If I ever bash a show, its because I watch it consistently LOL lately if people have noticed I've been pretty much bashing Y&R left right and centre, because it has let me down, a viewer of over 10 years.

Why do u think the Days and Passions cast rarely get acting noms?

For the same reason that Bree Williamson did not get a nomination this year

And that is all I will say.

For the same reason that Bree Williamson did not get a nomination this year

And that is all I will say.

They overlooked her..which was completely rude!! She can act circles around most of the Days and Passions cast.

They overlooked her..which was completely rude!! She can act circles around most of the Days and Passions cast.

I like you a lot Claude and for that reason I won't even dignify that last remark with a comment - out of respect for our friendship.

I would never make a comment about a show you watch like the one you just made. They are all overlooked in the same way.

I like you a lot Claude and for that reason I won't even dignify that last remark with a comment - out of respect for our friendship.

I would never make a comment about a show you watch like the one you just made. They are all overlooked in the same way.

It is all fine with me Steve. Anyways....i was hoping AMC or OLTL would have passed GH this past week in the ratings.

If you will look back at my post I did not say you did not have a right to post your opinion. YOu know what they say about opinions - they are like a certain body part - we all have them.

What I did say was that it is irresponsible to post an opinion about a show that you have only watched a few times. Having the right to do something and doing it does not make it a wise thing to do many times. Just be aware that sometimes if we are going to step into the fire we have to accept the heat. We all have our rights but we have to accept the consequences of our actions in exercising those rights many times.

The posts you have made today and yesterday are the first posts you have even made on this board. By making your firsts posts on this message board about bashing a soap that you don't even watch regular, you have angered other posters and made yourself look very bad. I for one would not ever respect or take to heart anything you say again even if it is about the soaps that you watch regularly.

First of all I have watched more than a handful of episodes. Second of all, it's not my fault that the show sucked when I watched it. Occasionally I do glance at other soaps that I don't regularly watched. I found AMC and OLTL and even Passions to be watchable and the acting good. But I guess those opinions aren't valuable either. I guess I shouldn't say those shows are decent without watching more than a few episodes.

When I first started watching Y&R and GL (the first two soaps I watched regularly), I didn't have to watch more than one episode to know that I liked the show and was going to be tuning in the next day to see what happened next. Days is totally the opposite. And I'm sorry if you don't like my opinion, but to get angry over it is childish and absurd. I could care less if someone is angry because of my opinion. If I had came here and bashed other posters then I could see why someone would be mad.

Here's a little question..if I had watched Days for the first time today and said I thought it was a good show with good actors, would I be getting bashed for making such a quick opinion after one episode??

It doesnt matter how long u have watched a show. I watched Passions for 2 straight years when it premiered. I quit after that..because it was outrageous and too cartoonish and crazy for my liking. Out of the whole cast...there were only 4 that really stood out for me. This show has poor actors and actresses..plain and simple. As for Days...i have watched it on and off here and there. I used to watch it all the time back in the 80s. Nowadays....i find it cheesy and lacks awesome acting!! Out of the cast..there are maybe 4 or 5 terrific performers. I find Days fake and cheesy..just like Passions!! This is nothing new for me ..i have said it a few times!! Why do u think the Days and Passions cast rarely get acting noms?

I agree with you, especially the last line. I just find the acting to be too cartoonish for my tastes and maybe the Emmy people agree, who knows. But if anyone else likes it, good for them. Diff'rent strokes for Diff'rent folks.

Rise OLTL...rise!! Where are all the fans?

They are watching GH and AMC, that's where the OLTL fans are

They are watching GH and AMC, that's where the OLTL fans are

Say's you....but not all true!!

The next time one of you soap opera 'experts' do a critique of a show you only catch during commercial breaks from another soap, remember the old pot-kettle-black phrase. There are plenty of soapaholics here who do not watch all nine soap operas but pretend they possess the knowledge of someone who does.

Well said Miss Trudy Where ya been? I've been missing reading your posts

Well said Miss Trudy Where ya been? I've been missing reading your posts

You sweetheart! Flattery will get you everywhere! I have been raising a little hell in other parts of the world but I have now returned home. What a nice surprise to see my little Guiding Light jumping up to a 2.5 for a couple days. I bet we will be seeing more Lewises soon if this trend continues!

GL is really the only soap over the past year-two years which has neither lost much audience or gained any, talk about consistent!

You sweetheart! Flattery will get you everywhere! I have been raising a little hell in other parts of the world but I have now returned home. What a nice surprise to see my little Guiding Light jumping up to a 2.5 for a couple days. I bet we will be seeing more Lewises soon if this trend continues!

I hope that is true Miss Trudy. I have always loved the Lewis family. I really loved Mindy - loved just about all the actresses who played her.

To comment on "Guiding Light"...the Monday episode aired on a federal holiday - Presidents Day, and most (if not all) soaps benefit from a government holiday. As far as last week goes, only "One Life to Live" scored lower (a 2.8 vs. a 2.9 the week prior); "All My Children" stayed the same (3.1), while all the others increased (except for NBC's soaps, which were pre-empted for Olympic coverage).

The Wednesday episodes, "Inside the Light" have had decidedly mixed results. Over the past 6 weeks, those episodes have fallen between a 2.1 and a 2.5 rating. Two weeks the Wednesday episode tied for the lowest daily rating for the soap. This past week when it scored a 2.5 was the higest individual rating for a Wednesday episode and tied for the highet daily rating for the soap.

As far as whether Nielsen will count Monday's ratings: yes. Regardless of being a federal holiday, Monday was still a regular day ratings-wise. Allowing the Monday ratings to be counted may seem unfair to fans of the two pre-empted soaps, but not calculating them would be unfair to the other seven soaps.

Now for my rant...

Concerning the issue of sweeps stunts. I don't see anything wrong with sweeps "stunts", but they shouldn't come at the expense of other storylines. I am only a regular viewer of "As the World Turns" and "The Young and the Restless", but I try to know enough about the other seven to carry on a discussion about them. It seems to me that the producers/writers at the ABC soaps (perhaps on orders from ABC Daytime honcho Brian Frons) forsake existing storylines for the previously mentioned storylines. At "General Hospital" for instance, the epidemic storyline virtually froze the action in place. One developing storyline - Lucas' coming out to his family - was mentioned only in passing and was only advanced by his quick revelation to his (now deceased) father. If a soap sidelines the regular action in favor of "showstopper stunts", it cheats the casual viewer by not giving them a reason to stick around after the stunt is over. A hallmark of a good writer is to allow the big stunt to occur while existing storylines continue to playout (and possibly start some new ones). Failure to do so results in the yo-yo ratings of big increases during sweeps and an equally big crash once sweeps conclude.

Another writing compaint is the time given to a single storyline. I'll use the Lucas/GH storyline as an example again. Seemingly over the course of a week to 10 days, Lucas chose to include his group of friends in on his sexual orientation. By doing so, he raised the attention of a homophobic bar patron who attacked him in the park. After returning to seek revenge, he angrily comes out to everyone else in the middle of a police station. Compare that to a similar storyline on CBS's "As the World Turns". Fellow teen Luke is also struggling with his sexual identity and the idea of telling his parents whom he fears won't understand. Only this week (March 3) did Luke actually utter the word "gay", one day after his father expressed concern over his son's orientation. The audience was allowed to invest in the storyline over a period of several weeks and see Luke's interest in a male friend evolve from friendship to attraction and the concern that it caused Luke. The writers at ATWT didn't feel the need to rush the storyline but allow it to play out in a timely manner - even scheduling the big reveal after February sweeps (even though viewers had long since guessed the character's orientation on their own). One similar storyline, two difference networks and soaps, and two different ways of telling the story. Personally I prefer ATWT's method - it allows viewers to become more invested in the story and characters, which in turn, will likely cause the viewer to tune in more frequently.

The real problem soaps have now in writing is the lack of an iconic figure in the writers room. Once upon a time there was Irna Phillips, then Agnes Nixon, followed by William J. Bell, Sr., and later by Doug Marland, among other notables like Harding LeMay and Henry Slesar. The only person who comes close to filling the gap today (love him or hate him) is James E. Reilly. Of these I mentioned, only Nixon is still alive, and although she retains consulting credits on her ABC soaps, "All My Children" and "One Life to Live", her involvement is more of a figurehead nature. (LeMay is still living, but retired.) In today's industry, executives are quick to fire a writer or producer at the first hint of a ratings decline. It is increasingly likely that the 20+ year stints like Slesar had at "Edge of Night" (which was cancelled one year after his firing) and Bell at Y&R are never to be repeated.

I will always take the position that writing is the corner stone of soaps. When the genre first appeared, it was the stories (and the writing) that lured viewers in. Attractive actors never hurt, but that model-turned-actor wouldn't have anything to say if it weren't for writers. If, as some have suggested, the problem is in dialogue, head writers usually do not actually write dialogue - instead they create the widerange, long term plot lines and leave associate writers to actually pen the daily scripts.

Ultimately, if the quality of the writing improves, coupled with improved quality in acting, then soaps can begin a long journey in gaining back the viewers who have left the genre.