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Sometimes you shouldn’t revisit things, and I honestly think this was one of those cases. 

Even in the original series, I was never convinced that MPK was nothing more than an overhyped buffoon. In fact, I think the best season were when Darren Star was still there (the first 3 seasons). The latter 3 seasons were a mess and lacked the zest of the initial seasons, IMO. 

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2 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

Sometimes you shouldn’t revisit things, and I honestly think this was one of those cases. 

Even in the original series, I was never convinced that MPK was nothing more than an overhyped buffoon. In fact, I think the best season were when Darren Star was still there (the first 3 seasons). The latter 3 seasons were a mess and lacked the zest of the initial seasons, IMO. 

In the beginning, SATC was about four professional women asserting their (sexual) independence and taking advantage of all the sexual opportunities available to them in one of the biggest cities in the world.  It might not have been my cup of tea, but I thought the premise was fresh nonetheless.

Then, MPK (and SJP) come in; and suddenly, it's a horrid soap opera about a narcissistic shoe freak and the big swinging d*ck she keeps going back to no matter how many times he treats like her s**t.  So, AFAIC, I'm glad to see the whole thing die and die miserably, too, lol.

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I'll be in the minority on this one and say I'm sorry to see it go. Was the show great? No. Did it offer nostalgia and a look into the continuing lives of characters we loved decades ago? Yes. 

We'll never know what would've become of Roseanne 2.0 had Barr tried her best to portray herself as a semi sane person in real life, but what I do know is The Conners was a nice way to see the continuation of most of our favorites from Lanford, Illinois even if the show itself wasn't really that great or funny. It tapped into the nostalgia though. And for that, I don't feel I wasted my time on The Conners or And Just Like That. 

Also, I do think Season 3 was better. The crazy shenanigans with Miranda was over, and there was an easy-breezy feel to the season. Nothing gangbusters, nothing potentially noteworthy, but a decent pace. I'm glad Carrie let Aiden go. 

Che from Seasons 1 & 2 was just... no. I wish they had been able to keep Karen Pittman as Nya though. 

Anyways, my two cents. I get the feeling we haven't seen the last of these characters. Whether they're in NYC or retired and living together in Miami a la The Golden Girls, we will see them again. 

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I did not know Susan Fales-Hill, of A Different World fame, wrote on this and its finale. Yikes.

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Basically this show was a cash grab, like the out of touch 2nd movie.

Kim Cattrall was smart to sit this out because I dread to think what the show would have done to Samantha had she opted to be on either in a recurring, or full time cast member of the show.

With that said, I think it was perfectly in character for Samantha to have relocated from NYC due to the pandemic.. but out of character for her to cut off contact with Carrie and the others due to work related issues.   At least she was mentioned throughout the first two seasons and had a nice cameo in one of the episodes showing she was still fab and living her life.

Which of the three women do you all think wasn't ruined beyond repair?  Carrie? Miranda? Charlotte?
 

And which of the newbie female characters did you all think had good cast chemistry with the three main characters?

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What do I think about the finale? Well, they told at least 3 more seasons worth of story and character growth in the last 5 minutes of episode 12. I mean... it was so obvious the last part of the episode aka "the end" was written in last minute... to save face and MPK's reputation. To gaslight the public that they were not cancelled. They could have easily produced 2-3 more seasons (if they were successful and not so low in viewership) in which Carrie mentally travels to that exact location in life (Not alone, but on her own).

I am sure the initial plan was to have this season be the "breakup with Aidan" season with season 4 being more like SATC - Carrie dating different guys, being more carefree and getting that cynicism about relationships back. Having sex without any strings attached. And then she could have had at least one more Petrovsky type of affair (with some successful handsome older man) to have us cleanse our palate after the horrible Aidan Part 3 fiasco. And then she could have decided to be "not alone but on her own"... in season 5 or 6. That would have given us time to process her emotional journey instead of giving us pathetic lost Carrie for three seasons and then magically inserting a backbone and a fake catharsis (because of Aidan breaking a window and still thinking she is a tramp) in the last three minutes of a poop-themed episode. I mean WTH. I think the poop was a metaphor of how they think of the entire show at this point.

It was so sad and blatantly obvious how (after getting cancelled) MPK just tried to give us the final he envisioned for season 5 or 6. It just felt like we were watching the same stupid sitcomish jokes and all of a sudden... almost out of nowhere... we get the final curtain, the heroine suddenly realizes something she couldn't realize all her life... In the last couple of minutes. The end. Just like that. This is like making a series about Anna Karenina and after getting canceled in the middle of the story, you decide to finish the last episode with a voice over saying "And the woman dies in the end." It felt so inorganic and rushed... Even Carrie's little dance was bittersweet. This is the most shockingly sloppy finale of a series I've ever seen. If I was MPK or SJP... I probably won't be able to sleep for a few weeks knowing this is how everyone will last remember us. When SATC ended you remembered Paris, the bridge, Big saving her, beautiful scene with the girls, Carrie walking in the distance in the crowd of people. When you want to remember how AJLT ended you'll get a flashback of bizarre dancing and clogged toilet.

Pathetic and sad. But they have nobody else to blame but themselves. We tried making it happen. We turned hate watching into sport, but it was not enough to drive new viewers in. In the end it was so commercially (and creatively) unsuccessful... HBO had to put it out of it's misery.

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