Members MontyB Posted August 8, 2011 Members Share Posted August 8, 2011 It that's truly the case, then they all should go off the air. Looking at those ratings from the 80's compared to today's ratings, even #1 Y&R needs to be cancelled. My point is most TV shows whether primetime or daytime don't garner the ratings they have in the past. Honestly, Nielsen ratings or so antiquated, so who is to say what really deserves to go unless you are the one making the decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted August 8, 2011 Members Share Posted August 8, 2011 What's the latest on this anyway? Everyone seems so left in the dark as to what's really happening. Though really, extended life or not, I can't see these shows lasting that long in this format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MontyB Posted August 8, 2011 Members Share Posted August 8, 2011 Well, there truly isn't a connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ER Tosh Posted August 8, 2011 Members Share Posted August 8, 2011 At least the AMC vs OLTL internet war has changed into the AMC/OLTL vs P&G war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted August 8, 2011 Members Share Posted August 8, 2011 Did anyone watch that garbage?? Like I said being a powerhouse has nothing to do with both shows moving online. They have been cancelled on television. I am in that category Eric keeps crowing about....and I was mainly a CBS viewer back then...his golden [!@#$%^&*] doesnt hold water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted August 8, 2011 Members Share Posted August 8, 2011 I'm trying to stay optimistic, I really want this to work, but the move to cancel-happy cable troubles me moreso than the move online, even if it means more ad revenue. I hope PP's online infotainment network is still a go, and if they can somehow get a cable network to air it as well if only for a limited time, well, that would be gravy. Cable is too fickle to put all the eggs in that basket. They would need to be simultaneously building the strength of their online network, treating the cable airings like same-day repeats rather than the other way around. BTW, does anyone remember when Bravo aired same-day reruns of The View? I never watched, but I don't think that lasted more than a quarter, did it? In other news, I see that Anderson Cooper will be replacing Oprah in my viewing area. The Chew, The Revolution, Katie, Anderson... where the hell am I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted August 8, 2011 Members Share Posted August 8, 2011 Same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Max Posted August 8, 2011 Members Share Posted August 8, 2011 This is so true. That's why I get so pissed off when fans of AMC or OLTL say that their soap needs to be saved for the good of the genre. Most people--myself included--aren't interested in saving "the" soaps; rather, all they care about is saving "their" soaps. (I'm not bothered nearly as much by the selfishness of soap fans as I am by the fact that many pretend as if their efforts to save their soaps are not selfish.) We shouldn't cancel a show because its ratings have fallen dramatically from where its ratings were in the 80's. However, we should cancel a show if it is not performing adequately when compared to other shows in daytime. By this metric, Y&R and B&B are the only soaps that deserve to stay on the air. When compared to the ratings of other network daytime shows (like TPIR, Y&R, The View, and B& the ratings for the ABC soaps and DOOL are absolutely horrendous. (OLTL does about as well as the much cheaper-to-produce LMAD.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted August 8, 2011 Members Share Posted August 8, 2011 And most of these shows probably won't last beyond a year and a half. Katie and Anderson have been hyped for years and consistently failed (Katie's Today bubble excluded). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric83 Posted August 8, 2011 Members Share Posted August 8, 2011 When was I saying that AMC and OLTL should be saved just because? And you two aren't getting the point. The response to these cancellations were bigger than P&G. Did you see any of the massive outrage at GL and ATWT being canceled? No. Like I said, it seems like more of the general public has talked about this because of this extreme amount of YOUNG fans the shows had in the 80's. They aren't watching now but they probably were back then. And honestly Soapsuds you are always saying something negative about AMC and OLTL, I have no idea why you watch either. You kept saying they sucked and you were done with soaps after ATWT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted August 8, 2011 Members Share Posted August 8, 2011 What exactly would you like us to do? Mount efforts to revive ATWT and GL? Procter & Gamble owns those brands and it has no interest. Their fans fought for them to no avail. Prospect Park took the ABC soaps and intends to revive them. Would I love to see some form of ATWT or GL revival someday? Sure, absolutely. For a time I thought GL could do great with a Night Shift-style spinoff on SOAPNet. But it's not currently happening. Am I supposed to pretend this is unacceptable because the P&G soaps are not back too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric83 Posted August 8, 2011 Members Share Posted August 8, 2011 +1. LMAO. My "beloved" ABC soaps. I only watch OLTL and have only watched since 2008. I was watching GL since the early 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Max Posted August 8, 2011 Members Share Posted August 8, 2011 I'm sorry that I only have one week of ratings to post (the above ratings were for the week of March 7-11, 2011 and were re-printed at golden-road.net; the original source for this material was SON, yet the link to these ratings is no longer working); however, it proves my point on just how dreadful AMC and OLTL's ratings are when compared to other shows on network daytime television. Certainly, any rational person has to acknowledge that ABC made the right business decision by cancelling both soaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric83 Posted August 8, 2011 Members Share Posted August 8, 2011 I never said ABC was wrong in canceling, I just stated why Prospect Park took them. But you are going to keep arguing your own agenda and put words in my mouth so oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MontyB Posted August 8, 2011 Members Share Posted August 8, 2011 Wait! Those are old. What do those numbers look like today, LOL! It just a matter of opinion as far as I'm concerned. There are people that want their soaps. I want OLTL to survive. If that's selfish, then I'm one selfish bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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