Members John Posted October 3, 2018 Members Share Posted October 3, 2018 That was Tate Harmon and his Da Kirk in 2007 who I think they tried with Viki for a second Take was a racist and didnt even realize that Adrianna who he was into was Latina and flipped out when he learned the fact 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted October 3, 2018 Members Share Posted October 3, 2018 To be clear, as for the killers, I'm sighing at the show - they had Haver, the KCK and Colson all over the course of a year-plus, and the last two ran almost simultaneously. Awful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted October 3, 2018 Members Share Posted October 3, 2018 Ah. God. Those years and those stories have become one big blur. It was so ridiculous to believe that a baseball player/underwear model was also involved in a far-right/white supremacist organization. Might as well have been an international spy. And from what I remember, Chris Beetem was actually PISSED about the change in his character. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted October 3, 2018 Members Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) LMAO! This I didn't know. I thought Adriana was a deliberate cover. It was obvious it was going to be Tate though, so Chris Beetem was foolish. Edited October 3, 2018 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted October 3, 2018 Members Share Posted October 3, 2018 Didnt Rex think Tate was Gay and outed him on LIVE TV? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted October 3, 2018 Members Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) Because, although he had played major league baseball, Tate Harmon was, in fact, blind as a [!@#$%^&*] bat. I thought so, too, but I've since read somewhere that can't-see-for-[!@#$%^&*] Tate actually didn't know. I don't recall Rex "outing" Tate, but I do recall they recreated Tom Cruise's infamous jumping-the-couch moment on "Oprah" when Tate talked about how much he loved Adriana. The last two running simultaneously WAS bad. But, you know, I don't think it would've been bad if OLTL had gradually become another EON. Not that this means anything, but Wikipedia says Tate used Adriana as a cover. So, I have no idea. I've read she was a cover, and I've read she wasn't. Guess that's what I get for just following the show on-and-off through SOD and other magazine summaries. Edited October 3, 2018 by Khan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted October 3, 2018 Members Share Posted October 3, 2018 Maybe he had hoped that Tate would become so popular that they'd change their plans? Plus, he was probably still smarting from how his previous stint at ATWT had turned out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted October 3, 2018 Members Share Posted October 3, 2018 Chris filled in as Nikolas on GH would you take him as nikolas permanetly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted October 3, 2018 Members Share Posted October 3, 2018 I'd take him, period. But that's for a different thread. Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted October 3, 2018 Members Share Posted October 3, 2018 No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted October 3, 2018 Members Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) I will say I woulda taken years more of Malone/Griffith crazy (and awful)-ness over the bulk of Higley--at the least I had fun trying to figure out exactly WHAT they were trying to do, and on some level appreciate the ambition (though I have to wonder if some of the Gothic-ness was cribbed from their bible for 13 Bourbon Street like reportedly some of Malone's AW was). Ha I forgot about the Love Crew specifics and yes Shannon! Wow. And then of course Mark returned because I guess they needed to reuse their token gay for the Colson story (?) and not a new one--cuz, y'know, that shows Higley knows how to write soap. However, I will argue one of your points. I actually thought The Killing Club wasn't... half bad (yes, I read it--to my credit I picked it up in the remainder bin on a whim). It's credited in the small print as being written by Michael Malone based on an idea by Josh Griffith--and Malone obviously knows how to write mystery novels, so that probably explains it. The irony is the OLTL show's story with the murders based on Marcie's story (I can't even remember who the killer on the show was) has virtually NO relation to the novel. Like even the way that the victims are murdered is different. I assume Higley just decided to do her own mystery and in the show claim it was connected to this book viewers could buy? Edited October 3, 2018 by EricMontreal22 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted October 3, 2018 Members Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) I think all the stuff from Bourbon Street, etc. is just intrinsic to Malone. He was doing past life Greek/pirate fantasy flight of fancy with Tina, Cord and Luna as early as October 1991, followed by ghost Megan's midsummer night's dream the next spring. (And I don't mind Malone's whimsy and fantasy in moderation, even in some excess, but there was the '90s stuff and then there was 2003-2004.) And yes, anything was better than Higley. But woo boy, what an unforgettable mess! I'd actually still have welcomed Malone as a consultant at a new OLTL - just a consultant. He can't be allowed to be a HW without massive smart oversight and a strong team in place. IIRC a Killing Club tie-in was mandated from the start when ABC commissioned the book, but Malone was gone by the time it kicked off. Higley got the job based on her one sentence pitch to Frons: "Jessica has DID". Beyond that she never wrote long story or bibles, which drove Frank Valentini nuts. She was apparently a nightmare to work with everywhere she's ever been. Edited October 3, 2018 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted October 3, 2018 Members Share Posted October 3, 2018 I completely forgot about this character and story, but now I distinctly remember Beetem speaking out about his unhappiness with the writing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted October 3, 2018 Members Share Posted October 3, 2018 Again, dude was stupid. It was obvious Tate was the OPP MVP! At the time I thought the story was laughable - the acronym (every last lady!), the plotline, the idea that a major celebrity athlete would be a closet white supremacist terrorist. Today, with the rise of the alt right and many pro athletes and TV stars being unmasked as sympathizing with that fringe on social media, it's actually unnervingly plausible. But the One Pure People storyline was very poorly done - and could use a do-over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted October 3, 2018 Members Share Posted October 3, 2018 Completely agreed about a consultant. Higley doesn't seem like she has the forethought to plan long term stories, so that doesn't shock me. I just assume if Malone had stuck around he might have actually put some effort into making the Killing Club story as seen on the show have *some* relation to the novel. Out of some masochistic urge I googled the Love Project and found some fansite that has praise for the story and a few pics (though this seems to be written just as the story started) http://frostbitten4.tripod.com/id41.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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