Members Chris B Posted August 8, 2009 Members Share Posted August 8, 2009 Okay there was a spoiler on Soap Central that says...Roxanne catches Tyra and Devon having sex which upsets Neil...okay, first of all when do they plan on developing this story? Will it be an upcoming story of the week? We still have seen no development in the Roxanne character or her relationship with Devon. Any relationship between Tyra and Devon has been off screen. Hell all these people have been off screen! And with Kristoff being given a six week vacation by Y&R, they had no intention in developing this story past this awful plot twist! How can people still defend these writers? Not only are the stories bad, but the awful pacing is getting worse and worse. It's like they tell a different story each week with months of story crammed into one week.No fallout, no character development, just shock twist shock move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ian Posted August 8, 2009 Members Share Posted August 8, 2009 Is Tyra not his aunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MoTheGreat Posted August 8, 2009 Members Share Posted August 8, 2009 I still can't believe Devon going to have sex. I wonder if Roxanne going yo yell, "I thought you was gay all this time that's why I didn't pressure you". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted August 8, 2009 Members Share Posted August 8, 2009 This show is starting to feel like a very, very bad version of B&B in an hour long format. These writers don't learn from this mistakes, Devon having fantasies about Tyra was a FLOP from the beginning, hell Tyra as a character was a flop from the beginning. To act on these twisted fantasies, on a woman he believed was his aunt for most of his life mind you, is just vile and disgusting. Oh, I have no doubt it will be played as a story of the week and then dropped for a month before being picked up for two days in the other month. The black characters on this show aren't worth it to the idiots in charge. The back-burner these characters and could care less about developing them, and this is the best they could come up for them? This is shameful and disgusting. I told you all that Maria Arena Bell, Hogan Sheffer, and Scott Hamner were only going to get worse from now on. They don't learn from their mistakes and everything they seem to do is about providing "shock" and "awe" to this show. It's damaging the show's characters and its overall reputation. These writers, all of them, need to be fired. There is no way to defend this crap and such bad storytelling. But I'm sure some will try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dm. Posted August 8, 2009 Members Share Posted August 8, 2009 He thought she was his aunt for 20 years and the minute he finds out she isn't, he wants to f*** her? That Brad Bell for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted August 8, 2009 Members Share Posted August 8, 2009 They aren't just giving stories as an afterthought, they're giving stupid, borderline offensive stories? Where Rauch goes, disinterest or outright hostility towards black characters goes, and Sheffer also enjoyed putting black characters in offensive stories at ATWT, but isn't the lover of "classic" Y&R MAB supposed to understand what black characters have brought to Y&R for 20 years now? Why is the show actively working to alienate one of their most loyal fanbases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JimTolkien Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 CBS gave this show a 2-year renewal instead of a 5-year one for a reason and IMO it wasn't all about the budget as they claimed LMAO!!!! The show has been replaced by "pod" writers masquerading as writers!!! They better get it in gear.....AND quickly. Whatever distinctive quality that Y&R has always had has been shot to hell, and it has gotten worse after LML, and it is NEVER COMING BACK!! I don't fault KSJ for speaking out..but maybe they are trying to alienate the black viewers for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BadZoe Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 Now I'm convinced that the Bell's all want to screw each other and the only thing that is keeping them from doing it is blood ties. EWWWW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B Posted August 9, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 It IS amazing that this racism has continued for so long. Y&R is the only soap where you can truly say black people played a MAJOR part for almost 30 years. In the 80s you had Amy, Jazz, Tyrone, Mamie and in the 90s they added Olivia, Nathan, Dru, Neil, Lily, etc. and it's a legacy and a huge audience that's been widely reported. Every writer before this team has recognized the important of minorities with Y&R. LML was a mess, but i love that she also gave us an Asian character in Ji Min. Eric Steinberg showed that you don't have to be a white male to be a hunk. Strong writing could've made him one of daytimes biggest stars! Now we have nothing. No diversity whatsoever and I include gay representation in that. It's all misogyny all the time. Everything else takes a back seat. I don't understand how this writing team has been allowed to neglect their minority characters. This is a Y&R first. People thought Victoria Rowell wouldn't return due to her actions, but it's now clear she won't return because she's black. That's sad and I'm glad she won't return. Drucilla is one of Y&R's premiere characters and I'd hate to see her getting screentime similar to Neil, Devon and Tyra. It would be a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members detroitpiston Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 This show is disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 Just when you thought it couldn't get worse,another out of nowhere story that will go nowhere,apart from fill in a few days. MAB needs to be locked in a room and made to watch her father in laws shows from the 80's and 90's to get a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MoTheGreat Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 I guess I should start saying how low can Y&R go in the ratings. I hope the few blacks that watch stop watching. Since they don't care. I wonder why they not paying attention to the other shows that doesn't care about their black viewers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members loveshery&r Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 I agree it seems MAB&Co. aren't invested in their African American characters other than Lily but I will also add this regime is not invested or interested in a good portion of their cast, black or white. I hope people of all races stop watching this once great but now pitiful excuse of a soap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 Hogan has little time for black characters (he wrote for a few at ATWT, but completely destroyed their characters and gave them degrading storylines), and Rauch also doesn't. I can believe that MAB is equally uninterested in all races and sexualities but I do think it's interesting that this is the third soap Rauch has gone to where blacks become almost completely irrelevant. The whole show is now in a very 1950 mindest. Everything is uberconservative and presented in the starkest, most dark ways, especially if you are not a white alpha male. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faulkner Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 This show is indefensible. I really want to know how MAB et al rationalize the decisions they've been making over the past few months. The destruction of Y&R almost seems deliberate. If not, the people running this show are simply incompetent. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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