10 hours ago, DRW50 said:

'm reminded of when Marland had another version of this type of character on ATWT with Tad Channing, where I feel once again they miscast the part when they brought in Larry Pine.

The original Tad Channing was hot if I remember..I never knew why they put Larry Pine in as you could see the first one getting away with manipulating women...Iva looked even more of a sad sack then usual.

But Marland (besides his farm boys) never really cast for looks or charima...(anyone who would replace Greg Marx with Scott Holmes does not care about that..)

Oh - and how could I forget about Robert Newman? He's another who I was familiar with as a teen/young adult, didn't find him attractive, but now I really do. Not so much 80s Robert, but definitely 90s/00s Robert haha.

18 minutes ago, MLH said:

It mentions the screenplay he wrote with his wife called "Allison" (he mentioned that screenplay in the 1983 Soap Opera Digest interview). It also mentioned he was 'featured' a movie called Surprises that was to come out that summer. However, I can't find anything.  Does featured mean a small part or what? How does one find what happened to that movie?

Feature role usually means a supporting role. 

Sounds like this was a low-budget film. I don't see it listed on his IMDB page. This probably means it never found a distributor and never got any kind of release. Or possibly it went straight to video. You might have found it at Blockbuster back in the day, but the fate of those was often a quick trip from the bargain bin to landfill. ☹️

I worked for film distribution companies during the 80s and 90s. There was a pretty healthy independent film scene back then, but getting movies made was still very difficult. It was even more difficult to get a distribution deal, especially without stars or big-name directors.

 

For any historians of the show that might be in here that would care about this topic, it appears that the first Bauer BBQ was in 1957. Bill and Bert had just bought a new house (they had been living in the Brandons old house) and so Bert hosted a gathering for the first time at her house. She was excited because she felt it was the first time she could have a 4th of July gathering at her house because now they were in a bigger house. It was called a picnic, not a BBQ. No Bauer burgers. Just fried chicken. Since the cast was small, it wasn't like latter BBQs where the entire town seemed to be there. But it was interesting because Mike is about to turn 16 and Robin is about to turn 13 and they have their first talk together (on screen) where they start to get to know each other better. You can see that it was the genesis of the Mike/Robin romance as well as the genesis of the Bauer BBQ. Robin loves being at the Bauers, is attached to Meta and hates her mother Kathy. So, Robin doesn't want to leave. This probably was the impetus for her falling in love with Mike. I don't think the Bauer 4th of July became an annual tradition after this, but this would have been the FIRST. The Bauers never really did anything special for the day before this year and the day was usually just commemorated by a sermon before the Bauers entered the story. So, for anybody wondering what year the first Bauer BBQ was, I'd say 1957. From what I can tell, however, it didn't become such a big event until 1984.

1 hour ago, DeeVee said:

Feature role usually means a supporting role. 

Sounds like this was a low-budget film. I don't see it listed on his IMDB page. This probably means it never found a distributor and never got any kind of release. Or possibly it went straight to video. You might have found it at Blockbuster back in the day, but the fate of those was often a quick trip from the bargain bin to landfill. ☹️

I worked for film distribution companies during the 80s and 90s. There was a pretty healthy independent film scene back then, but getting movies made was still very difficult. It was even more difficult to get a distribution deal, especially without stars or big-name directors.

 

Thank you for taking the time to answer. I thought all movies in post production could be found on IMDB, but I guess you have to have a person take the time and do so.  I didn't even see anything mentioning that he was the star of that play "D" in the first place. 

The screenplay for "Allison seemed like a really interesting story.  Surprises me what makes it to screen like "You Light Up My Life" vs the "Allison" one. 

Edited July 30Jul 30 by MLH

1 hour ago, Reverend Ruthledge said:

For any historians of the show that might be in here that would care about this topic, it appears that the first Bauer BBQ was in 1957.

Great history, thanks! This works in with the earlier posted scene of the dull Bauer BBQ where Ed says, "I grew up on it" and the last one where Rick says, "Grandma started this."  I wish they would have done an Oktoberfest with an odd to their German heritage.

 

 

1 hour ago, Mitch64 said:

Great history, thanks! This works in with the earlier posted scene of the dull Bauer BBQ where Ed says, "I grew up on it" and the last one where Rick says, "Grandma started this."  I wish they would have done an Oktoberfest with an odd to their German heritage.

 

 

Yes. Thank you @Reverend Ruthledge for the history of the, IMO,  always boring Bauer BBQ. Or was there ever an interesting one?

I thought the Memorial Day one with Buzz was done better. 

Edited July 30Jul 30 by MLH

30 minutes ago, MLH said:

Yes. Thank you @Reverend Ruthledge for the history of the, IMO,  always boring Bauer BBQ. Or was there ever an interesting one?

Ha..Long wrote some interesting ones in the early part of her stint, but she was good at community events. I liked the 95 one where Annie came drunk (and again, oddly no one noticed her even though she had to be all over the papers just before this) and flirted with Phillip (which is where that should have gone) and annoyed Reva by scaring those annoying brats she helped raise.

I also do like the last one that had a bittersweet tone to it, and actually looked like a party in someone's yard. There was one of the "Ed-less years" where Rick and Abby took time out of the party to screw...obviously no writer ever threw a big family party as that is the LAST thing on your mind when you have 50 people in your house.

9 hours ago, vetsoapfan said:

Did you have any non-TGL celebrity crushes when you were in high school?

I did, but that's neither here nor there for this thread

2 hours ago, MLH said:

I thought the Memorial Day one with Buzz was done better. 

It thought that was the BBQ..2001 when Harley and Frank and the first responders came and Buzz made a speach. I thought that was a great one and for once, the Coopers and Buzz did not bug me.

28 minutes ago, Mitch64 said:

It thought that was the BBQ..2001 when Harley and Frank and the first responders came and Buzz made a speach. I thought that was a great one and for once, the Coopers and Buzz did not bug me.

I haven't watched anything beyond 1998.  They would do Memorial Day ones too.  

4 hours ago, Reverend Ruthledge said:

For any historians of the show that might be in here that would care about this topic, it appears that the first Bauer BBQ was in 1957. Bill and Bert had just bought a new house (they had been living in the Brandons old house) and so Bert hosted a gathering for the first time at her house. She was excited because she felt it was the first time she could have a 4th of July gathering at her house because now they were in a bigger house. It was called a picnic, not a BBQ. No Bauer burgers. Just fried chicken. Since the cast was small, it wasn't like latter BBQs where the entire town seemed to be there. But it was interesting because Mike is about to turn 16 and Robin is about to turn 13 and they have their first talk together (on screen) where they start to get to know each other better. You can see that it was the genesis of the Mike/Robin romance as well as the genesis of the Bauer BBQ. Robin loves being at the Bauers, is attached to Meta and hates her mother Kathy. So, Robin doesn't want to leave. This probably was the impetus for her falling in love with Mike. I don't think the Bauer 4th of July became an annual tradition after this, but this would have been the FIRST. The Bauers never really did anything special for the day before this year and the day was usually just commemorated by a sermon before the Bauers entered the story. So, for anybody wondering what year the first Bauer BBQ was, I'd say 1957. From what I can tell, however, it didn't become such a big event until 1984.

Thanks for sharing. I didn't realize until I saw that Secret Storm episode put up earlier this year that 4th of July celebrations were already airing on soaps at this time. I would love to see Papa Bauer's involvement, being a first-generation immigrant. 

A shame the show didn't keep Robin around to possibly be paired with Mike later on.

I wish I could see those last days of Kathy too. Such a sad, sad life she had. 

35 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I wish I could see those last days of Kathy too. Such a sad, sad life she had. 

Yes, but the majority of her problems were self-inflicted. 

9 hours ago, alwaysAMC said:

Oh - and how could I forget about Robert Newman? He's another who I was familiar with as a teen/young adult, didn't find him attractive, but now I really do. Not so much 80s Robert, but definitely 90s/00s Robert haha.

Honestly, I can rarely recall a beard making that much difference in looks. Beardless Josh? Nope. Bearded Josh---muy bueno. (although honestly, RN's just not my type.)

Just watched August 18, 1989 episode on Springfield Story after Blake and Phillip got married and threw a party.  Holly wasn't invited but shows up...just before Roger and Sonni come.  Talk about soap goodness!  LOL

It was interesting, because before the party Sonni was avoiding Roger after talking to Holly and they have a good conversation about it when he went find her at Cedars.  It seems like the writers did a great job with balancing the backstory of Roger and Holly.  

This was the beginning of the Beth Is Alive story that also showed that Roger was smart.  Unlike how they wrote Roger in 1994 til the end. I liked how he cut the painting and brought it back to Harley's store to get information about the guy who brought it there. 

Edited July 31Jul 31 by MLH