I have two Daytime Emmy things that I'd like to run by you, sort of a pre-emptive move. 

Cady McClain has won 3 Daytime Emmys for 3 different roles, on 3 different shows, on 3 different networks. I think it is singular. 

Maura West & Michael Park won Best Actress & Best Actor the same year, playing the ATWT pairing known as "Carjack". I think this also is singular. 

Who here can bust this?!! 

On 2/24/2024 at 10:21 PM, will81 said:

To clarify, and I guess this is another error to add to the list. Erica's abortion happened the week of May 10, 1971 before Roe vs. Wade but after New York had made it legal with certain stipulations.

Erica tells Jeff that she wants an abortion, he is almost on board until his father Joe talks him out of it. Erica tells him to either arrange one by proper means (meaning in New York) or she would seek one by improper means (In Pine Valley) He doesn't and she does.

So Erica's abortion was an illegal one, right? 

On 2/25/2024 at 7:19 AM, FrenchFan said:

Yes, from the scripts I have of SFT, Kathy appeared around mid-1971. She was not even in a relationship with Scott at the fall, slowly flirting so abortion must have happened in 1972, way after AMC's Erica's.

I am so sorry for the confusion. I have relied on you twice. Because I know you were the poster who originally told me *off the top of your head* that yes she did have an abortion & that you thought it was 1970-71. When you posted before having refreshed your knowledge I just read you wrong. But you must have thought I'd lost my mind for sure. I apologize. 

On 3/18/2024 at 10:59 AM, Contessa Donatella said:

Cady McClain has won 3 Daytime Emmys for 3 different roles, on 3 different shows, on 3 different networks. I think it is singular. 

For Actresses, yes, but Justin Deas already accomplished that feat before.

And technically, Ellen Wheeler has won 3 different Daytime Emmy’s for 3 different categories. Younger Actress for Vicky/Marley on AW, Supporting Actress for Cindy on AMC, and as EP of GL when they won Outstanding Drama Series. 

13 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

For Actresses, yes, but Justin Deas already accomplished that feat before.

And technically, Ellen Wheeler has won 3 different Daytime Emmy’s for 3 different categories. Younger Actress for Vicky/Marley on AW, Supporting Actress for Cindy on AMC, and as EP of GL when they won Outstanding Drama Series. 

Love these! Now off to look up Deas. 3 Emmies, 3 different shows, 3 different characters but not 3 different networks! GL/CBS ATWT/CBS SB/NBC He lacks ABC. But, 8 Emmies my god. 

Edited March 22, 20241 yr by Contessa Donatella

4 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

So Erica's abortion was an illegal one, right? 

Yes it was illegal

1 hour ago, will81 said:

Yes it was illegal

Was Erica's abortion performed in New York or in Pennsylvania?

1 minute ago, janea4old said:

Was Erica's abortion performed in New York or in Pennsylvania?

Pennsylvania

And, this is what Wikipedia currently says about it: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Erica_Kane In a topical 1973 storyline, Erica aborts the baby she conceives with her first husband, Jeff Martin (Charles Frank). This is the first legal abortion aired on American television since the landmark Supreme Court Roe v. Wade ruling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erica_Kane
she conceives with her first husband, Jeff Martin (Charles Frank). This is the first legal abortion aired on American television since the landmark Supreme Court Roe v. Wade ruling
So that wikipedia statement was based on the WRONG DATE of 1973 for her abortion.

Wikipedia cites these sources,
so one or both of them gave the wrong information:

• Warner, Gary (1994). All My Children: The Complete Family Scrapbook. Santa Monica, California: General Publishing Group. pp. 15–119. ISBN 1-881649-45-8.

AND

• Simon, Ron; Thompson, Robert J.; Spence, Louise; Feuer, Jane (1997). Morton, Robert (ed.). Worlds Without End: The Art and History of the Soap Opera. New York, New York: Harry N Abrams. pp. 34–36. ISBN 0-8109-3997-5.

There have been other wrong statements elsewhere;
with the correct date of 1970-71, but incorrectly described as
WRONG  LOCATION of New York, where it became legal in 1970.

So the CORRECT INFO is that Erica's abortion occurred in Pennsylvania in 1970-71,
when and where it was still illegal.

 

Per the wikipedia "Maude" page 
primetime series Maude had a legal abortion
set in New York in 1972, and cites this source:
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Issue Date:
Wednesday, August 22, 1973
https://post-gazette.newspapers.com/newspage/90067087/

Edited March 22, 20241 yr by janea4old

53 minutes ago, janea4old said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erica_Kane
she conceives with her first husband, Jeff Martin (Charles Frank). This is the first legal abortion aired on American television since the landmark Supreme Court Roe v. Wade ruling
So that wikipedia statement was based on the WRONG DATE of 1973 for her abortion.

Wikipedia cites these sources,
so one or both of them gave the wrong information:

• Warner, Gary (1994). All My Children: The Complete Family Scrapbook. Santa Monica, California: General Publishing Group. pp. 15–119. ISBN 1-881649-45-8.

AND

• Simon, Ron; Thompson, Robert J.; Spence, Louise; Feuer, Jane (1997). Morton, Robert (ed.). Worlds Without End: The Art and History of the Soap Opera. New York, New York: Harry N Abrams. pp. 34–36. ISBN 0-8109-3997-5.

There have been other wrong statements elsewhere;
with the correct date of 1970-71, but incorrectly described as
WRONG  LOCATION of New York, where it became legal in 1970.

So the CORRECT INFO is that Erica's abortion occurred in Pennsylvania in 1970-71,
when and where it was still illegal.

 

Per the wikipedia "Maude" page 
primetime series Maude had a legal abortion
set in New York in 1972, and cites this source:
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Issue Date:
Wednesday, August 22, 1973
https://post-gazette.newspapers.com/newspage/90067087/

I am so glad you have joined us here in this topic! Both Wikipedia & IMDb are rife with errors. I suspect that some of the "wiki" fandoms, etc. have mistakes as well! And as far as I can tell, it is only fans who care! 

 

Claims Victoria Wyndham won an Emmy when she did not. 

In Carolyn Hinsey's book "Afternoon Delight" she says that GL found out it was canceled in March. GL got the announcement on April Fools' Day, 4-1-2009. 

LaGuardia, R. (1983). Soap World. Arbor House Publishing Company. LOC 83-72889 ISBN 0-87795-482-8

On pg. 81, 

Quote

In the first year of her reign, Agnes made one spectacular decision after another. She immediately killed off all of James Lipton's new characters in a plane crash and brought the exiled Matthewses back into prominence.

And, as we all know, this never happened. 

ATWT

I think it has generally been accepted that the role of Grandpa Hughes was played by Will Lee in the first episode and he was dropped and Santos Ortega took over the next day.

Here's a newspaper excerpt re Santos

 He missed charter membership In "World Turns" by one day. The show opened on CBS-TV with Don MacLaughlin as Chris Hughes, Helen Wagner as Nancy Hughes and William Johnstone as Judge Lowell on April 2, 1956. On the next day, Sandy was a replacement for Grandpa.   

In fact it was a couple of weeks into the show that Pa appeared. He was still living on the farm at that point. So Will Lee did appear for a day it seems but not on the premiere episode.

Not sure if Pa appeared the next day or it was a few episodes before Santos took over.

 

I'd love to know the full, original cast list for ATWT.  It seems like they had a very small cast in the beginning.