Members cara mia Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 Cashton, how can you not blame the writers somewhat for MTS? Seriously, did we need Paris? Do we need Tyra, Ana, Mac and so many other characters? Did Sony force MAB to not write a decent story for Nikki? I highly doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cashton Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 the glass is either overflowing or broken in pieces isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MTSRocks Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 You're persistent, LoL. The show is uneven. I only sporadically watch other soaps, but Y&R is the one I tune in for. MAB might have not been an overall success, but man she's trying. She undid Katherine/Jill as mother/daughter. She brought back Tricia Cast. Alongside Julianna McCarthy, Marla Adams... She put Jill and Katherine back on the front burner, and gave Cooper a love story. She's respected the history of Bill Bell for the most part. She had Gloria exposed for the tainted cream. She brought back Billy, gave Jabot back to the Abbotts. She's trying to fix the mistake of Cane. She's putting an end to Nick/Phyllis, while trying to please the Nick/Sharon fans. What baffles me is that most people have been BEGGING for these things to happen, and yet she's still being raked over the coals for trying to restore some dignity to the show, post LML. Granted not everything she's done was a success, and the way she did things weren't the best, but MAB shouldn't lose her title yet. Paris or no Paris the situation wouldn't be much different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 At this point I am down to two soaps...ATWT and Y&R. My soap days will be gone probably in about 2 years at this rate. I knew you would mention the huff and puffing of Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 Exactly. MTS's contract wasn't up a year ago, so it doesn't explain why Nikki has been backburned for close to a year and why her relationship with Paul has happened OFF-SCREEN for most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MTSRocks Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 No. Helll no. They both would be AWFUL re-casts. I can't see Victor Newman being attracted to Reva Shayne Lewis, or Deidre Hall being anywhere as effective as she was decades ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 if MTS doesnt wanna take a cut then let her walk. The show will go on without her. Stars need to realize they work in a dying genre, with slashed budgets, a tenth of the viewers, and those huge raises they got in the 80's and 90's need to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 Wow! I actually agree with you. I guess miracles do happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cashton Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 My lovely cara mia, I can't blame the writers if an actor decides to leave the show. Paris gave Y&R huge tax breaks and concessions to shoot there. the writers write for who's securely set in the show. I blame MAB for not forcasting this to the press and giving everyone reason to think that they were immune to all the pay cut maddness that is creeping up on every show in porimetime and daytime. Susan Lucci deserves much praise for taking a 70% paycut. I want them to write a huge Nikki story, but if she's not going to be there, how can they? Did you watch GL when Bev left them flying high and dry? It was messy and sloppy. They seem to have planned all sorts of beats for Paul/Nikki/Victor and the rest but they can't cause she's in the midst of tense contract negotioans. Like I said, I firmly beleive if it was up to the writers they'd pay MTS whatever she wanted and then some, and have her onscreen everyday - but we're in a new economic reality. We don't know what's going on, just bits and pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MTSRocks Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 I love Nikki/MTS, but I don't think she was backburner per se. She did some wonderful work in the Katherine arc, and some nice scenes with Victor. From 2004-2007 Melody Thomas Scott has practically anchored this show at times, as well as being prominently featured. If there is one thing I credit Jack Smith for is reviving the character of Nikki Newman. I didn't mind seeing her less, however the alternatives that we got was the bigger crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members classicmoment Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 Honestly this sounds strategic I wonder if TPTB is using the Drake and Deidre situation as an anchor to position these actors and actresses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 This is a multi-causal problem. Mostly it is a dismal economy matched with hugely shrinking viewership across the board. We all understand there need to be cuts. Some of us would pare the show down to 5 cast members (including MTS) before we have 30 newbies and no MTS. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MTSRocks Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 BTW isn't it almost time for one of Victor's yearly trips? I love when EB goes on vacation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 Total agreement. Let me try an analogy. I'm a male in my 40s...if I go to the doctor, I'm gonna have a prostate exam. I don't have to like it...it's gonna happen. But the doctor can either go gently into that good night, or he can force so hard I'm seeing China. I'd rather have the gentle. So, relating that to MTS... It sounds like this pay-cut thing is being handled with ham-handedness and disrespect. That makes it even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members detroitpiston Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 ICAM! And cara mia, I don't think AMC is at all unwatchable. It's actually one of the better shows right now IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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