I could swear Lucious said "watchoo talking bout, Willis" in the limo when Vernon was telling him about Kid Fofo. I died.

He definitely said that. He's had a few witty, low key lines.

I don't think Cookie violated the gag order to Lucious woman

Cookie didn't mean to violate the gag order, but she certainly did. Anika and Lucious aren't even married. I think Chit is right and Anika will use this info to blackmail Lucious down the line. Too bad for her she doesn't know that Lucious doesn't have a lot to lose and will put a bullet in her head, just like he did Bucky. I absolutely believe he's capable of it.

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I want to know what's up between Lucious and his maid.

I'm betting she's a relative.

He definitely said that. He's had a few witty, low key lines.

Cookie didn't mean to violate the gag order, but she certainly did. Anika and Lucious aren't even married. I think Chit is right and Anika will use this info to blackmail Lucious down the line. Too bad for her she doesn't know that Lucious doesn't have a lot to lose and will put a bullet in her head, just like he did Bucky. I absolutely believe he's capable of it.

Cookie thought Lucious told Anika.

Cookie thought Lucious told Anika.

Matters not. A gag order means you keep your mouth shut! Its a contract, and Cookie certainly received her part of the mutual consideration.

It's kind of weird how much I'm looking forward to tonight's episode. I haven't been this psyched about a show since Sleepy Hollow and that show turned to weapons-grade [!@#$%^&*]. I hope that Empire can sustain the buzz but I feel like a backlash is inevitable.

Well, a lot of critics already hate it, so if there is one it'll come from the audience. I don't expect a major issue til Season 2, when a lot of recent nighttime soaps start struggling.

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Well, a lot of critics already hate it, so if there is one it'll come from the audience. I don't expect a major issue til Season 2, when a lot of recent nighttime soaps start struggling.

That's true. Revenge completely came apart in S2.

It's kind of weird how much I'm looking forward to tonight's episode.

That's how I feel too.

A nice little interview with one of the writers. They touch on the language issue and embracing the "soap opera" label.

http://tvline.com/2015/01/21/empire-fox-preview-cookie-fbi-gay-jamal/

Bryshere (Hakeem) interview:

http://allhiphop.com/2015/01/21/exclusive-bryshere-yazz-the-greatest-gray-empire-taraji-p-henson-terrence-howard/

A nice little interview with one of the writers. They touch on the language issue and embracing the "soap opera" label.

http://tvline.com/2015/01/21/empire-fox-preview-cookie-fbi-gay-jamal/

One of the writers? More like, the writer--the showrunner. LOL

Anyway, I thought this was very interesting. She certainly seems excited about the show and I'm glad Strong and Daniels are clearly keeping an eye and setting down some ground rules. I hope they continue just like that.

Meh at her claiming that EMPIRE is better than all the 80s soaps. Better than DYNASTY season 3-8? Sure. But it has much more to prove and show if it will surpass some of DYNASTY, DALLAS and KNOTS LANDING's best seasons. MUCH more. The only thing I agree with is there is a lot of everyday realness to EMPIRE and, as with almost any show now compared to then, certainly more realistic dialogue and better production values.

That's true. Revenge completely came apart in S2.

Revenge should never have gone beyond season 1 anyway, due to its premise. Empire has a lot more to work with, even more so if it stays committed to being edgy. Its family drama, business drama, and gangster drama all rolled into one.

Revenge should never have gone beyond season 1 anyway, due to its premise. Empire has a lot more to work with, even more so if it stays committed to being edgy. Its family drama, business drama, and gangster drama all rolled into one.

It should have been a miniseries. I stopped watching mid S1. Too contrived. All those folks popping up each week whom Emily/Amanda owed revenge? REEEEEEdiculous! I've only recently tuned in to see Tommy Flanagan.

One of the writers? More like, the writer--the showrunner. LOL

Anyway, I thought this was very interesting. She certainly seems excited about the show and I'm glad Strong and Daniels are clearly keeping an eye and setting down some ground rules. I hope they continue just like that.

Meh at her claiming that EMPIRE is better than all the 80s soaps. Better than DYNASTY season 3-8? Sure. But it has much more to prove and show if it will surpass some of DYNASTY, DALLAS and KNOTS LANDING's best seasons. MUCH more. The only thing I agree with is there is a lot of everyday realness to EMPIRE and, as with almost any show now compared to then, certainly more realistic dialogue and better production values.

Yeah, I agree that it's too soon to go there. I don't blame her for wanting to give her show some hype and get the audience pumped up. At the same time, don't put yourself in the company of the greats until you've earned it. I really have my fingers crossed here that they can keep the momentum going, but I've been disappointed before.

Yeah, I agree that it's too soon to go there. I don't blame her for wanting to give her show some hype and get the audience pumped up. At the same time, don't put yourself in the company of the greats until you've earned it. I really have my fingers crossed here that they can keep the momentum going, but I've been disappointed before.

There was just something that didn't sit well with me about her saying that they're much more and much better than just a soap opera. I thought we weren't going to have to deal with that with this show. In any case, I (and I suspect many more) have been on such a high the past three weeks with this show, that I forgot that most network shows I've seen that have started off really well in their first season (like EMPIRE did) tend to crash and burn in season 2. Let's hope they prove me wrong! I'm in it for as long as it lasts!