David: You're breaking up with me Jake?

But writers, when you can't say Cracker Jacks, the joke is DOA.

Nice young Tad-like move there Damon, though a veteran schemer like Liza could certainly flip you taking half-naked cell phone pics to her own favor.

So Ryan's MacGyver too...

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I could care less about who's in the opening, who's not in the opening, blase blah, but I do not like the stylistic choice ( ) of how the opening just abruptly *happens* these days. They should really bring back the vamp. Such a simple and effective way to draw in the audience, it was a non-verbal, "Uh-oh, here we go y'all" that even made not-so-interesting stories seem a little more exciting.

Edited June 9, 201015 yr by SFK

Finally, what makes AMC reeks these days is the fact that this big production is for a couple I don't remotely buy. Jake and Amanda and their happy ending?

I agree. A week long build up to a fake wedding of an already married couple...? I'll pass. And thanks to this episode, I see that's not a bad thing. Jamanda is hardly worth this focus. I feel an incredible manipulation is being done. ABC: "You WILL get excited about this couple! You WILL think Jake and Amanda are the next Zach and Kendall, Tad and Dixie or Jesse and Angie!"

No thanks.

If I were you, though, I'd get used to it. David Kreizman has clearly (and unfortunately) appointed Jake and Amanda to be his "signature couple" for AMC, and all us haters better lead, follow, or get the hell out of his way.

As DeeeDee would say, "Jesus. Just cancel it."

ABC: "You WILL get excited about this couple! You WILL think Jake and Amanda are the next Zach and Kendall, Tad and Dixie or Jesse and Angie!"

Give them time, give them time.

If I were you, though, I'd get used to it. David Kreizman has clearly (and unfortunately) appointed Jake and Amanda to be his "signature couple" for AMC, and all us haters better lead, follow, or get the hell out of his way.

As DeeeDee would say, "Jesus. Just cancel it."

I don't have to get used to sh. Literally. That's what this is. I'm taking a break.

Give them time, give them time.

Sadly, I'm fresh out of time.

Let me know when Cornelius takes off his shirt!.

Let me know when Cornelius takes off his shirt!.

Sadly,I suspect that by the next time that happens the only way we'll be able to tell you is with a seance.

Finally, what makes AMC reeks these days is the fact that this big production is for a couple I don't remotely buy. Jake and Amanda and their happy ending?

If only it really were their ending I think I could stomach this Sh!t. It's false advertising though. This isn't their ending. No one is dying. No one is riding off into the sunset. No one is leaving the show never ever to be seen or heard from on my TV set again. No, it's just going to go on and on with endless vow renewals coming our way. I'm starting to look forward to Alicia coming back and reclaiming her 40 mins of airtime a day.

If I were you, though, I'd get used to it. David Kreizman has clearly (and unfortunately) appointed Jake and Amanda to be his "signature couple" for AMC, and all us haters better lead, follow, or get the hell out of his way.

LMAO!

Yeah, they're his "signature couple" even though they have no story coming up in the summer previews posted on this site from SOW or SOD. Maybe you should actually watch the show and find out what's going on.

LMAO!

Yeah, they're his "signature couple" even though they have no story coming up in the summer previews posted on this site from SOW or SOD. Maybe you should actually watch the show and find out what's going on.

But watching the show would lead someone to believe they are a signature couple. How could anyone who doesn't read previews be expected to know they aren't going to be on hot and heavy this summer? After this week I would fully expect them to have a story this summer. Maybe that won't be the case, but no one could know that just by watching what is on the screen right now.

Maybe you should actually watch the show and find out what's going on.

And maybe you should ask somebody who knows me, b/c you clearly don't.

I do watch AMC, as well as keep up with it through the magazines. Perhaps, I don't watch it everyday, but that's just b/c AMC hasn't done anything to keep me watching everyday in quite the while.

Also, I've been around long enough to know summer/fall/sweeps/etc. previews in SOW and SOD mean zilch. Just b/c Dave & Donna didn't talk about Jake and Amanda w/ reporters doesn't mean the two won't have a whole bunch more story coming up. Plans always change (especially these days, when very few work from actual, long-term plans).

Also, for the record, I am NOT a Jake/Amanda fan. If you can't tell that from my previous post, then I'm sorry. But don't go assuming agendas where there are none.

Edited June 11, 201015 yr by Khan

You've only bolstered my opinion.

Well, I didn't say you were wrong, did I, lol? As a matter of fact, R, I think your opinions about AMC are, for the most part, dead-on. I just can't get behind David like you do. I'd like to, but I can't.

And maybe you should ask somebody who knows me, b/c you clearly don't.

I do watch AMC, as well as keep up with it through the magazines. Perhaps, I don't watch it everyday, but that's just b/c AMC hasn't done anything to keep me watching everyday in quite the while.

Also, I've been around long enough to know summer/fall/sweeps/etc. previews in SOW and SOD mean zilch. Just b/c Dave & Donna didn't talk about Jake and Amanda w/ reporters doesn't mean the two won't have a whole bunch more story coming up. Plans always change (especially these days, when very few work from actual, long-term plans).

Also, for the record, I am NOT a Jake/Amanda fan. If you can't tell that from my previous post, then I'm sorry. But don't go assuming agendas where there are none.

I'm not assuming an agenda, but it's obvious you hate Kriezman and keep writing these ludicrous rants about what's going to happen. You don't know anything more than I do about story projections. I'm sorry if you're offended, but it's ridiculous to call Jake/Amanda the "signature" couple when they're not going to be featured every day like Gus & Harley were on GL.

Well, I didn't say you were wrong, did I, lol? As a matter of fact, R, I think your opinions about AMC are, for the most part, dead-on. I just can't get behind David like you do. I'd like to, but I can't.

It's not about getting behind David. I've articulated it very clearly in the past. I don't like being told who I'm supposed to root for. I don't like being told that two characters can be up to their eyeballs in muck and grime, but it's okay for one character because all the other characters continuously say they're good... and it's bad for the other character because all the other characters say they're bad.

I can totally accept characters not liking someone. Brooke and Erica hated each other, but neither was painted as a villain because of that dislike.

What I can't accept is Jesse, for instance, telling Liza she has no soul because she did what she was paid to do as David's lawyer and got him acquitted. It's like, "Oh, really? No soul? You -- a man who has sworn to uphold the law, protect and to serve, yet allowed your daughter in-law to commit "murder," stuff the body of an elected official into a car and roll it over a cliff in an undignified way... is telling someone else they have no soul?"

It's simply, how about this? You people quit writing stories about morally ambiguous people judging other people for being morally ambiguous? Also, quit thinking those of us who have seen all these characters do all of these morally reprehensible things will somehow block it out as soon as someone labels them as "good"?

But watching the show would lead someone to believe they are a signature couple. How could anyone who doesn't read previews be expected to know they aren't going to be on hot and heavy this summer? After this week I would fully expect them to have a story this summer. Maybe that won't be the case, but no one could know that just by watching what is on the screen right now.

Exactly.

It's not about getting behind David. I've articulated it very clearly in the past. I don't like being told who I'm supposed to root for. I don't like being told that two characters can be up to their eyeballs in muck and grime, but it's okay for one character because all the other characters continuously say they're good... and it's bad for the other character because all the other characters say they're bad.

I agree.

I can totally accept characters not liking someone. Brooke and Erica hated each other, but neither was painted as a villain because of that dislike.

I agree.

What I can't accept is Jesse, for instance, telling Liza she has no soul because she did what she was paid to do as David's lawyer and got him acquitted. It's like, "Oh, really? No soul? You -- a man who has sworn to uphold the law, protect and to serve, yet allowed your daughter in-law to commit "murder," stuff the body of an elected official into a car and roll it over a cliff in an undignified way... is telling someone else they have no soul?"

I agree. Oh, and guess what --

It's simply, how about this? You people quit writing stories about morally ambiguous people judging other people for being morally ambiguous? Also, quit thinking those of us who have seen all these characters do all of these morally reprehensible things will somehow block it out as soon as someone labels them as "good"?

I agree here, too.

So...what were we fighting about again? ACK! This whole cynicism-mistaken-for-ranting business has me all confuzzled!

I'm not assuming an agenda, but it's obvious you hate Kriezman and keep writing these ludicrous rants about what's going to happen. You don't know anything more than I do about story projections.

You're right; I don't. (Neither do Dave and Donna, for that matter, and it's their projections, lol.) Nor have I pretended to know.

I will say, however, I've watched enough of Dave's work on ATWT and GUIDING LIGHT to know a "repeat offender" when I see one. (And I'll leave it at that. Seriously. No more "rants" from me on this particular subject.)

I'm sorry if you're offended, but it's ridiculous to call Jake/Amanda the "signature" couple when they're not going to be featured every day like Gus & Harley were on GL.

Famous last words.