The Media/Journalism Thread

[Vee]

Lizza is apparently on leave from Politico per this case. He is more entrenched in the Beltway than Nuzzi so I don't see this ending well for her.

[DRW50]

 

[DramatistDreamer]

Funny, that I knew so very little about Nuzzi outside of the drip drips of her controversies, because I honestly had previously read almost none of her writing. Now it’s just so much messiness and I am feeling like I am reading entirely too much about her.

Have we really had a discussion about the news writers and journalists who are leaving legacy newspapers and news journals/outlets for the indie route (newsletters, social media platforms, etc.) and what, if any effect it will have on the nature of news reporting and news media?

[DRW50]

 

Some personal news Elon Musk followed me on X a couple years ago and has shared my work and been willing to respond to DMs about stories from time to time, including a back and forth we had for a story on the Secret Service last week. Earlier this week, when I respectfully approached him via DM about his Sunday claim that Biden-Harris was ‘fast-tracking’ illegal immigrants to vote and provided information showing that confirmed it was not the case, Mr. Musk unfollowed me and blocked me from DMing him and said asking him for comment for a story via DM was inappropriate — despite him being willing to engage in the past. We did reach out to one of his companies, but did not receive a response. Below is a link to our fact check on Mr. Musk's claims that Biden-Harris are flying migrants into the US and expeditiously granting them citizenship. Buried lede: It's absolutely false though we were unable to reach Mr. Musk for comment.

[DramatistDreamer]

New York Times finally published an in depth article chronicling Trump’s incoherent ramblings and incorrect memories with the underlying premise of his age being a factor. Of course, he’s a liar but the article mentioned his exclaiming that the crowd went wild for him during his debate with VP Harris. Except there was no crowd.

[janea4old]

 

Here's the link to that (it was on the Politics thread) ...
 

 

 

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Honestly, IMHO, some articles could go on either or both the Politics and Media threads.  Sometimes I just post stuff on the Politics thread if it has important updates. 
I don't know if it matters which we post where.

[DramatistDreamer]

@janea4oldOh wow, I had no idea it had been discussed/posted previously. For the past several days, I had only made scant appearances on this message board. I guess this might mean that the NYT is actually making some sort of effort to circulate this article but yeah, this was sort of a backhanded compliment to certain corners of the media for finally getting around to paying some attention to how great the deterioration of Trump has been over time, and the belated acknowledgment that it’s not just some business titan making zany comments here and there.

[Vee]

A series of good Harris polls today, but the Beltway media remains very pissed she's doing little people media (and y'know, also 60 Minutes, Univision, The View, etc):

 

[DRW50]

Frank Luntz is also going in on this.

You can really feel the media pushing hard for the Trump comeback, especially as the return to Butler hate rally fit many of their optics, stuff they can breathlessly point to as the "moment." He is in a good place with or without them (it doesn't mean he will win of course...), but they want to be there holding his gnarled hand in this glorious moment.

[Vee]

He's still behind and has been for maybe a month. Which is why they're trying to amp up the horserace.

I'm not seeing many major media calling his Butler rally anything but repugnant and/or strange. Unless we're pointing to Luntz, Cenk Uygur or the dead end left on Twitter, which really don't hold much sway over actual new voters (or Democrats). I'm reasonably confident we'll win though it is important to remain very vigilant. It's not the winning that concerns me most atm. It is the fallout from what happens after. Trump has primed his cult far worse than 2020 this time.

Edited October 8, 2024 by Vee

[Vee]

 

Since part of that seems unavoidably paywalled, you can find more here. Since NBC is now facing internal pressure from their own stars over this as well as Errol Morris, hopefully if Trump fails to acquiesce to a debate by the Thursday deadline they'll be forced to run it.

 

[j swift]

The right's outrage to the VP's appearance on Call Her Daddy is so predictable.  But, once again, Trump gets a pass when he appeared Adin Ross and Logan Paul's YouTube channels.  At least Alex Cooper can be legitimized by her deals with Spotify and Sirius, those guys are just video game streamers and NFT grifters.

Edited October 8, 2024 by j swift

[Vee]

Per some of what we discussed in the PT:

 

[Khan]

IOW, the Beltway media wants to play "Gotcha!" with the Democrats, and for once, Kamala Harris and Tim Walz are taking a hard pass.

[Vee]

Joe Kahn on the ropes: