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That was inadvertently done though. Johnny did not set out to kill Hope and Cole. He did not throw Hope and Cole off the cliff in the same way Todd was trying to suffocate Johnny, make him lose consciousness and let him bleed to death. It's not as if Todd hasn't done worse then Johnny has. His wrap sheet is even worse then Johnny's, so him trying to actually kill Johnny is worse.

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I had that problem when I would DVR iCarly and VicTORIous, it would record everything else and these shows. It's cause the networks kept changing the time of the repeats of these shows and I was told that the cable co. usually only finds out the changes like a day before so the DVR reads the show as the show you don't want to record

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Matters not! Johnny killed 2 people while trying to kill someone else. He missed. Then he tries to pin his crimes on someone else. He's only remorseful when it's convenient, but it never gets in the way of having sex with Carly. If this were weighing on his mind that much, surely Johnny would have challenges 'rising to the occassions".

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Except for the fact that he confessed to Connie because it got to him and the fact that he was willing to confess to Carly on his death bed today because he didn't want to die with that on his conscience. 2095c354.gif You can't say that Johnny hasn't felt badly for what happened to Starr. Todd has done much worse then Johnny has regardless, and that includes him terrorizing his rape victim, attacking her multiple times even when she was suffering from lupus, selling Blair's kid because it wasn't his and purposely punching a woman in the face and throwing her out in the cold. All of Todd's actions have been purposely and deliberate cruel, including what he believes to be fratricide. Johnny's actions toward Starr were accidental. Todd has no room to talk.

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Wow today's show was REALLY good. I thought it was an episode I can easily see be nominated for an Emmy. Tracy and Monica's interaction was perfect and Emma broke my heart. Great show all around

how so?

And what does that stuff that Todd did 15 years ago relevant to whats going on today?The baby switch was on purpose and a deliberately cruel act? Whom was he trying to hurt with that? Todd and Johnny in their current stories are two sides of the same coin. I cant see how one can argue that one is better than the other. Both have done an awful act and BOTH have shown remorse for it. Both are hypocrites bc they are quick to call the other out without looking in the mirror first. Todd is scum and so is Johnny. Lets not try and act like he's a model citizen in comparison to big bad Todd

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Today's show was great.

I wouldn't have changed a thing about it.

When Edward gave up the antidote for Emma. I was in tears.

Sonny actually saving someone he doesn't like! What the hell. Am I back in 04 again. When he saved Alcazar from the PC Hotel Fire. Jax and him today were great. He was great with Shawn too.

Too bad Sonny's aim was off and he shot a barrel of gas. Oopsy Daisy!

LOL at Olivia on tomorrow's previews. She was on the roof. Reminded me of Jenny in Forrest Gump (That scene where she's on the roof and tries to 'fly' because she's stoned.) Laughing harder at what Kate said "No honey, that's just the LSD talking"

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I'm not sure what this was but it's clear that you did not read the entire conversation all the way threw and that you just jumped into this discussion without context. I was talking deliberately about Todd trying to kill Johnny today in cold blood while Johnny was shot, bleeding out from his wound and the fact that Todd was trying to suffocate him and deprive him of oxygen. I said that was wrong and then Dragonflies brought up Johnny's previous actions as a way to justify Todd's treatment of Johnny, and the attempted murder. I then said that Todd has no room to judge anyone for what he has done, since he has done worse. It's not about a Johnny is better then Todd discussion and it never was. It was a Todd is a douchebag for trying to kill Johnny comment that Todd fans got defensive about. Lets be clear.

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Um actually I did read the entire conversation through and I stand by my post. Your original response to dragonflies when she mentioend Johnny killing Hope and Cole was that it was inadvertenly but its not as if Johnny hasnt murdered deliberelty before. Um rememebr Anthony from just a few months ago? He killed his grandfather in cold blood with no remorse whatsoever. At least Dragonflies comment was relevant to the current story as its playing on GH, which was used to give Todd motivation for his actions today, even if it was despicable. She wasnt pulling stuff from when Johnny debuted which has nothing to do with the animosity between both men

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