I forgot to mention how disappointed I was in Lucious trying to pay Camila off. I wanted him to seduce her away from Hakeem and set Hakeem up to catch them in the act...then drop her. if they are going to make Lucious an outright villain then make him a villain worth talking about!

Edited March 13, 201510 yr by ajsp35801

Funny that you guys mention Kate O'Mara because I was reminded of Bianca Jagger on The Colbys.

I remember people saying Sara Bibel use to write for soaps. She was at the screening of the last to episodes. This what she had to say, EmpireEmmy non-spoiler: there was a moment that made the audience scream so long & so loud that no one could hear the next scene

Camille's final words to Lucious were so well delivered. I didn't think Naomi had the chops for a scene like that, and I'm so glad IO was wrong!

Cookie+ Malcolm= Fuego!!!!!!

Voila!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH4SkHXm-BE

Here's what I think is a full stream of the cast and crew's live Emmy panel Q&A. Apparently Taraji may have thrown shade at Person of Interest, but I didn't watch the show and I am not clear on that.

There is a hilarious anecdote somewhere between 30 and 40 mins in where Lee Daniels and Danny Strong talk about Taraji and Terrence Howard doing a chemistry test despite all the preexisting evidence, and Taraji slapping the hell out of him as Cookie. Daniels' response: "Alright, bitch, you got the part." Taraji dominates the Q&A a lot and the whole thing gets pretty hilarious. "30 inches of hair, bitch! Terrence, you talk. And don't say nothin' crazy 'cause I'll bust you in the mouth!"

Aaand here's the YT link for the First Look at next week.

Edited March 13, 201510 yr by Vee

I guess I might be the only person that doesn't love Malcolm or want Cookie dating him.

I guess I might be the only person that doesn't love Malcolm or want Cookie dating him.

I hope Lucious kills him!

Mo...that article about Latinos you wrote about earlier in the thread. Can you provide a link please? I'm curious.

I hope Lucious kills him!

Oh..I thought I was the only one longing for his traitorous heart to stop beating at the hands of Lucious. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a juicy storyline. But it was poorly handled with minimal buildup. Because of the lack of development, I can't discern why Cookie wants him other than he's supposed to be sexy and brooding. Couple that with my lack of attraction to him, I feel no connection to this story.

Mo...that article about Latinos you wrote about earlier in the thread. Can you provide a link please? I'm curious.

I got to go through twitter for that piece. I been trying to look for it.

Oh..I thought I was the only one longing for his traitorous heart to stop beating at the hands of Lucious. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a juicy storyline. But it was poorly handled with minimal buildup. Because of the lack of development, I can't discern why Cookie wants him other than he's supposed to be sexy and brooding. Couple that with my lack of attraction to him, I feel no connection to this story.

ITA about the lack of buildup but at this point I just accept that as S1 Empire and hope they work out the bugs for S2.

Personally I like the story because I want to see who Cookie is without Lucious. I don't care if it's Puma or Malcolm or that guy eating cereal at Ghetto Ass Studios, I just want Cookie to have something and someone that isn't about Lucious. Also, she's only been with one man her whole life? Eff that noise. It's time for her to let somebody else visit the Y.

Edited March 13, 201510 yr by marceline

Oh..I thought I was the only one longing for his traitorous heart to stop beating at the hands of Lucious. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a juicy storyline. But it was poorly handled with minimal buildup. Because of the lack of development, I can't discern why Cookie wants him other than he's supposed to be sexy and brooding. Couple that with my lack of attraction to him, I feel no connection to this story.

No you are not. Why should Lucious let that clown live? It's unprofessional of him to do that, and Cookie belongs to/with Lucious! But I have to say, if Chaiken doesn't screw this up (hush, Vee), it would be a damn good story!

And yes, for him to just walk up into Cookie's office and declare his feelings out of nowhere? Um no! Not feeling it. 18 eppies, please! But I'm afraid giving Chaiken more eppies means more time to do the same. She's a clown (hush, Vee)!

ITA about the lack of buildup but at this point I just accept that as S1 Empire and hope they work out the bugs for S2.

Personally I like the story because I want to see who Cookie is without Lucious. I don't care if it's Puma or Malcolm or that guy eating cereal at Ghetto Ass Studios, I just want Cookie to have something and someone that isn't about Lucious. Also, she's only been with one man her whole life? Eff that noise. It's time for her to let somebody else visit the Y.

I actually wanted the guy from the studio. He's sexy!!!

But I guess this story is why they made a point of saying that Cookie had only been with one man. She will get her "virgin like" love scene.

Here's the article Mo was talking about