I don't watch award shows, but on Twitter, I saw her hug someone after his win making it all about her.  She made such a spectacle and it was intentional.  

I don't watch award shows, but on Twitter, I saw her hug someone after his win making it all about her.  She made such a spectacle and it was intentional.  

It was Ed Sheeran who won for song of the year. I thought it was a bit much too….LOL

yet artists like Azalea Banks, who is also stank as !@#$%^&*], struggles to find success because of her attitude. How convenient. 

Well, she needs to stop getting in twitter fights, swearing at people, or getting into fights on a plane.  Maybe she needs to just concentrate on her music instead of all that foolishness. 

I don't watch award shows, but on Twitter, I saw her hug someone after his win making it all about her.  She made such a spectacle and it was intentional.  

It was Ed Sheeran who won for song of the year. I thought it was a bit much too….LOL

That's how you celebrate when a close friend of yours wins their first Grammy.  

I heard that the Beavs won an award. What was it for? It wasn't even shown. I was so disappointed in this years show. 

What are some examples?  And there's nothing wrong in knowing how to manipulate the media. Being a celebrity of her stature is very hard but you have to know how to handle things so you don't lose control, so you don't flame out like many other artists have. 

Just about everything as it relates to her love life and who she was dating pre-Calvin Harris was planted and engineered by her team (that and the need to appear in public spaces with various men for a photo opportunities to feed into stories about who she was dating). Now she's just reverted to passive aggressive public behavior to keep fanning the flames  - see MissLlandviewPA's post about her Grammy speech. It would have been nice if she owned her behavior, but instead goes for the wounded victim route, which makes her look very fake. I am not her for any passive aggression from privileged celebrities.  

But like I said, people aren't going to buy Kanye's album because of this publicity.  If he's trying to get great albums sales, he's doing a poor job doing it - he's been ranting on twitter than he's only going to put his album up on Tidal.   Taylor was already going to get all the publicity during the Grammys anyway, so she had nothing to gain here. 

 

Having a little bit of controversy is not going to severely hurt your career, as long as nothing major happens where you start to lose your fanbase.  There's always going to be people who pick you apart and try to take you down whenever possible. 

With Kanye, it keeps his name in the press and he has something to talk about when promoting this album. It brings attention to him and the new project he's about to release. Taylor's just a publicity whore (who pretends she's not, IMO), she loves any bit of controversy that can keep her name in the press. My thing wasn't about this impacting her career, I just find it obnoxious at this point, and that's my personal feeling. 

Yeah, so?  What Adele did doesn't diminish Taylor's success.  They are both very successful in their own right. 

They are. You were the one that brought up commercial stats. As a personal point, I was just glad that Adele is able to do what she's doing without the publicity machine Taylor has behind her (and selling more - Taylor will never score a diamond album in her career). 

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Only Kanye disgusts me. He has no real talent and is only famous for marrying one of the Kardashian skanks

HUH?? I'm no huge Kanye supporter, but why are we ignoring the fact that he was a hugely successful rapper and producer for an entire decade before he married Kim? "Real talent" is subjective (and clearly there are plenty enough people who think he has it), but let's not pretend he hasn't worked for his success.

Adele was painfully flat throughout her entire performance.

Edited February 17, 20169 yr by All My Shadows

 

Just about everything as it relates to her love life and who she was dating pre-Calvin Harris was planted and engineered by her team (that and the need to appear in public spaces with various men for a photo opportunities to feed into stories about who she was dating). 

Yeah, that's plausible.  It's the game celebrities play.  It's not the worst thing someone can do. 

 

 

With Kanye, it keeps his name in the press and he has something to talk about when promoting this album. It brings attention to him and the new project he's about to release. Taylor's just a publicity whore (who pretends she's not, IMO), she loves any bit of controversy that can keep her name in the press. My thing wasn't about this impacting her career, I just find it obnoxious at this point, and that's my personal feeling.

But the point of a publicity stunt is being able to sell something.  If you do something to make yourself look bad, that's not helping you.  For example, the Beyonce/Jay Z/Solange elevator incident.  Beyonce and Jay were going on Tour, but that incident only made Solange look bad.  From Taylor's perspective, she had very little to gain since it was already Grammy week - she was going to get press no matter what.  Now, if you go the conspiracy route and say Taylor knew she was going to win, so she and Kanye hatched up this plan which would culminate at the Grammys so Taylor can make her big speech (which is getting a ton of raves and support). 

 

 

Taylor will never score a diamond album in her career

 

In America, it's going to take a long time but I think Fearless and 1989 will - 1989 will get their first.  Worldwide, 1989 is going to get 10 million very soon. 

 

 

"Real talent" is subjective (and clearly there are plenty enough people who think he has it), but let's not pretend he hasn't worked for his success.

I agree with that statement, and naturally, I apply it to my girl as well.  LOL       As far as Kanye's music, he's not as good as he was before (as a producer and rapper).  His early stuff was so good.   I hated his last album and from the two songs I heard on SNL, I have a bad feeling for this new album. 

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I respect Taylor Swift's drive and some of her songs are also good. She's also managed to navigate the industry better than many, especially these days where people are eagerly awaiting a backlash. 

 

I think what annoys me most with her is this "squad" which is passed off as female empowerment but instead feels cliqueish and like a very forced PR exercise.

I think what annoys me most with her is this "squad" which is passed off as female empowerment but instead feels cliqueish and like a very forced PR exercise.

A clique is exclusive though.  Taylor brings in a lot of people into her circle.  I think "celebrity gangs" are neat....the Rat Pack, the Brat Pack, Leonardo Dicaprio's Pussy Posse.....I don't remember any others in the 2000's.....am I missing a crew?.........and now there's Taylor's Squad.  

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I think what annoys me most with her is this "squad" which is passed off as female empowerment but instead feels cliqueish and like a very forced PR exercise.

A clique is exclusive though.  Taylor brings in a lot of people into her circle.  I think "celebrity gangs" are neat....the Rat Pack, the Brat Pack, Leonardo Dicaprio's !@#$%^&*] Posse.....I don't remember any others in the 2000's.....am I missing a crew?.........and now there's Taylor's Squad.  

The problem is this is passed off as some type of sister power, which just grates on me, especially given some of the women in this group.

Only Kanye disgusts me. He has no real talent and is only famous for marrying one of the Kardashian skanks

HUH?? I'm no huge Kanye supporter, but why are we ignoring the fact that he was a hugely successful rapper and producer for an entire decade before he married Kim? "Real talent" is subjective (and clearly there are plenty enough people who think he has it), but let's not pretend he hasn't worked for his success.

Adele was painfully flat throughout her entire performance.

 

Here's what happened with Adele. At least she has a good sense of humor about it all!

 

 

 

 

 

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I don't believe that 'sister power' at all given that many of them have been reported to be b-tchy behind the scenes and the fact they've all shared similar men. I always view that entire clique as them keeping foes and competition closer. I never believe the sisterhood crap. IMO, I believe Taylor, the ringleader, rides off the back of the women, who are hot in the press or some form of the media at the time. Look how she took to Serayah, who no one knew previous of Empire, or Zendaya, once the dreads/weed controversy took place. Taylor is a good ole' fashioned succubus.

I think what annoys me most with her is this "squad" which is passed off as female empowerment but instead feels cliqueish and like a very forced PR exercise.

A clique is exclusive though.  Taylor brings in a lot of people into her circle.  I think "celebrity gangs" are neat....the Rat Pack, the Brat Pack, Leonardo Dicaprio's !@#$%^&*] Posse.....I don't remember any others in the 2000's.....am I missing a crew?.........and now there's Taylor's Squad.  

 

The problem is this is passed off as some type of sister power, which just grates on me, especially given some of the women in this group.

I've never been on the T. Swift train. I've always noticed how fake she was. That's why I always commended Katy Perry for calling her out last year about being all 'woman power' but known to try and take down other women behind the scenes. 

 

Never get why people love this twig so much.

I'm not a big fan of Taylor but from a behind the scenes and I guess insider view, everyone loves her because she's a genuinely nice person who cares and treats everyone with respect. Most of the people I work with would tell you that she's the nicest and most pleasant celebrity they've ever had to deal with. Ina  business where you have people shouting at you nonstop, showing up hours late, and generally being horrible, someone like Taylor being nice, police, and pleasant goes a long way and makes her stand out.

 

Just on a personal note, when my mother was dying of cancer, Taylor came to where I work for a story and photoshoot. I was suppose to be there for the story but was with my mother at hospital and when she and her staff heard, they reached out and offered their personal condolences and prayers. When they also learned that my little sister, who was 9 at the time, is a huge Taylor Swift fan, they sent her basically a care package and Swift sent her a personal note. It's acts like that and everything else I've heard about her that makes me appreciate her as a person and I'm sure it's the same for a lot of the people in the industry. Kindness goes a long way.

I've never been on the T. Swift train. I've always noticed how fake she was. That's why I always commended Katy Perry for calling her out last year about being all 'woman power' but known to try and take down other women behind the scenes. 

 

Never get why people love this twig so much.

 

I'm not a big fan of Taylor but from a behind the scenes and I guess insider view, everyone loves her because she's a genuinely nice person who cares and treats everyone with respect. Most of the people I work with would tell you that she's the nicest and most pleasant celebrity they've ever had to deal with. Ina  business where you have people shouting at you nonstop, showing up hours late, and generally being horrible, someone like Taylor being nice, police, and pleasant goes a long way and makes her stand out.

 

Just on a personal note, when my mother was dying of cancer, Taylor came to where I work for a story and photoshoot. I was suppose to be there for the story but was with my mother at hospital and when she and her staff heard, they reached out and offered their personal condolences and prayers. When they also learned that my little sister, who was 9 at the time, is a huge Taylor Swift fan, they sent her basically a care package and Swift sent her a personal note. It's acts like that and everything else I've heard about her that makes me appreciate her as a person and I'm sure it's the same for a lot of the people in the industry. Kindness goes a long way.

That's nice to hear that she did that for you, your sister, and your mother. Glad to hear that she is kind behind the scenes too, but there is still some skepticism from me when it comes to that woman. 

I think my main thing with Taylor is that she reminds me of too many girls I went to school with and they all annoyed tf out of me (and STILL do whenever I"m around them).