Members Chris B Posted July 18, 2021 Members Share Posted July 18, 2021 Even without the earrings this is in poor taste, but with it? Unconscionable. I just wish we could hear her in a meeting with her lawyers because I can’t see them advising her that this is helpful. She hits Twitter usually about once a week with this mess, but of course won’t do an interview because she wants to control the narrative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faulkner Posted July 18, 2021 Members Share Posted July 18, 2021 Very off-topic but I thought it was relevant to Housewives, considering how closely we parse character motivations and dynamics on these shows: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted July 18, 2021 Members Share Posted July 18, 2021 Thank you for linking to the post in question, as distasteful as it is. God. EG thinks she is so edgy and meta posting this crappy fan art. The earrings are a particular kick in the gut to anyone filched by Tom Girardi. Imagine having your victimization reduced to trophy-wife earrings in a LQ cartoon? I would be livid. What is she thinking stirring up mess like this on Twitter? That fans will fall in love with her IDGAF persona? A post like this goes completely counter to the Sad Vulnerable Erika she is attempting to portray on RHOBH. I can't imagine any lawyer advising she stay on social media. Far better to stay silent and the 'enigma' she once claimed to be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted July 18, 2021 Members Share Posted July 18, 2021 Exactly. The Arizona lawsuit she mentioned this week, which named her as a party, stated that Tom was misappropriating client funds to sustain his (and her) lavish lifestyle. That she's claiming she didn't know what's going on is laughable. She could have Google'd herself. I know I did. Bershan is a trip in that interview. You are so right. It doesn't matter if she didn't know. She knows now. Let me put this simply for Erika: You. Don't. Get. To. Live. Off. The. Proceeds. Of. Crime. If Erika doesn't have a receipt proving she paid for it with money she generated on her own, then every piece of jewellery should be confiscated and sold at auction and the proceeds delivered to the victims. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FrenchBug82 Posted July 18, 2021 Members Share Posted July 18, 2021 I guess since I tried to nuance the case against her a bit I can afford to be a meaner than I usually would be now: She probably feels she has earned that jewelry: she has been putting out for that old man. Where he got the money for it in the first place is irrelevant to her; in her mind she has done the "work" to get it and they are hers. You don't marry for $$$ and then shrug when it might have been all for naught. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted July 18, 2021 Members Share Posted July 18, 2021 I don't doubt you are absolutely right in your view on how she feels. That is probably exactly how she feels. But Erika is learning the lesson that how she feels is immaterial. She thought she was hustling Tom Girardi when she married for money, when in fact he hustled her. She doesn't get to retain his ill gotten gains. Now, she might have gotten smart and turned evidence against her in exchange for an immunity agreement from the prosecutors, but that's not going to help her in the civil cases. She'd be wise to cut deals with the victims so that she can get out of this marriage with some form of financial security, however tenuous it might be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted July 18, 2021 Members Share Posted July 18, 2021 Wasn't it great? DP seemed to really vibe with her, and she was a ball of energy. She has clearly watched RHONY for many years (to the question of which former HW she would bring back, she cited Bethenny... and Jill Zarin), which may be a good or bad thing. Nevertheless, the interview gave me hope for the rest of the season (which sounds better) AND for Bershan's future on the show. I'd never thought of it that way at all but you are absolutely right. She thought marrying Tom was her Greatest Bamboozlement, but in actual fact he has parked at least 50% of the blame for the fraud at her door. He pulled one on her. And she's bitter about it. I'd have an ulcer by now thinking about all that debt/lawsuits against me. For peace of mind, a fresh start and no jailtime, I would be looking for a deal to make all this stress go away. For the life of me, I don't understand why she has not. Unless she's gambling on actually winning her case and keeping all 'her' assets? Which is very unlikely to happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Liberty City Posted July 19, 2021 Members Share Posted July 19, 2021 Mia, girl, you were not bartending at the strip joint. Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Taoboi Posted July 19, 2021 Members Share Posted July 19, 2021 I knew you would be bringing the receipts. Please register in order to view this content But yep. Kinda hard to feel sorry for what you see on TV when you have court documents that can be looked, articles from reliable places like People and Page Six where you can't say aren't reliable, and THEN your social media presence supports the fact that you don't care about anyone, but yourself and only want sympathy for yourself while not giving ANY sympathy for other victims. Again...Facts. And while we do not know everything and may never know everything, there is enough information out there (which can be looked for if it does not pop up) for a person to form their own conclusions and also to not give the benefit of the doubt. Like said above (a nice debate I'll read throughly later) even if she was learning all of this now, how Erika is reacting is...not nice. It is the hand she was dealt and she is playing poorly IMHO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FrenchBug82 Posted July 19, 2021 Members Share Posted July 19, 2021 I don't share the confidence that we know all there is to know. We don't know what we don't know. However: This indeed is what tips the balance in the negative for me at the moment. It is hard for me to come up with an overall frame that would make some of what she does now OK. But I like to keep a sense of perspective on the humanity of even wretched people and keep space for compassion and empathy. Because one never knows... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B Posted July 19, 2021 Members Share Posted July 19, 2021 This was sad to watch…nothing was there. They could’ve kept this mid season trailer lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gray Bunny Posted July 19, 2021 Members Share Posted July 19, 2021 Damn. This show's in trouble.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted July 19, 2021 Members Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) It's actually a lot more coherent than I thought it would be? Last season's mid-season trailer was pure chaos. But yeah, RHONY is not going to have a BH-style WHO IS LYING? WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH? trailer this year. Honestly, I feel so bad for RHONY with the Covid restrictions. Constantine Maroulis (sp?) shows up in the trailer at some cocktail bar and I was like "Ooooo now we're getting somewhere!" Mostly because... they were in a cocktail bar in Manhattan! Looking forward to the party where they have to dress up as each other. I also noticed they seem to be terminating with a dinner party which (likely) ends disastrously. This reminds me very much of RHOMelbourne's playbook. The EP over there, Kylie Washington, literally ends every season with a Dinner Party From Hell. Edited July 19, 2021 by Cat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faulkner Posted July 19, 2021 Members Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) Oof. Yes. Bershan is in there only once? Twice—heard her voice with the penis comment, then saw her face later. Edited July 19, 2021 by Faulkner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FrenchBug82 Posted July 19, 2021 Members Share Posted July 19, 2021 I am hugely in favor of female sexuality being talked a lot more openly on TV but this trailer features a LOT of cheap bawdiness for no real reason. Dumb sex jokes sprinkled over a season would not bother me but piling all that juvenile banter in a 90 second trailer on what's coming up? Seems like Leah's being-crass-as-a-substitute-for-a-personality last season strategy has influenced how they are trying to feel the content void. But say something nice: at least Luanna's Eboni impersonation doesn't seem to feature black-face so... progress! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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