Actually, this was taken from Errol's report on this very board.

I have to ask; how does Errol know that Frons was chuckling at the soap fans booing him? Chuckling seems so tame. I mean, since he is the "evilest evil that ever eviled" *sarcasm* I would have expected him at least to point and laugh hysterically.

I am just even surprised he even noticed us.

I am just even surprised he even noticed us.

How do you know that he noticed you? Were you there? I am asking seriously.I haven't seen a report with the details of what happened at the protest.

Edited May 18, 201114 yr by Ann_SS

How do you know that he noticed you? Were you there? I am asking seriously.I haven't seen a report with the details of what happened at the protest.

I wasn't there I was just saying he noticed the soap fans.

But thats true how do we know he was even looking at the protesters?

Actually, this was taken from Errol's report on this very board.

I have to ask; how does Errol know that Frons was chuckling at the soap fans booing him? Chuckling seems so tame. I mean, since he is the "evilest evil that ever eviled" *sarcasm* I would have expected him at least to point and laugh hysterically.

Right? He could've been laughing at remembering something Jimmy Kimmel said during the upfront presentation. From what I've read about the presentations, it doesn't sound like anybody laughed at Jimmy Kimmel but you know what I mean. However this adds to the David and Goliath ethos.

Argh, I resent having to argue anything in Frons' favor. If I ever ended up near the guy, the cops would have to pull a full on Rodney King to pull me off him ("She won't stay down! Hit her again! HIT HER AGAIN!!") but there's got to be some perspective here.

http://daytimeconfidential.zap2it.com/2011/05/18/did-brian-frons-laugh-at-heartbroken-soap-fans-protesting-outside-of-abc-upfronts

He really is despicable.

Argh, I resent having to argue anything in Frons' favor. If I ever ended up near the guy, the cops would have to pull a full on Rodney King to pull me off him ("She won't stay down! Hit her again! HIT HER AGAIN!!") but there's got to be some perspective here.

You and me both. I'd have to wear his ass out, and Anne's too. I may think some fans have gone way overboard, but one thing I will not compromise is how terribly incompetent these two are when it comes to running a successful daytime lineup. And replacing soaps with cheaper shows is not running a successful lineup because, guess what, some day, those shows will cost more than what they bring in. Either by increased production costs or extremely bad ratings (my money's on the latter).

As for me and my house? We will blame Brian Frons. "I will blame Brian Frons. I will blame Brian Frons. I will blame Brian Frons 'til I diiiiie."

As for me and my house? We will blame Brian Frons. "I will blame Brian Frons. I will blame Brian Frons. I will blame Brian Frons 'til I diiiiie."

I laugh at some of these people hating Frons because so many of them have been watching in ignorant bliss while he drove these shows into the ground but NOW that they've seen the light they want to tell the rest of us how bad he is like it's news. It like when your cousin becomes a vegan because his new girlfriend is one, then comes to Thanksgiving and lectures everyone about evils of factory farming. Ummm...didn't you eat TWO plates of the deep fried turkey last year? With gravy?! Mmmm-hmmm.

I laugh at some of these people hating Frons because so many of them have been watching in ignorant bliss while he drove these shows into the ground but NOW that they've seen the light they want to tell the rest of us how bad he is like it's news. It like when your cousin becomes a vegan because his new girlfriend is one, then comes to Thanksgiving and lectures everyone about evils of factory farming. Ummm...didn't you eat TWO plates of the deep fried turkey last year? With gravy?! Mmmm-hmmm.

LOL Exactly. I sort of cringed whenever the major news outlets started throwing Frons's name around. Of course, ANY shame that man gets is deserved by him and appreciated by me, but then the "OMG, I know who did this! A man named Brian Frons!" started, and it was just like...ugh. They don't know! They don't! It reminds ME of when 9/11 happened and our teacher told us who bin Laden was, so 11-year-old me came home and told my parents, "It was some man named Bob Louden! He did it!"

Anyone see CamMat on the talk? Typical Cam towing the company line, basically siding with ABC about the cancellations all with a smile LOL

Anyone see CamMat on the talk? Typical Cam towing the company line, basically siding with ABC about the cancellations all with a smile LOL

I will gladly eat my words if he says different, but I would not be a-tall surprised if he was the first to pop up on The Chewvolution. You know he fancies himself a host, he probably wants in on The Frons's next pilot. I think CM would rather be a host than an actor anyway, my guess is that he would love to be doing what Mario Lopez is doing for example.

I laugh at some of these people hating Frons because so many of them have been watching in ignorant bliss while he drove these shows into the ground but NOW that they've seen the light they want to tell the rest of us how bad he is like it's news.

There were plenty of people railing against Frons before the shows got cancelled. They were just drowned out by assorted fandoms such as the ones seen on Facebook, Soap Central, or the old ABC message boards. It's awful how fractured things have gotten. For some, the state of a soap rests solely on how well their faves are being treated.

Edited May 18, 201114 yr by trish672

There were plenty of people railing against Frons before the shows got cancelled. They were just drowned out by assorted fandoms such as the ones seen on Facebook, Soap Central, or the old ABC message boards. It's awful how fractured things have gotten. For many, the state of a soap rests solely on how well their faves are being treated.

I remember saying on AMC's FB page once after a particularly bad ratings showing that they needed to turn things around fast or else suffer the same fate as ATWT and GL. Do you know how many people jumped in to say some variation of "This show ain't going nowhere!" "They'll never cancel AMC!" and "Wheres ZAAAAAAAACCCCKKK????!!!!" (To be fair, that last one was pretty constant no matter what the subject was.) There was no acknowledgement of reality. Even after three canceled soaps in as many years, people just thought things would stay the same forever.

There were plenty of people railing against Frons before the shows got cancelled. They were just drowned out by assorted fandoms such as the ones seen on Facebook, Soap Central, or the old ABC message boards. It's awful how fractured things have gotten. For some, the state of a soap rests solely on how well their faves are being treated.

The only way to voice protest is to do what people have been doing for years which is turning off the TV. Sadly no one in charge anywhere and thats ABC,NBC, CBS cared enough to improve. THere needed to be someone in charge somewhere who gave a da*n.

I remember saying on AMC's FB page once after a particularly bad ratings showing that they needed to turn things around fast or else suffer the same fate as ATWT and GL. Do you know how many people jumped in to say some variation of "This show ain't going nowhere!" "They'll never cancel AMC!" and "Wheres ZAAAAAAAACCCCKKK????!!!!" (To be fair, that last one was pretty constant no matter what the subject was.) There was no acknowledgement of reality. Even after three canceled soaps in as many years, people just thought things would stay the same forever.

LOL I know many people that have said they thought the ABC soaps were the safest cause ABC owned them

I just read that Desperate Housewives repeats don't do well on Lifetime either

The only way to voice protest is to do what people have been doing for years which is turning off the TV. Sadly no one in charge anywhere and thats ABC,NBC, CBS cared enough to improve. THere needed to be someone in charge somewhere who gave a da*n.

A very important point that is often lost sight of. Some of us confuse apathy with mismanagement. Those pilots didn't happen overnight. They were making moves in the directions they wanted to take with less and less and ultimately no interest in how to save soaps by creative nor financial means.