I am all for plastic surgery but I think one should wait until after 50 before getting a face lift. So many of these actresses seem to be getting them at 36 and wind up looking like freaks.

My all time fave is Tina Turner. She's 70 and looks awesome.

We should talk about all that Jennifer Garies has had done. I think she is a billboard for too much plastic surgery, even more than those like Zeman and Joan Van Ark, because she got it so young. Even Joan Van Ark didn't start with the heavy stuff until she got to her mid/late 40s.

I guess any discussion of plastic surgery must inevitably turn to Jackie Zeman and Leslie Charleson from GH. What did they do to themselves to look so bad?

Dear gawd, Jackie Zeman...

Smoking is a big no-no before and after surgery. Smoking shrinks capillaries which slows healing and can cause complications during surgery. I remember catching an episode of Dr. 90210 where he told one of his patients that she'd have to quit a couple of weeks before he operated on her. Well, she didn't, and as she was coming out of anesthesia she was wheezing like a furnace and damn near coughed up a lung. He reprimanded her.

I honestly let out a bit of inappropriate laughter after reading this. I don't know why.

What about Crystal Chappell (Carly, DAYS)? Recently, she underwent surgery to remove her breast implants because they were so huge (no [!@#$%^&*], Crystal).

Is there a difference in how you will cope with or look after plastic surgery if you are a heavy smoker, or drinker, versus not doing a lot of either of those?

The difference is absolutely staggering. The skin you go into a surgery with is the skin you come out of a surgery with. Smoking RUINS the skin. It turns it into leathery, dried out, ashen, paper. It's the worst thing you can do, I think it's worse than being a sun worshipper. Booze is terrible too.

Plastic surgery works, to some degree, by stimulating your skin to repair itself after it has sustained an 'injury' (that is how a laser works, theoretically). If your skin function is impaired (thanks to smoking or drinking) then the result is going to be impaired as well.

I was just wondering because I think Jess Walton is or was a heavy smoker. I also wonder if that might have caused some of the unsuccessful plastic surgeries in some actresses.

Was, emphasis on the was. She has aged remarkably well for a smoker. The voice was hers in the 80s, it hasn't changed much since then. Certainly, it's been 'enhanced' (I say that only because I think she has the sexiest voice in the world) by her smoking, but it wasn't what caused it.

Jeanne had her first surgeries around '84, didn't she? Or the first she talked about, anyway. I wonder if she'd quit by then.

She was still smoking till the early 90s. I feel that's why her facelift didn't last her as long as it should have and why her skin is so poor. She as also an alcoholic till the early 80s, so that took it's toll as well.

What about Lauren Koslow? She butchered her face royally in the last few years.

And which ones are we thinking have veneers?

I have to wonder how you think Lauren Koslow butchered her face? For a 56 year old woman, she is absolutely gorgeous. She hasn't had surgery either, just fillers, Botox and very skilled makeup (her husband is a makeup artist). She doesn't look 'done' and still has animation in her face. The lips are just enough, any more and she wouldn't look good.

Almost everyone in television has either had veneers or their teeth professionally whitened. I'd say 99% of people on television, regardless of the medium, have had serious work done on their teeth.

What about Crystal Chappell (Carly, DAYS)? Recently, she underwent surgery to remove her breast implants because they were so huge (no [!@#$%^&*], Crystal).

Crystal has had some very suspect Botox done. It's really impaired her looks and it's caused her eyebrows to droop. That is a temporary side effect and will improve over the next 3-6 months. Her breast implants were inappropriate for her frame. I'm glad she didn't have new ones put in. She is someone who looks her best, naturally.

What do you think of Lisa Rinna's claims that her lips are natural?

And can we think of some men in daytime who have had work done? I can't think of any immediately but I'm sure there are a few.

Bad facelifts on men can sometimes be even more jarring than those on women, like Michael Douglas and Jon Voight. Unless that's just odd aging and not surgery.

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What do you think of Lisa Rinna's claims that her lips are natural?

And can we think of some men in daytime who have had work done? I can't think of any immediately but I'm sure there are a few.

Bad facelifts on men can sometimes be even more jarring than those on women, like Michael Douglas and Jon Voight. Unless that's just odd aging and not surgery.

Lisa Rinna is hilarious. If her lips are real then I am Joan Collins.

LOTS of men in daytime have had work done. LOTS. Many more than you'd think, throw out a name, I'll give you my thoughts.

A bad facelift on a man is the worst. Michael Douglas has had at least 2 and Jon Voight looks awful after his.

What about Michael O'Leary (Rick, GL)? He looked bizarre in GL's last 3-4 years.

Was it just hair dye or was it something else?

BTW, did you hear that Joan Collins is going to be doing a week long stint on the German soap Verbotene Liebe?

Lisa Rinna is hilarious. If her lips are real then I am Joan Collins.

LOTS of men in daytime have had work done. LOTS. Many more than you'd think, throw out a name, I'll give you my thoughts.

A bad facelift on a man is the worst. Michael Douglas has had at least 2 and Jon Voight looks awful after his.

Lisa Rinna has retreated from her "nothing done" claims.

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/lisa-rinna-i-look-like-a-freak-after-too-much-plastic-surgery/17290?nc

Lisa Rinna says she has one major plastic surgery regret.

"My cheeks. I had Juvederm put in my cheeks. That's what I overdid -- big time," Rinna, 45, tells the Web site momlogic.com in a new interview.

"I tried it because my girlfriends did it," she says. "I thought, 'I'll do it! I saw a photo and I was like, 'Oh Jesus. That's no good. That's NOT good.'

"When you change your face, you don't look like yourself," she goes on. "Looking fresher is one thing. I look like a freak! I always said I wouldn't change my face, but I did it.

"I can't not be honest about it. I'd look like a fool. It's so obvious," she goes on. "But when this happened, I realized I couldn't hide it."

Although she still likes Botox ("it doesn't change the shape of my face," she says), she has learned she doesn't need so much surgery.

"You get older and insecure and you think you need it, and you don't," she says. "I learned less is more. Keep your skin good."

What do you think of Lisa Rinna's claims that her lips are natural?

I think she knows the hookah-smoking caterpillar personally.

Josh Taylor and Bob Woods are two guys who've had their faces done.

I had blocked Josh Taylor out of my head

LOTS of men in daytime have had work done. LOTS. Many more than you'd think, throw out a name, I'll give you my thoughts.

Robert S. Woods had something done to his eyes, right?

What about David Canary and Peter Bergman?

I have to wonder how you think Lauren Koslow butchered her face? For a 56 year old woman, she is absolutely gorgeous. She hasn't had surgery either, just fillers, Botox and very skilled makeup (her husband is a makeup artist). She doesn't look 'done' and still has animation in her face. The lips are just enough, any more and she wouldn't look good.

Hmm. I guess. I just think she looks noticeably different than in 2003, when I was following the show heavily. I'd say the lips are much too big, but maybe that's just me. Her cheekbones also looked different.

Robert S. Woods had something done to his eyes, right?

What about David Canary and Peter Bergman?

Considering Adam was wearing shades for an entire episode due to "an eye infection..."?