WTF!!!!!

EXCLUSIVE: Here is a great holiday gift for soap fans: I’ve learned that Prospect Park has revived its plan to continue cancelled ABC daytime dramas All My Children and One Life To Live online. I hear the company behind USA hit Royal Pains has inked deals with SAG-AFTRA and DGA for the soaps’ production, eyed to begin in the first quarter of 2013.

http://www.deadline....ine-web-series/

Andy Cohen is hilarious.

Blast from the past:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7McvrUn5Mn4

(I love his grin the whole time)

Between Kim's "come on BITCHES", Nene, Sheree and Andy's faces, that I just peed myself.

He can be the nicest guy in the world and it won't matter if this crew keeps flinging [!@#$%^&*] around like bootleg Entourage or trying to flip tables in the hopes of intimidating the little soap people (or the Writers' Guild) to accept their demands. They think it's 1995 and they're Dr. Dre. I want to see logistics and an honest effort.

He worked on Heroes, one of the worst TV shows of the last 15 years, he has a background in wrestling, his credentials in production are thin and very marginal, and his tumblr looks and reads like a 7 year old Myspace page. By contrast, Linda Gottlieb had mounted major motion pictures. Forgive me for not seeing quite the same parallel.

I. C. A. M.

(And I didn't even care for Linda Gottlieb.)

Taste aside, Khan, you don't think Gottlieb helped extend the life of OLTL?

But I do think certain comic book writers would make good soap HWs--depending on their style.

Again, I don't follow comic books as much as I should, so I'm curious as to whether you have any specific writers in mind. From what everyone here is saying, in fact, I think I wouldn't mind seeing Chris Claremont join the staff of one of these shows (maybe GH?).

Taste aside, Khan, you don't think Gottlieb helped extend the life of OLTL?

hell Erika Slezak said on her TV Legends Interview she thought LG did nothing for the show

We already have a ton of web soaps--yes the quality vastly vastly varies, but they have tried to involve soap favorite actors and some soap crew elements. And mostly, nobody cares.

As you've said, though, the quality among the many, different web-based soaps varies, which is why the media and others don't care. It's really going to take another Irna Phillips to go in there and exploit the new medium while telling fresh and compelling stories.

hell Erika Slezak said on her TV Legends Interview she thought LG did nothing for the show

Have you seen any episodes from the two years before LG? That speaks volumes...

I haven't seen that interview for ages, and I know many felt the changes made were too quick--and I guess Vicki didn't like being with Sloane maybe? (Her DID story was done right after LG left, so she didn't have all that much to do). I love ES, but don't always agree with all her opinions (though mostly, I do). Rauch, to his credit, put Vicki front and center, so that may have played a part. Ratings certainly improved (though they remained more middle rated) and the show re-gained a lot of respect.

As you've said, though, the quality among the many, different web-based soaps varies, which is why the media and others don't care. It's really going to take another Irna Phillips to go in there and exploit the new medium while telling fresh and compelling stories.

Well yes, absolutely. But I don't see that happening, or people putting any major money behind something, unfortunately, without the name recognition.

Edited January 9, 201312 yr by EricMontreal22

He killed Tasha Yar.

I have no idea what that is .. but it reminded me of this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH3WvI_S6-k

Ok so in the newest Daytime Confidential Podcast Jamey says that ABC was planning to do something again with OLTL & AMC but PP's 2nd try put kabosh on that.

Well ABC its your own Damn fault. Should have never canned them in the first place and when you did, you should not have lisenced them out. Its time to make your bed ABC.

Edited January 9, 201312 yr by John

Again, I don't follow comic books as much as I should, so I'm curious as to whether you have any specific writers in mind. From what everyone here is saying, in fact, I think I wouldn't mind seeing Chris Claremont join the staff of one of these shows (maybe GH?).

I really am out of the loop with comics right now--so can't really say. I mainly read, if it's not Japanese, then indie titles or Vertigo ones (DC's more "mature" author driven titles). Of course one famous Vertigo title, Y The Last Man, which was largely very good, has had its writer Brian K Vaughan scripted a number of the better Lost episodes (and I'm not a big Lost fan). Out comic writer Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa has written well for Big Love, and not so well for Glee (not sure I can blame him there) as well as penning the new Carrie remake. But again, I'm not sure either would be good for a soap.

Claremont would certainly get the angsty relationship stuff right, and at his peak did a good job of balancing and juggling stories, character, and using history (some plot points that come up wouldn't be fully used till 5+ years later). Funny, one of Claremont's biggest fights with Marvel was them insisting on bringing Jean Grey back from the dead " Claremont expressed dissatisfaction with the retcon, stating in 2012: "We’d just gone to all the effort of saying, 'Jean is dead, get over it,' and they said, 'Haha, we fibbed.' So why should anyone trust us again? But that’s the difference between being the writer and being the boss."^{Which I'm sure many soap writers can relate to...}

I have no idea what that is .. but it reminded me of this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH3WvI_S6-k

Ooh how I loved Bananarama's campy videos filled with half naked men when I was young...

Carry on!

Ok so in the newest Daytime Confidential Podcast Jamey says that ABC was planning to do something again with OLTL & AMC but PP's 2nd try put kabosh on that.

Well ABC its your own Damn fault. Should have never canned them in the first place and when you did, you should not have lisenced them out. Its time to make your bed ABC.

Yeah to be honest, while I AM concerned about PP, this doesn't give me much sympathy for ABC. And really ABC planning to do "something" could mean *anything* (way to be vague Jamey and not commit to any actual answer) --I still doubt we'd see them resurrected as a daily afternoon soap. If ABC was worried about having some sort of a web presence, it would have been interesting to see them trying to do it online--but PP, if they are in it only for the money, may actually allow its writers and Agnes more control and less interference.

Edited January 9, 201312 yr by EricMontreal22

Remember it was established soaps like The Guiding Light that made a successful transition from radio to television so with these legacy soaps returning formerly tv soaps now becoming internet-based they have the potential to start a new era in soaps, and its the future, if there is one for the genre.

True, GUIDING LIGHT transitioned from radio to television. However, it still was in production when it did so, and it still was healthy, but from a creative standpoint, and from that of followers' interest. That isn't the same as reviving two soaps that have been off the air for close to two years, and were canceled in the first place due to declining ratings.

As you've said, though, the quality among the many, different web-based soaps varies, which is why the media and others don't care. It's really going to take another Irna Phillips to go in there and exploit the new medium while telling fresh and compelling stories.

I look at web soaps like I see independent films. There are plenty of them and while most of them suck some of them have offered moments of great creativity and every now and then one of them hits a chord. Fu@k the people who don't care. This isn't about them.

I really am out of the loop with comics right now--so can't really say. I mainly read, if it's not Japanese, then indie titles or Vertigo ones (DC's more "mature" author driven titles). Of course one famous Vertigo title, Y The Last Man, which was largely very good, has had its writer Brian K Vaughan scripted a number of the better Lost episodes (and I'm not a big Lost fan). Out comic writer Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa has written well for Big Love, and not so well for Glee (not sure I can blame him there) as well as penning the new Carrie remake. But again, I'm not sure either would be good for a soap.

Claremont would certainly get the angsty relationship stuff right, and at his peak did a good job of balancing and juggling stories, character, and using history (some plot points that come up wouldn't be fully used till 5+ years later). Funny, one of Claremont's biggest fights with Marvel was them insisting on bringing Jean Grey back from the dead " Claremont expressed dissatisfaction with the retcon, stating in 2012: "We’d just gone to all the effort of saying, 'Jean is dead, get over it,' and they said, 'Haha, we fibbed.' So why should anyone trust us again? But that’s the difference between being the writer and being the boss."^{Which I'm sure many soap writers can relate to...}

Ooh how I loved Bananarama's campy videos filled with half naked men when I was young...

Carry on!

Yeah to be honest, while I AM concerned about PP, this doesn't give me much sympathy for ABC. And really ABC planning to do "something" could mean *anything* (way to be vague Jamey and not commit to any actual answer) --I still doubt we'd see them resurrected as a daily afternoon soap. If ABC was worried about having some sort of a web presence, it would have been interesting to see them trying to do it online--but PP, if they are in it only for the money, may actually allow its writers and Agnes more control and less interference.

Jamey believed that ABC were gonna do a summer series of both soaps on ABC Family