Members yr9190 Posted February 28, 2012 Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 That September 18, 1998 episode was one of the best episodes of classic Y&R i have seen! It just had everything that (use to) represented what a soap opera was about, and had an awesome cliffhanger. Strange that 1998 was already a year where other soaps were dumbing down or about to dumb down, but I guess what people said about Kay Alden taking over after Bill was true, that she was able to open up the show. I'm gonna have to try and watch all the other 1998 episodes of Y&R that have already been uploaded. It was probably Y&R's Best year in the late 90's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted February 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 1998 was probably the last year I really enjoyed Y&R, and the last completely solid-to-good year of any soap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted February 28, 2012 Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Y&R's last solid year was 2003. After that it was all downhill. Edited February 28, 2012 by DeeeDee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted February 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 Aside from the fraud story with Victor what were the other stories in 2003? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted February 28, 2012 Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 Katherine Vs. Jill Neil & Dru remarry Sharon against the rest of the Newmans Brad & Ashley marriage starts to crumble JT & Colleen Raul & Brittany Larry & Jill Samurai Chemist, Bobby & Fred & Anita were introduced Paul/Cricket/Michael/Isabella Diane/Aunt Jack/Giggly The only bad things were Heather leaving, losing Gina's, the stupid Mother/Daughter twist, the casting of Lily & anything to do with Kevin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted February 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 Thanks. I think I'd tuned out by then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted February 28, 2012 Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 It was Y&R's last solid year. Even though the writing was horrible in the second half of the year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yr9190 Posted February 28, 2012 Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 It looked like 2003 was Victor's year to finally go down for all the terrible stuff he did and for all the people he wronged. He kissed Sharon, and had to suffer getting punches from Nick, and later John Abbott, had to face meeting his father albert who was just as terrible as Victor himself, all leading up to his arrest. I guess for whatever stupid reason in 2004, Jack Smith thought it would be best for Victor to go about his business doing all the crushing again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted February 28, 2012 Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 Victor was never going to lose. He was pretty much forgiven by almost everyone by the end of the year. The next year just made it even worse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted February 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 Did Heather Tom's exit affect their story plans or did they know she was gone? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yr9190 Posted February 28, 2012 Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 So they weren't really planning on letting Victor go down? It was probably nice to see that even Victor could fall flat on his you know what when it came to physical alliances, (Nick and John being his example) It was always made out to be that no one would ever win a physical fight against the mustache, until those 2. Dumb question, but what did Victor do in 2004-2005? It's so depressing that she left while she was going out with Michael. I would have loved to see Heather's Victoria go at it with Lauren. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CSF Posted February 28, 2012 Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 Did anyone or can anyone elaborate on the Alden/Scott feud? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted February 28, 2012 Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 Somewhat. Y&R was planning on backburnering Victoria anyway. Heather leaving just made them do it faster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted February 28, 2012 Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 Not in the way the story would have logically dictated. Victor was never going to really lose but the way he won BY losing was insane. Neither of those was a fight especially since Victor never tried to fight back. However Victor's been in plenty of fights though it's only been since Bergman was cast that Victor became unstoppable. Built a rec center, got Jack fired, ran Jabot into the ground, made friends with Michael, helped end Brad & Ashley's marriage, fought the mob & made up with Victoria & Nick. Michael would've never been paired with Lauren if Heather had stayed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted February 28, 2012 Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 1998 was indeed a near-perfect year. I am so sad that nothing really came of Michael/Victoria. I felt they showed incredible promise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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