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6 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Giddens being a hack isn't much of a surprise, but this is also down to Ron's contempt for the genre, as shown with his OLTL finish and the decision to end on bad soap parodies. 

Oh, definitely. And I don’t even think he realizes that. He probably just thinks his parodies are out of respect for the genre, like what the Zucker brothers would do with their movies. 

But in reality, it comes off more like a Friedberg and Seltzer parody.

And yet, I still think there’s talent there 😂 

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Yeah, I don't think Ron has contempt for the genre. I think he clearly has contempt for the audience, especially the online audience that challenges him, and a very weird taste barometer. In his mind, anything is forgivable and acceptable because it's all the wild, diverse magic of soaps and unless he wants you to care about something like one of his overly-pushed favorites, you should never take it too seriously. IMO Ron is a guy who genuinely loves the genre but has lost perspective on his taste and on the issues with his writing a long time ago. His worst excesses have taken hold vs. the quality he was capable of. And his love for the genre has curdled into a love for his expansive yet narrow vision of it.

Jamey has always been very in love with '80s glam and camp and big names/stunts at the expense of coherence or rational storytelling. That isn't all he loves; at a few junctures in recent years he has admitted soaps have to move past that. There are also quality soaps, stories, etc. he has genuinely loved and had smart things to say about, as many times as he's also shown his ass online. But lately I think he's too enamored of finally getting to work with his idol to care.

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10 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Bloopers & Practical Jokes

No, seriously, what was going on in that promo?  Is Abe watching a soap opera from the '80's?  Because, judging from the way Dee and MBE looked, it played like a sketch from "Barbara Mandrell & the Mandrell Sisters."

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I have never liked Jamey Giddens commentary even before he had his own primetime show that FAILED. And failed bigtime. I can't even remember the name of the show because I never once watched it. Days can only get better with him gone. Yes, I get that Ron is the headwriter and he's still there but Jamey did him no favors. Buh bye Jamey!

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I still say I'm okay now with the camp as long as it's well-written camp.

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9 minutes ago, Khan said:

I still say I'm okay now with the camp as long as it's well-written camp.

Here's the thing about camp, you can't write camp. Camp simply...is.

All deliberate attempts to write camp fail.

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2 minutes ago, Darn said:

Here's the thing about camp, you can't write camp. Camp simply...is.

All deliberate attempts to write camp fail.

True, lol!

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26 minutes ago, Darn said:

Here's the thing about camp, you can't write camp. Camp simply...is.

All deliberate attempts to write camp fail.

Fo realz. I mean, camp happens organically and it's a moment to treasure in your heart. This, however, ain't it. At first, I was fooled as it did look somewhat nostalgic. Then cue the 3D wall paneling, wallpaper, and diapers.

Well, I hope they had fun at least. 🙃🙂

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I'm sorry, but I just don't get the joke of Abe seeing women who resemble Kayla and Marlena playing feuding females on TV.  Where will it lead to?  Will Abe be so addled-brained that when he sees them IRL, he'll freak out?  And why am I suddenly uncomfortable with the notion of an older African-American man who suddenly can't distinguish truth from fiction?

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