My understanding is that Shelly Burch (Delilah) was not well during much of her time on the show.   I think the show valued her but did not want to add much stress to her condition.

On 8/2/2023 at 12:15 AM, MissPalmer said:

 OLTL started with the August 4th, 1980 episode ( Asa's big party) in Spain and in Germany, so I guess that the Italians watched this same episode as episode number 1.

 

Are u sure about that date? 
do u know which episode number that would’ve been? 
 

18 hours ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

Are u sure about that date? 
do u know which episode number that would’ve been? 
 

Episode 3084 (4th August 1980)

On 7/10/2023 at 3:49 PM, DRW50 said:

No matter how many bad things Tina did, Andrea found the heart of the character. You believed she did care about other people - Cord, Viki, Gabrielle, her kid - even if she often wanted to put herself first.

I agree, @DRW50.  Tina wasn't malicious the way other soap vixens could be.  She always operated under the belief that she was doing the right thing.  However, one dumb decision on her part always begat another, even dumber one.  Pretty soon, Tina would find herself backed into a corner.  As a viewer, part of the fun was watching her try and squirm out of that trouble, knowing (even if she didn't) that it all would blow up in her face eventually.

On 9/4/2023 at 1:37 AM, soapfave06 said:

I am officially hooked on 1986, this show moves insanely fast and every scene is well-written and produced and the background music is insanely good. The action scenes, and there are a ton of them, are very much above the daytime norm and very well choreographed. 
 

In three months Mitch developed a cult, the leading ladies infiltrated the cult, the cult members went nuts and staged a protest at Llanview Hospital, tried to burn Cassie and Rob alive then went after Tina and Cord on their honeymoon with a machete, Rafe went undercover to expose corruption within the LPD, Dorian stood trial, went to prison and before Llanview could breathe they are now facing an ever going crack production ring which was shot to the frontburner with half the cast robbed at the Pony’s Ball, not to mention the side plot with the Barons and Brad with Llanview having their own horse racing gambling issue. 
 

However this all moves naturally, Llanview feels like a true community, the family scenes are top notch and feel so real, they rarely miss a beat in making you care about all the characters. With that said, they continue introducing characters at rapid pace but do well to keep the Sanders tied to Herb and Dorian and the Dennisons tied to Viki and Clint. 
 

The use of Tom’s introduction continues to use history well as Wanda recollects to Clint how she once deeply loved Joe before he ended up with Viki.
 

They have set up the quadrangle with Tom, Viki, Clint and Maira fantastically well and used to propel the Tina and Maria feud and the secret of Cord’s paternity. A birthday party for Kevin coinciding with a welcome home party for Viki built to the big moments of Viki seeing Tom for the first time and (fainting rather dramatically) Tina and Maria taking the claws off fully for the first time so, so well. 
 

Dorian in Statesville uncovering the connection of the warden to the crack ring is also fantastic and the action scenes of Dorian and Susan beating the crap out of each other are phenomenal camp. 
 

Also, to update, they randomly brought Lisa and Josh back after over a month offscreen for the Pony’s Ball and to cause tension for Connie and Brad. Lisa sees her father off before he heads to Statesville and gives Brad her father’s thoroughbreds at the local stables; Brad is shot playing hero in the robbery and Josh treats him, but Lisa and Josh share no scenes and again haven’t been seen in weeks. 

The only minor complaints are the lack of story for Wanda and Larry; the slow erasure of any diversity and Pamela and Asa, which feels like such missed potential, and I’m not too familiar with Delila but I wish she were doing more than complaining about how much Rafe works since we know it doesn’t go anywhere. 
 

July seemed to be the end for Mike Rivers; September seems to be the true end of Josh and Lisa, and for sure Richard Abbott, Cassie Callison and Joy O’Neill have left town while former cult member Susan Bates has been murdered rather brutally by Vince and Jamie. 

IMO, Sam Hall, Peggy O'Shea (who was HW'ing the show throughout '86) and Gordon Russell were the best writers to work on OLTL.  The three were masters at writing umbrella storylines like the ones you're describing, @soapfave06, where even the smallest, simplest event could ripple throughout all of Llanview.  They also knew how to take some very far-fetched ideas and ground them in enough reality that you didn't mind it; and there was an earthiness to their work, too, that really helped the show stand out from the others at that time.

So well said. Great to see you posting again.

1 hour ago, Khan said:

Tina wasn't malicious the way other soap vixens could be.  She always operated under the belief that she was doing the right thing.  However, one dumb decision on her part always begat another, even dumber one.  Pretty soon, Tina would find herself backed into a corner.  As a viewer, part of the fun was watching her try and squirm out of that trouble, knowing (even if she didn't) that it all would blow up in her face eventually.

 

I agree that Tina was never a malicious bad girl instead just an opportunist who selfishly would get in over her head. Same goes for Gabrielle who was more of a complicated anti-heroine than villain. 
 

I like all the popular versions of Cassie but I prefer Holly in the role. The spunky PI and almost Dorian esque nature was far more in line with how I saw the character than the weeping mentally unstable Reverends wife we got down the line. She felt like Dorian’s daughter and in a lot of ways Adrianna would later. 

I’m planning to do a compilation of Nora’s slaps and punches. Does anyone have examples? I know of her slaps in the 2010s and her slapping RJ in the 90s. Don’t know if she ever slapped Bo.

Edited October 8, 20232 yr by SamandWillowFan

Actor Mark Goddard (Ted Clayton #2 on One Life to Live) has passed away.

Here is a short obituary.   (Hopefully, a longer one will become available):

Mark Goddard, who played Major Don West, the hot-tempered pilot of the Jupiter 2, on the 1960s CBS adventure series Lost on Space, has died. He was 87. 

Goddard died Tuesday in Hingham, Massachusetts, his wife Evelyn Pezzulich told The Hollywood Reporter. 

Goddard had worked as a regular on the Four Star Television series Johnny Ringo and The Detectives when he was approached by his agent about coming aboard the new Lost on Space, created and produced by Irwin Allen.

Does anyone know the rough date of the clip of Dorian slapping Blair at 14 seconds? 

 

I've been wondering where that comes from too.

@SamandWillowFan @Vee

That's not Blair, that's Echo.

28 minutes ago, SFK said:

@SamandWillowFan @Vee

That's not Blair, that's Echo.

No, there's a clip right after. My bet is the Labine era, but I have no idea when or how.

On 10/18/2023 at 1:02 PM, Vee said:

No, there's a clip right after. My bet is the Labine era, but I have no idea when or how.

I ended up finding it. It's from October 18th, 1995.

Is that Cassie slapping her mother at 3:01? 
https://youtu.be/LsCS7woGxjo?si=TgNE_V1HwKEGNAUb