2 hours ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

I'll respectfully disagree with that statement.  I think All My Children did a wonderful job of using a semi-permanent secondary location in the early 1980s, when Erica was living in New York City.  Erica was living there and she associated with people there, a few of whom became important to the story. Plus others from Pine Valley also ended up in Manhattan for extended stays (although none nearly as long as Erica).  If I recall, Jessie and Jenny were there for a couple of months, and others visited from time to time. They built wonderful sets for Erica, and I thought the entire experiment was very refreshing and 100 percent successful.  I don't remember how long Erica lived in NYC, but I'd guess many two-years???   I really think it worked.   

I will agree that GL's attempt at a second location was far less successful, but that may have had more to do with the plot -- a fantasy prince/princesses romance that was fairly unbelievable in the first place.  I don't think any fans of GL were wishing for that type of fantasy garbage. And I feel the audience rejected the plot as much as they rejected the second location.  

GL and AMC are the only two soaps I can remember that used a semi-permanent second location.  Were there other soaps that also did this?  Does anyone remember if any radio soaps tried this?  

Another World did what at the time I considered to be a copycat of AMC. During the summer some of the younger people left Bay City & went to New York.

Much later, Rachel left Bay City & moved to New York. A beautician there became important to story back home as well as in the city. Carl followed Rachel to NY. It was there & then that they did the Poet's Walk & basically their romance began there during the Christmas season. The beautician was Loretta. 

This is the description of the episode of GL archived at The University Of Indiana.

Charlotte Waring and Kit Vested fight for the affection of Joe Werner.

A episode of GL...Is all the description states.

On 8/29/2024 at 7:36 AM, Mona Kane Croft said:

I think she was probably trying to extend her actors' health insurance until she was old enough to go on Medicare.  Just like everyone else in the US, when she became 65 years of age, she would have been eligible for Medicare and would no longer have needed private health insurance.  All of this is just speculation on my part, but I've heard of other actors doing the same thing.   I believe to remain on actors' health insurance, and individual is required to work as an actor at least one time during a particular length of time -- perhaps at least one job every 5-years.  Or maybe 4-years.  It might even be 10-years. But if they do not have a paid acting job within that interval, they lose that health insurance.    

Thank you. I’ve never understood why Beverlee McKinsey took the job on GH for insurance purposes and never worked again. 

Jane Elliot returned to GH to reup her benefits. The only thing is that she stayed. But, that was not the original plan. 

39 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Jane Elliot returned to GH to reup her benefits. The only thing is that she stayed. But, that was not the original plan. 

That's strange, because isn't Jane Elliot older than 65 now?  

1 hour ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

That's strange, because isn't Jane Elliot older than 65 now?  

I didn't know but I looked it up. Born in 1947, so gosh yes. Maybe the union benefits are like Medicare Plus. I honestly have no idea. It's not anything I've ever been curious about. 

1 hour ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I didn't know but I looked it up. Born in 1947, so gosh yes. Maybe the union benefits are like Medicare Plus. I honestly have no idea. It's not anything I've ever been curious about. 

Thanks. You may be right about union benefits being like Medicare Plus. So that would be an incentive to return even after 65 years of age.  But at some point, actors do get to retire without returning to work.  And surely they don't lose benefits at that point.  I'm sure it's a complicated situation, just like health insurance for anyone in the US.   

21 hours ago, kalbir said:

@P.J. I think this was brought up before, but it seems as though Pamela Long diminished Vanessa in favor of Reva and Alexandra.

I know we did. But having watched more of '84 now, I'm not sure Long knew what to do with anyone other than Reva. The Spaulding business angle practically disappears once Alan leaves, and while Alex spins some business plots, they're thin and boil down to her obsession with Lujack. 

On one level, it was consistent for Vanessa to throw herself into a new project (or romance). But at some point, Vanessa should've gotten as mad as hell at Alexandra (for blackmailing Henry into selling some/all of his Spaulding stock) and plotted revenge.

Long is so under-interested in Vanessa, I'm surprised she wrote her back in as quickly as she did in '89, and then threw her back into the Spaulding realm. 

14 hours ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

GL and AMC are the only two soaps I can remember that used a semi-permanent second location.  Were there other soaps that also did this?  Does anyone remember if any radio soaps tried this?  

ATWT used Montega off and on throughout Marland's tenure, although not nearly to the extent of GL's San Cristobel. I'm blanking on any other soap really doing more than an extended summer story, but even those got tedious at some point.

11 hours ago, SoapDope said:

This is the description of the episode of GL archived at The University Of Indiana.

Charlotte Waring and Kit Vested fight for the affection of Joe Werner.

A episode of GL...Is all the description states.

I don't think anything of Kit or Charlotte is available to us, so I hope this appears someday. 

These are Guiding Light episodes from 1953. Each of them says "created by Irna Phillips" as part of its title. Vintage, rare.

https://rumble.com/v5d2cbh-the-guiding-light-1-25-1953.html

https://rumble.com/v5d2cmd-the-guiding-light-1-27-1953.html

https://rumble.com/v5d2cua-the-guiding-light-1-24-1953.html

https://rumble.com/v5d2d2l-the-guiding-light-3-25-1953.html

I'm never sure how many radio episodes of Guiding Light are around. I see that the Library of Congress has a number of 1942-1946 episodes we can't listen to, and a number of early-mid '50s episodes are on Youtube, as is July 15, 1940.

This collection of radio soaps has an episode from June 10, 1940. I can't remember if this one had already been around or not.

Radio Soap Operas - From Transcription Discs & Second Generation Reels : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Edited August 31, 20241 yr by DRW50

10 hours ago, P.J. said:

I know we did. But having watched more of '84 now, I'm not sure Long knew what to do with anyone other than Reva. The Spaulding business angle practically disappears once Alan leaves, and while Alex spins some business plots, they're thin and boil down to her obsession with Lujack. 

On one level, it was consistent for Vanessa to throw herself into a new project (or romance). But at some point, Vanessa should've gotten as mad as hell at Alexandra (for blackmailing Henry into selling some/all of his Spaulding stock) and plotted revenge.

Long is so under-interested in Vanessa, I'm surprised she wrote her back in as quickly as she did in '89, and then threw her back into the Spaulding realm. 

All good points. Thanks @P.J.

just out of curiosity, what did Bill Bauer do for a living? And is Bert some kind of nurse? In the late 70's she's always at the hospital.

In the 60's I believe Bill worked in advertising.

By the 70's Bert was working as a hospital volunteer - patient advocate etc

12 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I don't think anything of Kit or Charlotte is available to us, so I hope this appears someday. 

I noticed one episode is dated August 1973. I read somewhere that is the same month Kit poisoned Charlotte. Maybe this is the episode where Kit kills her.