Daytime TV had an article in 75 dealing with the fact that back in 71, for the first time since 1960 (according to them), ATWT was beaten in the weekly ratings. They published the ratings for that momentous week of Nov 12th and followed up with the same weeks rating for the next 4 years.

Thought posters might be interested.I wonder what show (s) beat ATWT in 1960? Does anyone know what was happening on DOOl and GH the weeks that they hit #1?

1971

1. DOOL 10.0

2.ATWT 9.8

3.TD 9.6

4. GH 9.5

5.AW 9.4

6.SFT 7.9

7.LOL 7.6

8.LIAMST 7.6

9.SS 7.1

10.OLTL 6.7

Interesting to see the dominance of NBC with 3 of the top 5 shows yet Bright Promise and Somerset failing to follow through, and GH doing so well as the lone hit ABC show.

It must have been hard for CBS to have ATWT dethroned and no other soap in the top 5.Also,shows traditionally perceived as weaker (LOL,SS etc outdoing GL and EON)

I'll post the next ratings later.

Edited July 24, 201114 yr by Paul Raven

I can understand how the ABC soap lineup during this time period soared. I was in college during late 70s and early 80s.  It was an unwritten rule that lounges were locked on ABC from 12:30 to 4.   I was interested in All My Children and watched bits and pieces of the other 3.   
 

The writing was at its peak with Phoebe and the conflicts with Chuck and Donna (ex hooker with Billy Clyde, Estelle) as well as other great stories.   OLTL had the Karen Marco Dane stuff and GH was starting the Monty era 

Many probably watched at home during breaks.  I was still loyal to CBS but maybe I was the exception.  Young and Restless was still kind of obscure in a remote 12 noon slot.   It may have taken a while for CBS to be recognized as having programming other than traditional fare for parents and grandparents.  
 

Y & R may have not done so well at 1 to 2 head to head with AMC which is probably why they insisted on 12:30

9 hours ago, TVFAN1144 said:

I can understand how the ABC soap lineup during this time period soared. I was in college during late 70s and early 80s.  It was an unwritten rule that lounges were locked on ABC from 12:30 to 4.   I was interested in All My Children and watched bits and pieces of the other 3.   
 

The writing was at its peak with Phoebe and the conflicts with Chuck and Donna (ex hooker with Billy Clyde, Estelle) as well as other great stories.   OLTL had the Karen Marco Dane stuff and GH was starting the Monty era 

Many probably watched at home during breaks.  I was still loyal to CBS but maybe I was the exception.  Young and Restless was still kind of obscure in a remote 12 noon slot.   It may have taken a while for CBS to be recognized as having programming other than traditional fare for parents and grandparents.  
 

Y & R may have not done so well at 1 to 2 head to head with AMC which is probably why they insisted on 12:30

Actually Y and R was moved to try to defeat AMC by starting at the earlier start at 12:30PM on June 8, 1981 (42 years ago today). Y and R was going up against Ryan's Hope on ABC and easily dominated the 12:30 pm to 1PM EST time slot, but AMC would beat Y & R from the 1 to 1:30 slot. Eventually Y and R dominated Ryan's Hope and was able to defeat AMC in the 1:00PM slot which is what allowed Y and R to go to Number 1 in the ratings. Ryan's Hope was cancelled in 1989.

So, when exactly was AW knocked out of the top spot?

27 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

So, when exactly was AW knocked out of the top spot?

All My Children knocked out AW and ATWT during August and September 1978 and was Number 1 for the 1978 to 1979 season. General Hospital and Y&R also knocked AW and ATWT out of the top 3 during August to Nov. 1978.

ATWT and AW were tied in the ratings but ATWT had a higher share so it took the crown for 1977 to 1978 season.

1977–1978 Season

• 1. As the World Turns 8.6/31 share
• 2. Another World 8.6/28 share
• 3. All My Children 8.4/31 share
• 4. Guiding Light 8.0
• 5. The Young and the Restless 7.8
• 6. Search for Tomorrow 7.5
• 7. One Life to Live 7.2
• 8. Ryan's Hope 7.0/28 share
• 9. General Hospital 7.0/23 share
• 10. Days of Our Lives 6.9
• 11. The Doctors 6.5
• 12. Love of Life 6.0
• 13. The Edge of Night 5.2
• 14. For Richer, For Poorer (retooled Lovers and Friends) 3.9 (Debut: December 6, 1977)

 

1978–1979 Season

• 1. All My Children 9.0
• 2. General Hospital 8.7
• 3. The Young and the Restless 8.6
• 4. As the World Turns 8.2
• 5. Guiding Light 8.1
• 6. One Life to Live 8.0
• 7. Search for Tomorrow 7.6
• 8. Another World 7.5
• 9. Ryan's Hope 7.2
• 10. Days of Our Lives 6.8
• 11. The Doctors 6.3
• 12. Love of Life 5.8
• 12. The Edge of Night 5.8
• 14. For Richer, For Poorer 2.1 (Final Season; ended September 29, 1978)

Edited June 8, 20232 yr by JoeCool

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 5/29/78-6/2/78 & 6/578-6/9/78:

 

30 minutes ago, JAS0N47 said:

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 5/29/78-6/2/78 & 6/578-6/9/78:

 

Interesting All My Children a solid Number 1 in June week and GH at Number 4 in same week.

4 hours ago, JoeCool said:

All My Children knocked out AW and ATWT during August and September 1978 and was Number 1 for the 1978 to 1979 season. General Hospital and Y&R also knocked AW and ATWT out of the top 3 during August to Nov. 1978.

ATWT and AW were tied in the ratings but ATWT had a higher share so it took the crown for 1977 to 1978 season.

1977–1978 Season

• 1. As the World Turns 8.6/31 share
• 2. Another World 8.6/28 share
• 3. All My Children 8.4/31 share
• 4. Guiding Light 8.0
• 5. The Young and the Restless 7.8
• 6. Search for Tomorrow 7.5
• 7. One Life to Live 7.2
• 8. Ryan's Hope 7.0/28 share
• 9. General Hospital 7.0/23 share
• 10. Days of Our Lives 6.9
• 11. The Doctors 6.5
• 12. Love of Life 6.0
• 13. The Edge of Night 5.2
• 14. For Richer, For Poorer (retooled Lovers and Friends) 3.9 (Debut: December 6, 1977)

 

1978–1979 Season

• 1. All My Children 9.0
• 2. General Hospital 8.7
• 3. The Young and the Restless 8.6
• 4. As the World Turns 8.2
• 5. Guiding Light 8.1
• 6. One Life to Live 8.0
• 7. Search for Tomorrow 7.6
• 8. Another World 7.5
• 9. Ryan's Hope 7.2
• 10. Days of Our Lives 6.8
• 11. The Doctors 6.3
• 12. Love of Life 5.8
• 12. The Edge of Night 5.8
• 14. For Richer, For Poorer 2.1 (Final Season; ended September 29, 1978)

Thanks! 

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 6/12/78-6/16/78 & 6/19/78-6/23/78:

 

5 hours ago, JAS0N47 said:

FROM THE VAULT: WEEKLY DAYTIME NIELSEN RATINGS: WEEKS OF 6/12/78-6/16/78 & 6/19/78-6/23/78:

 

All My Children going up substantially and claiming the top spot. AW still strong. ATWT begins to drop off a bit. Y&R solid and strong. OLTL coming on strong as well probably getting residual carry over from AMC. GH making its move out of the bottom half. DAYS rising to Number 4 and then solidly in the middle.

 

Thank you for posting!!

Edited June 9, 20232 yr by JoeCool

So June saw a lot of changes

OLTL jumping to #3

Days to #4

ATWT dropping to #6

So interesting. What was happening on those shows to cause the jumps? Or was there nothing story wise that could account for it?

5 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

So June saw a lot of changes

OLTL jumping to #3

Days to #4

ATWT dropping to #6

So interesting. What was happening on those shows to cause the jumps? Or was there nothing story wise that could account for it?

I looked up what was going on at Days.

Donna threatened to jump off a window ledge. Don saved her, but fell off instead, Janice was kidnapped by her biological mother, Mary quit Anderson and went to work with Chris and Julie's brother Steve was re-introduced. Doesn't sound very thrilling but maybe it played out better than it sounds 😂

@Paul Raven June would have kids home on summer break.

11 minutes ago, kalbir said:

@Paul Raven June would have kids home on summer break.

I wonder if in previous Summers the ratings fluctuated to reflect that? 

This was the first year GH and OLTL were 60 mins and both shows story wise were more engaging. So AMC viewers had more of a reason to stay tuned.

Was this the time that the 'Love in the Afternoon' promos began?

I wonder if Jackie Smith at ABC had been working towards a big Summer promo blitz and ensuring the stories were there,knowing that those younger viewers would be available.

Not sure why Days would have that spike ...

Reading various things over the years I know that the ratings data was much anticipated each week. I'm sure at Days there would have been much jubilation and congrats to Ann Marcus and a feeling they were on the right track, only to be disappointed in coming weeks when the numbers dropped.

Search was looking weak. Henry Slesar was writing but the Corringtons were on the way.

4 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

I wonder if in previous Summers the ratings fluctuated to reflect that? 

This was the first year GH and OLTL were 60 mins and both shows story wise were more engaging. So AMC viewers had more of a reason to stay tuned.

Was this the time that the 'Love in the Afternoon' promos began?

I wonder if Jackie Smith at ABC had been working towards a big Summer promo blitz and ensuring the stories were there,knowing that those younger viewers would be available.

Not sure why Days would have that spike ...

Reading various things over the years I know that the ratings data was much anticipated each week. I'm sure at Days there would have been much jubilation and congrats to Ann Marcus and a feeling they were on the right track, only to be disappointed in coming weeks when the numbers dropped.

Search was looking weak. Henry Slesar was writing but the Corringtons were on the way.

Yes ABC's "Love in the Afternoon" promos began in the summer of 1978. Jackie Smith and Fred Siilverman planned the blitz in 1978 for ABC Daytime. They wanted to target and attract younger viewers  to ABC Daytime.

40 minutes ago, kalbir said:

@Paul Raven June would have kids home on summer break.

Same thing would happen in the 80s during Christmas break. The ABC soaps would get a bump but would drop after the holiday break was over.