Members DRW50 Posted November 18, 2009 Members Share Posted November 18, 2009 The first year of Craig was just vile. Hey, let's have Craig smirk and destroy everyone around him, that's fun, isn't he so cool? Listen to that funny dialogue. He's a dream. And I used to have to hear, "This is how Craig acts, this is the real Craig, not that wimpy Scott Bryce version." At least, when Dusty and Paul came back and acted like stupid thugs and self-pitying misogynist creeps, the "this is the real them" argument began to peter out. They destroyed Craig, who was one of my favorite characters, and he's never really been the same. I'm sure Hogan did help some characters. I liked his writing for Emily, at least initially. But I just have too many bad memories. I think if I hadn't read the press about him it might have helped. When I hear hype, I automatically recoil, unless the person has done enough to earn the hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members classicmoment Posted November 19, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 19, 2009 I don't know why but I always thought this screamed Jer I don't know I never minded this much. Chelsea's mom was hot. I always hated this notion that supercouple's had this near perfect love. I think love on soaps should reflect the complexities of real life compledom. Nick was young and very inexperienced, he made a honest mistake and this mistake was not out of character for Billie as I always drew the likeabilities between Billie and Kate who I always felt would do the same thing. The story may have spoiled chick for many, but I always thought (if they hadn't made other mistakes with the Nick Fallon character) Chelsea and Nick's relationship is something they could have explored for a while as an imperfect love story. Days worked the mother/ lover/ daughter triangle thing before. I also like that this was the strategy used to "fix" Hope and Chelsea's relationship, the storytelling was very rough around the edges but I got the idea. These two were written in a misogynist way I agree, but somehow someway I never felt forced to root for Lumi or Shelle. I always felt (maybe I was wrong) that Hogan knew the charmm and skill both these actors carried and while they were both written arrogantly, I was always more drawn to the energy between them and the two sisters Sami and Belle rather than the latter. I so wanted them to try Chloe and Shawn. Lucas was never the bit of interest to me, the only thing interesting about him to me was always his relationship with his mother Kate. He was all wrong for SAMI IMO, I always sensed a Napolean complex within the character. I didn't like the way the gloved hand story turned out but I did like the Celeste twist, I just wished they had made Sami smarter she became too soft there. The stunts were always the least of DOOL's problem imo so I didn't mind that much. Stefano needed to be humanized that was gonna be challenging for any writer. Is Stefano being written any differently now? The dialogue was the change made in Script writers, but I'm not sure I do believe Sheffer contributed to the script of one or two epis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SouthOfSoap Posted November 19, 2009 Members Share Posted November 19, 2009 That really hits the nail on the head. I kind of think the way Sheffer comes up with stories is by envisaging a really good scene as the kernel, and then builds the story around it. Thats why his stories always ended badly - I'm at pains to think of a story that had a decent denoument whilst at DAYS. It also could explain his blatant disregard for history, extravagence with retconning and ignoring character logic - his loyalty is to the scene, not the storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AS THE WORLD TURNS Posted November 19, 2009 Members Share Posted November 19, 2009 I want to who was the best head writer for these 3 soaps. Who was the best head writer for ATWT. Who was the best head writer for DAYS. Who was the best head writer for Y&R. I want to know cause I didn't watch ATWT until the early 2000's, DAYS until this year mostly, and Y&R early 2000's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted November 19, 2009 Members Share Posted November 19, 2009 1. Douglas Marland. 2. Bill Bell. 3. Bill Bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bellcurve Posted November 19, 2009 Members Share Posted November 19, 2009 Where's brimike, Hogan's biggest defender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AS THE WORLD TURNS Posted November 19, 2009 Members Share Posted November 19, 2009 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members classicmoment Posted November 19, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 19, 2009 Hmm, u could very well be right on this. Food for thought... I must say I did enjoy scenes not so much as whole stories and character logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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