7 hours ago, Taoboi said:

YASSS!!! @Cat @NothinButAttitude @DaytimeFan @Antoyne @Gray Bunny I guess we called it perfectly on Karen. 

I honestly didn’t expect Andy to show up at her house for a sit down. He hasn’t done that since Luann, my other favorite Taurus Queen.

Also depending on the casting for OC 20, I will more than likely be skipping it like I’m skipping next season of BH. I’m done hate watching housewives.

RHOC:

Bringing Gretchen back as a 'friend of' in season 19 reminds me of why I was happy when the show did a soft reset for season 9 when Alexis/Gretchen were let go and Shannon/Lizzie were added.

Sadly, Andy is out of touch with the world and viewers that I wonder if maybe he needs to be replaced by someone younger and with more perspective on what is popular in 2025 vs 2010.

OC20 will be a bust if there isn't a soft reboot.   To me... Tamra needs to be put on pause, Gretchen/Emily need to go bye bye, and Gina needs to be downgraded to 'friend of'.. and Heather can decide what she wants to do.. but she is so checked out.

Seeing part 2 of the reunion, I can see Katie's husband is the brains in that relationship.   Katie keeps making the same mistakes without really learning (i.e. bringing up tidbits like Shannon talking to the producer about firing with her only source being Jenn... the same Jenn that threw her under the bus during the season).

I almost want to have Katie being fired for not being smart... but I do admit I would like to see the Shannon/Jenn/Katie dynamic explored more and I think perhaps the show should scale back on the cast trips going back to the final cast trip being the only trip the women go on together.

7 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

RHOC:

Bringing Gretchen back as a 'friend of' in season 19 reminds me of why I was happy when the show did a soft reset for season 9 when Alexis/Gretchen were let go and Shannon/Lizzie were added.

Sadly, Andy is out of touch with the world and viewers that I wonder if maybe he needs to be replaced by someone younger and with more perspective on what is popular in 2025 vs 2010.

OC20 will be a bust if there isn't a soft reboot.   To me... Tamra needs to be put on pause, Gretchen/Emily need to go bye bye, and Gina needs to be downgraded to 'friend of'.. and Heather can decide what she wants to do.. but she is so checked out.

Seeing part 2 of the reunion, I can see Katie's husband is the brains in that relationship.   Katie keeps making the same mistakes without really learning (i.e. bringing up tidbits like Shannon talking to the producer about firing with her only source being Jenn... the same Jenn that threw her under the bus during the season).

I almost want to have Katie being fired for not being smart... but I do admit I would like to see the Shannon/Jenn/Katie dynamic explored more and I think perhaps the show should scale back on the cast trips going back to the final cast trip being the only trip the women go on together.

I've never seen even 1 episode of Orange County. What season should I start... ? Are the first ones even worth it? 😁

48 minutes ago, Maxim said:

I've never seen even 1 episode of Orange County. What season should I start... ? Are the first ones even worth it? 😁

You can go with season 17. That was when Tamra returned and a good jumping point for the modern era. Season 18 was on fire and one of the best seasons across all franchises. I thought it was the best last year rivaled only by SLC. Every episode was a banger. Maybe 1 was a filler but even then it was a 7.5 quality

Oh God. We did not need this to happen. WTAF.

6 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

Oh God. We did not need this to happen. WTAF.

Oh yes we did! I'm so excited   Vicky is the OG and what a way to celebrate 20 seasons!

1 hour ago, Maxim said:

I've never seen even 1 episode of Orange County. What season should I start... ? Are the first ones even worth it? 😁

Personally I think so, but I also get it if you want to jump ahead because there are so many seasons and the first 4-5 seasons look older.  It would be sad to miss out on Jeana and Laurie, but if you don't want to start from the beginning, maybe start with Season 5 when Alexis joins, and then Heather soon after. Otherwise Season 9 is pretty GOAT when Shannon joins, which is another good starting point.

2 hours ago, Cheap21 said:

You can go with season 17. That was when Tamra returned and a good jumping point for the modern era. Season 18 was on fire and one of the best seasons across all franchises. I thought it was the best last year rivaled only by SLC. Every episode was a banger. Maybe 1 was a filler but even then it was a 7.5 quality

That's a great suggestion. Thank you. 🙏 I may do this... since I don't know if I'll be able to watch 20 seasons one after another. 

1 hour ago, alwaysAMC said:

Personally I think so, but I also get it if you want to jump ahead because there are so many seasons and the first 4-5 seasons look older.  It would be sad to miss out on Jeana and Laurie, but if you don't want to start from the beginning, maybe start with Season 5 when Alexis joins, and then Heather soon after. Otherwise Season 9 is pretty GOAT when Shannon joins, which is another good starting point.

Another great suggestion. Thank you!!! Now I'll have to think more... let it sit in my brain for a bit before I decide. A part of me wants to start at 17, per @Cheap21's idea...  but I also heard that the first Tamra seasons were interesting too. I'm a bit thorn, but I'll just go with the instincts when I open the app. 

1 hour ago, alwaysAMC said:

Oh yes we did! I'm so excited   Vicky is the OG and what a way to celebrate 20 seasons!

Personally I think so, but I also get it if you want to jump ahead because there are so many seasons and the first 4-5 seasons look older.  It would be sad to miss out on Jeana and Laurie, but if you don't want to start from the beginning, maybe start with Season 5 when Alexis joins, and then Heather soon after. Otherwise Season 9 is pretty GOAT when Shannon joins, which is another good starting point.

@MaximIf you do want to jump in on season 17 (which is the start of the modern OC.. for better or worse).. you would probably be a little lost because it's dominated by a lot of Tamra/Shannon dysfunction that happened during that season so in order to get an idea on how that whole situation started.. season 9 is a good resource to watch in order to understand the start of the Tamra/Shannon/Heather dynamic.

When you get to season 18 and Alexis shows up as a 'friend of'... season 5 is a good resource point to see how she came onto the show and to give you context as to why she would go for a guy like John (Shannon's ex).

When you get to season 19 and Gretchen  shows up as a 'friend of'.... you would need to watch season 4 in order to get the backstory on Naked Wasted and the start of the whole Gretchen/Tamra situation.

@alwaysAMC is correct though that season 9 is another good place to start off because that was when the show did a soft reset/reboot and Shannon was introduced.

Many years ago, my late mom turned on OC by accident during season 8 and was so confused about the Gretchen/Tamra situation that I told her to start with season 4.. and she fell in love and binged watch season 4 through 8 before watching season 9 and becoming a die hard Shannon fan (and of course, she then went back to watch the first three seasons she missed because she became a fan of Jeana and to a lesser extent Lauri - the wallet whisperer).

 

 

57 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

@MaximIf you do want to jump in on season 17 (which is the start of the modern OC.. for better or worse).. you would probably be a little lost because it's dominated by a lot of Tamra/Shannon dysfunction that happened during that season so in order to get an idea on how that whole situation started.. season 9 is a good resource to watch in order to understand the start of the Tamra/Shannon/Heather dynamic.

When you get to season 18 and Alexis shows up as a 'friend of'... season 5 is a good resource point to see how she came onto the show and to give you context as to why she would go for a guy like John (Shannon's ex).

When you get to season 19 and Gretchen  shows up as a 'friend of'.... you would need to watch season 4 in order to get the backstory on Naked Wasted and the start of the whole Gretchen/Tamra situation.

@alwaysAMC is correct though that season 9 is another good place to start off because that was when the show did a soft reset/reboot and Shannon was introduced.

Many years ago, my late mom turned on OC by accident during season 8 and was so confused about the Gretchen/Tamra situation that I told her to start with season 4.. and she fell in love and binged watch season 4 through 8 before watching season 9 and becoming a die hard Shannon fan (and of course, she then went back to watch the first three seasons she missed because she became a fan of Jeana and to a lesser extent Lauri - the wallet whisperer).

 

 

Now I have even more food for thought... thank you soooo much for the recommendation. 🤗Thank you to all three of you @Soaplovers @Cheap21 @alwaysAMC. I have a feeling I may jump into 4, just for the hell of it.  

9 minutes ago, Maxim said:

Now I have even more food for thought... thank you soooo much for the recommendation. 🤗Thank you to all three of you @Soaplovers @Cheap21 @alwaysAMC. I have a feeling I may jump into 4, just for the hell of it.  

That's a great idea - enjoy!  Let us know what you think!

I like the recommendations as well. It will come in handy when I decide to go backwards. 

 

As is I'm two/three seasons behind. 

3 hours ago, alwaysAMC said:

That's a great idea - enjoy!  Let us know what you think!

I most certainly will! 🤗

P.S. I am already waiting on the next SLC episode. I want it now... I miss my weekly dose of Lisa calling her husband waking him up with screams on the phone. I want to be that man's therapist for a day. If he has one. He definitely needs it for living with Lisa. 😁

Kurn is BACK!

 

 

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Last night I started Season 4 of OC. The biggest shock for now is how people looked pre-Ozempic and fillers. I love it so far. 😁