas, Jerry, Roy, Chloe, Juan and Hannah being many examples. Bobbie was sidelined twice by terrible pairings, Felicia was almost destroyed, and when Sonny came back he ate the show up in a way he hadn’t before. Then they paired him with Carly.

Carly and Sonny were the highlight of the episode for me. LW and MB’s best chemistry is when they are talking each other off the brink or tearing each others heads off

Kristina is just too damn grown and too experienced in the toxicity of Sonny for this reaction to ring true for me. I wish they linked it to her abuse trauma from Kiefer instead of making her look like so clueless and naive. Good performance from Mansi though.

I think Michael Easton did some good acting as well in those Finn and Gregory scenes. The montage caught me off guard, is Greg dead? i certainly hope he is.

This wedding was a total snoozefest BTW, woof. Changes are necessary.

1 hour ago, titan1978 said:

For me it was the year after Lucky died. She has even said they just flat out gave up writing for her after she wallowed in misery for months, which was realistic for Laura at that point but like everything Guza did, he didn’t have a way back from the edge. They wanted to keep stretching out Luke and Laura reuniting, so they did the Felicia story and Luke looking for Lucky without telling her.

I know others don’t agree, but I felt the show was not very good all around in 1999 through the end of Wendy’s tenure. I thought there were several forgettable and miscast characters- JY’s Lucky, Nikolas, Jerry, Roy, Chloe, Juan and Hannah being many examples. Bobbie was sidelined twice by terrible pairings, Felicia was almost destroyed, and when Sonny came back he ate the show up in a way he hadn’t before. Then they paired him with Carly.

Oh I've already said a few too many times lately how dull the show was for me in 99/00. I stopped watching regularly around that point.

I have to admit I did like Jerry.

The Lucky "death" makes sense as well. I mostly remember her being put into that dull, dull pairing with Stefan that you could tell no one at the show gave a damn about.

Whoever said GH was trying to sell Chase and BLQ's nuptials as The Wedding of the Century was bang-on, lol.

I'm sure JS and AS are lovely people IRL, but as I've said before, there is nothing about the characters they play, especially in regards to romantic or sexual chemistry (or lack thereof), that makes them interesting to me.  Foster and Annabelle had more "heat" than Chase and BLQ, and that is just so wrong on so many levels!

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