Can't think of anyone to add to the list, so I'll just say that it wasn't just that the soaps copied Alexis, they copied the money and power structures from the primetime soaps. Sure there were some characters with money on daytime soaps before the primetime trend hit, but most of the soaps were still middle class oriented.

22 hours ago, SFK said:

Joan is Alexis, Alexis is Joan. Ttrying to recreate such a character is an impossible predicament. I watch the new Dynasty mostly out of brand loyalty/nostalgia/curiosity about its faithfulness to the original. I’m not passionate about the show, but I do watch. Nicolette worked just fine because she brought her own ‘80s primetime soap pedigree to the show which satisfied a certain nostalgia factor, while she in no way attempted to channel Joan, she was uniquely Nicolette. All of the crazy plastic surgery recasting mess just pushed me further and further away from my acceptance of this not-Alexis-but-Alexis and when I watch now I’m just constantly reminded of how I’m not watching Joan. This Alexis finally got this show’s version of her iconic penthouse the other episode and I couldn’t even get excited about that.

I think I would have preferred a prequel series with an actress playing a twentysomething young mother version of Joan’s Alexis. I would have loved to see Siân Phillips as Mrs. Morell.

Most ones I mentioned are the cast choices considered before Joan got the role the only ones who were my idea were Lana and Dorothy

By the way it's funny you mentioned Siân Phillips, if I'm not mistaken it was her portrayal of bitchy badass Matriarch Livia in I, Claudius (1976) that helped inspire Alexis

Daisy/Monique was introduced on AMC  in 1980, correct??

Anyway, she wasn’t really a bitch, was she??

Her backstory does have shades of Alexis, though (or vice versa).

Erica, while certainly a bitch, was more lighthearted than Alexis.

 

On 9/3/2021 at 3:53 PM, ReddFoxx said:

Can't think of anyone to add to the list, so I'll just say that it wasn't just that the soaps copied Alexis, they copied the money and power structures from the primetime soaps. Sure there were some characters with money on daytime soaps before the primetime trend hit, but most of the soaps were still middle class oriented.

Which soaps had wealthy families from the very start, predating the prime-time soaps of DALLAS and DYNASTY??

I can think of the Agnes Nixon soaps, with the Tyler Family (matriarch: Phoebe English Tyler, AMC) and the Lord Family (patriarch: Victor Lord, OLTL).

I don’t believe GH got one until the Quatermaine Family in the late ‘70s.

Edited September 7, 20214 yr by Pine Charles

9 hours ago, Pine Charles said:

Daisy/Monique was introduced on AMC  in 1980, correct??

Anyway, she wasn’t really a bitch, was she??

Her backstory does have shades of Alexis, though (or visa versa).

Erica, while certainly a bitch, was more lighthearted than Alexis.

 

Which soaps had wealthy families from the very start, predating the prime-time soaps of DALLAS and DYNASTY??

I can think of the Agnes Nixon soaps, with the Tyler Family (matriarch: Phoebe English Tyler, AMC) and the Lord Family (patriarch: Victor Lord, OLTL).

I don’t believe GH got one until the Quatermaine Family in the late ‘70s.

Yes Daisy was a nice woman, she was bitchy only to Palmer but he deserved she always wanted the best for her daughter Nina

You're right and Another World got the Matthews Family, with the Rich and the poor branches from the very beginning in 1964, GH only got their riches after the quatermaines got their start yes

Edited September 6, 20214 yr by Joseph

11 hours ago, Pine Charles said:

Which soaps had wealthy families from the very start, predating the prime-time soaps of DALLAS and DYNASTY??

1970s Y&R had the Chancellors and the Prentisses. Both pre-dated Dallas.

2 hours ago, kalbir said:

1970s Y&R had the Chancellors and the Prentisses. Both pre-dated Dallas.

And the Brooks right?

One of the points of this topic was discussing Alexis great Moments, this Season 3 one is certainly iconic

Alexis triumph over Blake is also undoubetly iconic 

And Alexis showed dear cousin "Sybil" not to cross her 

 

Wow going through this thread you tend to forget Alexis was a groundbreaking character 

There were not a lot of female characters calling the shots in movies, primetime tv, or soaps 

11 minutes ago, Frank2803 said:

Wow going through this thread you tend to forget Alexis was a groundbreaking character 

There were not a lot of female characters calling the shots in movies, primetime tv, or soaps 

i think that's Alexis major legacy, Powerful Women being more frequent on Entertainment, not that there weren't any before her but she made this type of woman being more commonly portrayed

Most definitely mid 1980s Brenda Dickson's Jill.