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[Taoboi]

 

 

Oh, how I hollered on my way to the house.

 

But as a Gem...yeah on the fence. lol.

[Antoyne]

Same here. I still find her highly entertaining.

[Taoboi]

We will see how I feel once I watch last night episode.

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But I know my opinion has definitely been colored.

[Michael]

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[Taoboi]

JS.

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[DaytimeFan]

I agree. I don't see any real difference between Karen and Shannon other than the timing of their trips to rehab. Shannon is still drinking, still claims she doesn't have an alcohol problem. Karen, on the other hand, stayed pretty sober throughout this season.

[CassieFan]

I'm so bored with Potomac this season, nothing's happening, the newbies are whatever and the whole season is so Mia-centric that I CANNOT.

[Cheap21]

Shannon took accountability in a way that Karen never did. She bullshtted, lied and deflected the entire time and then ran when she could no longer use those excuses. And Karen didnt stay sober. In her confessional 2 episodes ago she said she isnt sober; she just isnt drinking around these women.

Edited January 14 by Cheap21

[Gray Bunny]

I've gotta echo the same sentiment as others about the latest Potomac episode: the constant graphic details of Mia and Jacqueline's sex lives is unnecessary and cheapens the whole brand. I'm certainly no prude, but there are just some things I don't want to know about them, and I cringe to think the "real" people in their lives now know these things, too. 

I feel the same whenever housewives get into details about their pubic hair. Whether it's smooth shaven, waxed, landing strip, or full unruly bush, I don't wanna know! lol 

[DaytimeFan]

You are right. However, their circumstances at the time of filming are different.

Shannon could take accountability because filming resumed after she had already cut her deal with the prosecutor.

Karen, on the other hand, is still in active proceedings and awaiting sentencing, so she cannot admit wrongdoing. To do so would go against every piece of legal advice she received. 

There is no question that Karen does need to take accountability and admit her mistakes. If she does, the audience will forgive her. If she remains deflecting, even after being found guilty, the tide will turn against her. But then again, there are still those who defend Teresa Giudice, and she remains a totally unrepentant convicted felon. 

[Cheap21]

 

Respectully, those are excuses to me and that comes from someone that understands all this and gave her grace. If she was following very piece of legal advice, she'd have taken the plea deal which any  lawyer who saw that footage would have advised her to but thought she was high and mighty and could somehow beat it.

The lack of accountability isnt simply bc she didnt talk about it. She kinda did and what little she did had her lying. Talking about how she was distraught bc of Mother's Day, which was 2 months away at that time. She even blamed Ray and their marital issues for her state of mind leading to the crash. She really didnt have to say much. Acknowledging that there was a lapse of judgement and that she was sorry  for what she had done would have gone a long way in her public perception. She lied to the cast and audience when she told us all she'd be vindicated bc things werent what they seem. She was right bc things were worse than we imagined. Karen did everything she could to protect her image for the season and ultimately that was a disservice to herself. No one cares but her. The videos likely would have never been released had she accepted the plea and settled this but bc she handled it the way she did, she tarnished her legacy. Those images she will never live down and knowing how much her reputation means to her, I know its killing her on the inside

 

Sorry ya'll. I dont see it for the Grande Drunk and will drag her everytime now. Maybe she can redeem herself in time but Im not trying to give her that chance at the moment

Edited January 14 by Cheap21

[Taoboi]

OC

 

Looks like everyone is back.

 

ETA: And it seems like Katie vs Emily?

NY

 

Finale next week. 

No worries. 

 

Perhaps she will. But it will surely be an uphill battle.

 

 

Edited January 14 by Taoboi

[DaytimeFan]

Totally respect your position on this. Karen has made an ass of herself throughout all of this.

[Taoboi]

SLC

 

BLOOP!!!

 

 

[Gray Bunny]

Good decision! I was glad to see that. I think Katie deserves another season, even if she totally fumbled the ball at reunion. 

Thinking of OC's 5 longstanding wives + 2 newbies, it reminds me of currently watching Married to Medicine with the core 5 + 2 newbies that are kind of outsiders (Phaedra, Sweet Tea). 

Edited January 15 by Gray Bunny