On 10/14/2023 at 12:30 PM, JAS0N47 said:

WEEKLY DAYTIME RATINGS CHARTS BEING POSTED HERE:

I've started posting all of the weekly Nielsen charts that were posted here from 1980-1983 on yearly pages at my website, so all of the 1980-Present ratings charts will be available on this index page. 1978-1979 and 1984-1987 will be posted there in the coming days, with 1988 & 1989 to follow once they are posted here.  Click here for all weekly Nielsen charts available from 1980-Present: http://www.jason47.com/days/nielsensweekly.html 

Very nice!! Thanks for all you do. 

On 10/15/2023 at 12:48 PM, JAS0N47 said:

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 8/31/87-9/4/87 & 9/7/87-9/11/87: (FINAL WEEK OF OLD SYSTEM...POSTING TO JUST SHOW THE COMPARISON...THE RATINGS TO BE USED FOR THIS WEEK ARE THE NEW PEOPLE METER RATINGS AS LISTED BELOW):

 

 

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 8/31/87-9/4/87 & 9/7/87-9/11/87: DEBUT OF THE PEOPLE METER SYSTEM...THESE ARE THE NUMBERS USED FOR THESE TWO WEEKS:

 

 

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 9/14/87-9/18/87 & 9/21/87-9/25/87:

 

Thanks for showing both!

WEEKLY DAYTIME RATINGS CHARTS FOR 1985 NOW POSTED...

https://www.jason47.com/days/ratings1985.html

 

Also, explanatory notes have been added to the 1980's pages to explain the columns and the meaning of the "fast national" weeks, whose numbers are not counted towards the yearly averages of soaps (something Nielsen ended in 1987).

 

1986-1989 will be posted soon.  Click here for all weekly Nielsen charts available from 1980-Present: https://www.jason47.com/days/nielsensweekly.html

 

Edited October 16, 20232 yr by JAS0N47

So far fall 1987 has lots of movement in the top half. Pre-emptions and Nielsen people meters making a mess of things. 

I was expecting to see pre-emptions on October 19, 1987 for coverage of the stock market crash.

52 minutes ago, kalbir said:

So far fall 1987 has lots of movement in the top half. Pre-emptions and Nielsen people meters making a mess of things. 

I was expecting to see pre-emptions on October 19, 1987 for coverage of the stock market crash.

There might have been numerous partial preemptions that day, but for the week of 10/19, we only know that all the soaps aired 5 episodes that week that were all counted as part of the yearly averages. If they were "breakouts", they would not have been listed in the regular telecast column in the 10/26 issue.

On 10/13/2023 at 11:40 PM, JAS0N47 said:

UPDATE: On 11/3/19, VR posted this: "I’m going to suspend posting the Daytime TV magazine ratings because I have a better source and have found weekly ratings pretty much from 1985 on, with a few missing weeks. But in the meantime, to confuse everyone even more, I have found that the ratings posted in Daytime TV’s March 1987 issue were the actual ratings for week of August 25-29, 1986 and the April, 1987 issue showed the ratings from October 6-10, 1986. So the magazine was several months behind - even moreso than I thought. It will be much more clearer going forward for me to post clearly defined ratings -ratings for a specific week, instead of these were in Daytime TV but I don’t know which week they represent. Look forward to sharing this stuff that was in my basement."

So, we now know these complete weekly ratings were in VR's basement in 2019. Where are they now in 2023??

 

In a later post about the Iran-Contra week, VR states "The week of 7/6 to 7/10/1987 has to be taken with a grain of salt because Y&R aired only on Monday that week and there were massive pre emptions. AMC, DOOL,LOV and RH had the least pre-emptions."

 

So, obviously VR had some sort of Nielsen lists which even listed the preemption dates (not ever posted in soap magazines), so that points to some "un-final" Nielsen lists in VR's possession.

 

I did contact someone at SON tonight to see if it was possible for them to still be able to find VR's email address (when last a member at SON in 2020) and to email them and tell them that Jason47 would like to get those two specific weeks of Nielsens. So, that's as much as I can do to track down VR. Now we wait!

 

Just checking this thread PAGE by PAGE, has found that VR did post the 12/14/87 weekly ratings, yay! (I didn't find that week originally by doing a general search in the search box, but did now by reading through this thread):

 

12/14/87-12/18/1987

AMC 8.2

OLTL 8.1

GH 8.1

Y&R 7.9

DOOL 6.8

ATWT 6.7

GL 5.9

B&B 5.3

SB 5.2

AW 5.1

LOV 4.2

RH 3.2

 

I stopped checking the thread, but it looks like the 12/14/87 ratings post was VR's last-ever post of ratings data. Of all the years for VR to post, they post 1987, the one year that helps fill-in our two last missing weeks (other than 8/24/81, a fast weekly week).  What are the odds of that?? Yay, VR, whoever you are!!

 

Ok, so now we need contact from VR to confirm the shares and preemption data for the two weeks from 1987. And preferably to email me scans of those two weeks. Fingers crossed! 

 

UPDATE # 1: SON was nice enough to pass along my message to the email they have for VR, so hopefully it is still an active email address. If not, then we are at a dead end in regards to VR's data.

UPDATE # 2: I forgot how quickly emails come back if the email address no longer exists. I got the "no longer exists" email back already, so VR's email no longer exists. 

Edited October 17, 20232 yr by JAS0N47

Wow it's been more than 3 years since VR was banned. Time flies!

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 10/26/87-10/30/87 & 11/2/87-11/6/87:

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 11/9/87-11/13/87 & 11/16/87-11/20/87:

Edited October 17, 20232 yr by JAS0N47

ATWT:

James is "murdered".

Ruxton Hills goes up in flames due to an explosion.

Holden finds Lily having sex with Dusty.

 

1 hour ago, JAS0N47 said:

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 10/26/87-10/30/87 & 11/2/87-11/6/87:

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 11/9/87-11/13/87 & 11/16/87-11/20/87:

Competition with the top 5 is fierce. Very close. Restless beginning to displace GH.

@Soapsuds That As the World Turns episode you described was an early 2000s holiday classic.

1 hour ago, JoeCool said:

Competition with the top 5 is fierce. Very close.

Y&R, ABC big three, Days are jockeying for position in the top 5.

Supercouple Days successfully transitioned from the Bo/Hope years to the Steve/Kayla years.

Marland As the World Turns was doing well and regularily finishing in the top 5 but I wonder if the time slot change, pre-emptions, and Nielsen people meters derailed their momentum.

Guiding Light appears to have gained lost ground with Pamela Long back as HW.

Santa Barbara has been finishing ahead of Another World recently but I don't think that will last. From the annual ratings Santa Barbara never finished ahead of Another World.

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 11/23/87-11/27/87 & 11/30/87-12/4/87:

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 12/7/87-12/11/87 & 12/14/87-12/18/87:

Note: Ratings data comes from both a 2019 Soap Opera Network post by VanessaReardon, who seems to have had access to Nielsen data from the 1985-1988 time frame, and a more recent find of a Daytime TV Magazine, which confirms those ratings & provides the shares. As the note states, preemption data has been confirmed by comparing the # of telecasts in the 12/7 Nielsen book to the # of telecasts in the 12/21 book. This confirms that there were no full preemptions for any soap this week, but it is unknown if there were any partial preemptions this week.

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 12/21/87-12/25/87 & 12/28/87-1/1/88:

Edited December 28, 20231 yr by JAS0N47

The week between Christmas and New Years Day 87/88 (which usually sees a nice boost for all soaps), sees GL get its first 7 rating since the week of Feb. 10-14, 1986 - almost two years earlier. 

Also, this is the first time this decade that an ABC soap has not scored the top spot for that week. GH topped that week in 1980 - 1982 and 1985 - 1987 and AMC in 1983 and 1984. 

The holiday bump!

ATWT:

James murder trial and Barbara found guilty of killing James.

2 hours ago, GLATWT88 said:

The week between Christmas and New Years Day 87/88 (which usually sees a nice boost for all soaps), sees GL get its first 7 rating since the week of Feb. 10-14, 1986 - almost two years earlier. 

And this is the first time ever Nielsen released final numbers for that end-of-the-year week. So, it's nice to finally be done with those fast weekly weeks!

1988 coming! Finally!! Those are all new!! Never before seen!! Can't wait!!