1 hour ago, Franko said:

Thank you! I'm guessing that the fight started on Monday, May 2, and wrapped Tuesday, May 3.

 

The lead up to the scene is through Act Six, so looks like the scene in question happens in Act Seven. The tape schedule for the next episode, 4442, shows Marie/Liz/Neil/Don at Liz's Apartment in the Teaser Act.

 

So, as you guessed, this confirms it happens in Act Seven of 4441 (5/2/83). We are just missing the scene itself.

 

I don't know why I had so many random pages from this episode, but at least it helped us tonight!  The parts X'd out did not make it to air, so you get a little more than you would have if you watched the episode.

 

And, as an extra treat, Neil talks about Noel (spelled the correct way!)  Many on the soap boards like to incorrectly spell it Noelle, but it is Noel.

 

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I love it! Thanks so much, @JAS0N47. Over the years, we've talked about how Days lost something when the older, lived-loved-lost crowd got pushed to the side. Even these glances say so much.

9 minutes ago, Franko said:

I love it! Thanks so much, @JAS0N47. Over the years, we've talked about how Days lost something when the older, lived-loved-lost crowd got pushed to the side. Even these glances say so much.

You're welcome!  And I figured out why I had these random pages, since they match up to the same pages in Bo's debut. I must have asked for the Bo-specific pages in 4442, but was originally accidentally sent those page #s from 4441. So, this is thanks to a long-ago mistake!

1 hour ago, Franko said:

I love it! Thanks so much, @JAS0N47. Over the years, we've talked about how Days lost something when the older, lived-loved-lost crowd got pushed to the side. Even these glances say so much.

And here's the Soap Digest synopsis, which fleshes out what happened at the end of 4441 and the rest of 4442. And the tape schedule and parking clearance for 4442 as well:

 

 

 

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Thanks @JAS0N47 . This is all such high drama. Sometimes I wonder if Liz took over a part Mary might have played. How much groundwork was there between Liz and Marie? (or either lady and Neil)

 

10 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks @JAS0N47 . This is all such high drama. Sometimes I wonder if Liz took over a part Mary might have played. How much groundwork was there between Liz and Marie? (or either lady and Neil)

Funny you should mention that:

8/31/81-9/4/81: "Mary conceded defeat to Marie for Alex and teased Neil about rekindling old sparks."

At the time of the shooting, Liz & Neil had been on-and-off for nearly three years. Marie & Neil had been together for about six months (minus early flirting and her doing the Florence Nightingale thing when he had pneumonia).

On the whole, I'm glad they didn't pair the spares and have Marie get with Don.

 

20 hours ago, Franko said:

Gosh, I hope Jeanie was around to throw Marie out.

 

God... I'm so irked we don't have this period available to watch. Thanks for sharing. 

49 minutes ago, Franko said:

Funny you should mention that:

8/31/81-9/4/81: "Mary conceded defeat to Marie for Alex and teased Neil about rekindling old sparks."

At the time of the shooting, Liz & Neil had been on-and-off for nearly three years. Marie & Neil had been together for about six months (minus early flirting and her doing the Florence Nightingale thing when he had pneumonia).

On the whole, I'm glad they didn't pair the spares and have Marie get with Don.

I wonder if that would have happened if Lanna hadn't left.

Thanks for the extra details. 

This seems beneath the characters, in some ways, and is the type of writing more mature female characters in degrading ways that reminds me of later daytime stories, but everyone involved is so easy to invest in and there's enough of a history for most of them (even if not together) where it doesn't just seem like dolls being thrown at each other. 

Reading the part where Don said he was going to leave Salem makes me wonder why they didn't just have him go ahead and leave (he vanishes around 85 doesn't he?)

1 hour ago, Franko said:

On the whole, I'm glad they didn't pair the spares and have Marie get with Don.

They seemed to lose interest in Marie after she and Neil divorced. Pretty much the only thing that happened to her after that was that flirtation with Bo’s PI friend, Howie.

She actually just disappeared like Don as well. 

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4 hours ago, DRW50 said:

This seems beneath the characters, in some ways, and is the type of writing more mature female characters in degrading ways that reminds me of later daytime stories, but everyone involved is so easy to invest in and there's enough of a history for most of them (even if not together) where it doesn't just seem like dolls being thrown at each other. 

I've said it before, but Gloria Loring must have had one hell of an it factor, since Liz's storylines from 1981-83 are complicated as hell.

One other detail I forgot to mention: At the time of the shooting, Marie & Neil had been married for less than two months.

4 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Reading the part where Don said he was going to leave Salem makes me wonder why they didn't just have him go ahead and leave (he vanishes around 85 doesn't he?)

Yes, spring 1985.

4 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

They seemed to lose interest in Marie after she and Neil divorced. Pretty much the only thing that happened to her after that was that flirtation with Bo’s PI friend, Howie.

Days already had a wacky couple with Eugene & Calliope, but I wonder if they were considering a more grounded version with Howie & Marie.

4 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

They seemed to lose interest in Marie after she and Neil divorced. Pretty much the only thing that happened to her after that was that flirtation with Bo’s PI friend, Howie.

She actually just disappeared like Don as well. 

They didn't lose interest in Marie, but Lanna Saunders was diagnosed with MS in 1982, and had to stop acting on Days in 1985 when she became too ill to continue. So, they were probably doing their best to keep her in storylines for as long as she was still able to work.

23 minutes ago, JAS0N47 said:

They didn't lose interest in Marie, but Lanna Saunders was diagnosed with MS in 1982, and had to stop acting on Days in 1985 when she became too ill to continue. So, they were probably doing their best to keep her in storylines for as long as she was still able to work.

Oh wow i never knew that. Makes sense why there were times when her story with Howie progressed further and then was back burned for weeks. 
 

44 minutes ago, JAS0N47 said:

They didn't lose interest in Marie, but Lanna Saunders was diagnosed with MS in 1982, and had to stop acting on Days in 1985 when she became too ill to continue. So, they were probably doing their best to keep her in storylines for as long as she was still able to work.

Yeah, I remember hearing that.

It’s too bad that she didn’t get an exit storyline though. 

Judi Evans, dressed in her pajamas, is in the first two episodes.