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Wisner Washam interview

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Favourite storylines, eh? Hm.

I tend to be bored to death when they start talking about those. :)

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Partly because you haven't seen any of his storylines ;) Well, I kinda agree that's blah, but I would like to hear more specifics about how he worked with Agnes, what he thought did and didn't work on the show, any dropped storylines or network issues (whatabout with the 1983 gay storyline) etc, etc. I just meant, re McTavish, I got the sense that when he left because of her, he stopped paying attention to the show, so I doubt we'll get more thoughts about what's become of the show.

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Partly because you haven't seen any of his storylines ;) Well, I kinda agree that's blah, but I would like to hear more specifics about how he worked with Agnes, what he thought did and didn't work on the show, any dropped storylines or network issues (whatabout with the 1983 gay storyline) etc, etc.

That's more like it! :D

I just meant, re McTavish, I got the sense that when he left because of her, he stopped paying attention to the show, so I doubt we'll get more thoughts about what's become of the show.

And I feel like that would divert the interview from its proper course. This is not an interview about how Wisner Washam felt in regards to Megan McTavish, but a short look back at his career in daytime. Megan was just a part of it, an ugly one, he said what he had to and the interviewer likely won't insist on any further details.

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I can see he was probably different, but even early Kiberd is scary!

The scenes after Trevor and Jeremy's altercation really leave me wanting to see more of the Angie/Cliff pairing. I wonder who's idea it was to pair them up? Was Washam writing at AMC around this time?

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In the video thread I posted when Cliff proposes a while back--I was surprised at what a good pair I thought they made. Wasn't it Agnes herself who came up with the idea? (I swear I heard her talk about it in one of those tons of video seminars we have...) I believe this was around when Wisner was temporarily not at AMC (late 80s). (Maybe it was DePriest, but I have my doubts?) At any rate it's too bad they both were part of such huge super couples (Was this clip actually leading up to Cliff and Nina getting back together and leaving?)

(And am I the only one who thinks that construction worker that Angie is seeing to seems like he's from an 80s gay porn? :P )

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(And am I the only one who thinks that construction worker that Angie is seeing to seems like he's from an 80s gay porn? :P )

No, you're not. Given that some other episodes from around this time had various male characters trying for some pseudo-striptease Mr. Pine Valley job I wonder what was going on in PV at this time. Probably something that does not speak its name.

This episode was about Nina and Cliff getting back together, I think (and notice the way they have Myra try to figure out why Palmer suddenly supports this pairing -- probably the same thing a lot of viewers were trying to figure out).

I really liked what I've seen of Cliff and Angie. I'm sorry that there was backlash against them.

I can't imagine what viewers at this time must have felt like, with all the cast turnover. I know some dead wood probably needed to go (I was cringing a bit at Donna in some of these clips) but there was huge change and some of those who left still had some life in them. It's to AMC's credit that they managed to bring in new characters viewers still responded to.

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That was an interesting interview, hearing about his experiences with foreign soaps. I hope he's right and some are still out there. He's also right about putting them on DVD, not that this seems likely to ever happen.

It must have been disappointing to be fired from his last few soaps but at least he seemed to take it in stride.

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That was an interesting interview, hearing about his experiences with foreign soaps. I hope he's right and some are still out there. He's also right about putting them on DVD, not that this seems likely to ever happen.

It must have been disappointing to be fired from his last few soaps but at least he seemed to take it in stride.

And how about cloning Jesus Christ and Jill Farren not liking him?

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I didn't see the cloning part. I always kind of assume JFP doesn't like any soap vets, although she did seem to like Harding Lemay.

Wisner Washam: I loved Ray Gardner (Gil Rogers). I loved outrageous characters. I loved all those low lives at Foxy's Bar in Center city. I loved Billy Clyde Tuggle and Lettie Jean.

I wonder if he was the reason these types of trashy comic relief characters were so prominent for years. I miss those types of characters, they were a good balance to the more earnest leading PV figures.

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It is a screenplay he mentions called The Cloning about cloning Jesus. Who knows, it really might be interested, even though it really screams laughingstock type of screenplay/film. I'd be really interested to read it.

I agree with you that is was very nice to read about those European soap operas he was hired to do. It is such a shame none of it really materialised. I often wondered how come so many European soaps, sans UK, suck so badly. I can't find a proper explanation, but it's really puzzling why they spend so much money on terrible concepts, awful writers, hideous scripts (dialogue and all) and bad actors.

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I wonder if it has to do with some of them hiring creative talent who don't know enough about the culture or the country. Or trying to imitate or be what they're not, like faded glories of American primetime soaps.

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I didn't see the cloning part. I always kind of assume JFP doesn't like any soap vets, although she did seem to like Harding Lemay.

I wonder if he was the reason these types of trashy comic relief characters were so prominent for years. I miss those types of characters, they were a good balance to the more earnest leading PV figures.

Well that's an Agnes trademark (going at least as far back as her comic characters on AW [Danny Fargo--played by the guy she then gave the role of Vinnie Wolek to on OLTL]) and even to an extent her work on Loving--but I do wonder if Wisner took them and ran with it even further.

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Well that's an Agnes trademark (going at least as far back as her comic characters on AW [Danny Fargo--played by the guy she then gave the role of Vinnie Wolek to on OLTL]) and even to an extent her work on Loving--but I do wonder if Wisner took them and ran with it even further.

I did wonder about that because there was a certain period of time in AMC where they seemed to be most prominent, the Edna Thorntons, Billy Clydes, Opals (the very coarse Opal played by Lyman), and that sort of tracks with his time in charge.

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