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[asafi]

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[Paul Raven]

re Y&R opening sequence.

Do we know when the first changes were made?

I would guess in 74 to accommodate Kay and Lorie (and Philip?) and the departure of Sally.

Was Pierre included in the original sketches? Peggy?

I guess the next time an update was needed when Snapper and Leslie were recast.

Did Greg#2 ever make it to the opening?

What characters in the 70's never appeared in the opening?

[asafi]

Any reason why the powers that be recreated Victor’s return from the dead in 1999? He already made a much more impactful and shocking return in 1993. Why repeat the same stunt?

 

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[kalbir]

1999 was Victor's third "death" but there was no funeral. The 1983 and 1993 "deaths" had funerals.

[YRBB]

While it's popularly referred to as such, Victor didn't die in 1999. The family kept looking for him up to his return, and had plenty of suspicion/hope he is alive since there were tracks leading away from his plane crash (including a call from Ramona saying so). They were losing hope and some assume he had to be dead because how did he survive in the desert for months?

I also disagree that it was a stunt. Victor's "death" (or lack thereof) was instrumental in the Newman Takeover (having provided Brad and Jack the opportunity to succeed unmolested and then solidify their hold over the company while he was gone). It was a legitimate storyline unto its own (potentially spinning off Ramona story) with great sets built, good performances, and a fantastic climax on location, and not to mention gave them the chance for another dramatic entrance (and the classic "I will crush you!" scene). 

[Aback]

Thanks! I loved the episode. 

I have nothing against Shari Shattuck. To me she’s a decent actress. She just lacked the “allure” that Ashley needs and was probably too young for the role. I also have to wonder why they recast in the first place. They saddled SS’s Ashley with these uninspired, inconsequential stories (Kurt?) - separate from whatever was going on with Jack and Brad… It was obvious that the character needed some rest. 

[kalbir]

Shari Shattuck is one year younger than ED, so age-wise her casting was fine.

I agree that Bill Bell should have rested Ashley from BE departure until ED return.

[Aback]

Oh okay I thought she was younger. 

BTW the owner of the channel commented they’re going to post another episode tomorrow. 

[DRW50]

There's a second part to this I have somewhere although I don't think Eileen says a lot in it as the focus is on a sitcom actress.

No Y&R clip in this, sadly, but I thought some of you still might enjoy seeing this again from whenever it was last on Youtube.

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[Joseph]

Honestly I liked Shari as Ashley, her acting in the Dina Return from 1996 was pretty good IMHO, I think it was the uninspired storylines afterwards that didn't let her shine much

Now A Question:

Were there any slaps on The Show This past year? I didn't watch regularly and don't remember any

[asafi]

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Is it just me, or was Sandra Nelson a great Phyllis?

 

[Liberty City]

Shari Shattuck was not a bad Ashley; she just felt too cold for my liking, and she's even the first Ashley I recall watching. And wasn't the role recast because Brenda Epperson decided to leave? Some time passed between Epperson's final episode and Shattuck's debut.

Sandra Nelson was a fantastic Phyllis for the time period she was on the show. Again, she is the first Phyllis I recall watching. Much like the work of Gina Tognoni, I feel like Nelson's work in the role helped ground the character... which it needed. For me, it's Michelle Stafford's work that keeps Phyllis the way she is, and it's hindering the character.

[janea4old]

This scene is some of the best of Y&R. And yeah Sandra Nelson rocks!

Edited January 7 by janea4old

[DRW50]

@asafi Sandra Nelson was extremely underrated as Phyllis. She played a lot of the darkness the portrayal later lost. It was unfortunate seeing her just slowly fade away from the canvas.

Edited January 7 by DRW50

[Joseph]

Nah, it's not just you, I LOVE HER AS PHYLLIS! I always cry at the scene when her Phyllis loses custody of Daniel!